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Question for non-US citizens who have recently entered the US

Jan 19th, 2007, 07:53 AM
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What are 'red states'?
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Jan 19th, 2007, 08:05 AM
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I thought it was quite funny back in the 80's when the U.S. first started its visa waiver program with such extreme caution -- first the UK, then France and Germany, then some other EU countries -- they really and truly believed that everybody outside the U.S. has only one purpose in life -- to immigrate illegally to the U.S. When it didn't happen, I'm not sure if they were delighted or disappointed.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 09:00 AM
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Wow, I'm learning some really interesting stuff on this thread.

BackFrom, a red state is one that typically goes to the Republicans, hence it's a very conservative state. A blue state goes to the Democrats so it's more liberal. If a state isn't decidedly red or blue, it's called a swing state.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 09:01 AM
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willit, I'm European and I've seen enough anti-americanism that I doubt whoever first spread that rumor did it innocently. that said, go take a hike.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 09:31 AM
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These sorts of things are not new. Years ago the US used to ask if you had any intention of overthrowing the US constitution by force, or something similar, and I'm sure Peter Ustinov used to claim he'd put "Sole purpose of visit" and still got in.

Nor are they confined to the US. The security clearance form on a job I applied for in the UK seriously offered a whole series of Yes/No questions to test out whether I'd ever associated with Nazis, Communists, terrorists or whatever, when a blanket declaration would have made more sense.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 09:42 AM
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Eric, thank you for your kind advice about my next vacation. I may well look to do a hiking tour.

As previously posted, the immigration form was previously worded as "Is it your intention to overthrow the government of the United States?"

It does not take much for this to become twisted in popular mythology to become "Are you coming to the US in order to kill the president?"

So I believe your comment about it probably being malicious is wrong. You are obviously welcome to believe as you do.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 10:36 AM
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Eric and willit, there is definitely an abundance of anti-americanism in this world. It is not directed at Americans as individuals, it is based on American policy, and the American people are labeled for it. As Canadians we hear that we are a big, lazy country when it comes to foreign policy, I have heard that French people are rude, but I won't make that judgement until I have met a lot of them. Every country has it's 'isms', generally they aren't true, so let's not fight about it

There is no need to tell someone to 'go take a hike' this forum is for people to get travel advice, and share experiences.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 11:15 AM
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chrispet - I am not denying there is such a thing as anti Americanism, I just don't see any in the OP's story. That was the reason for the follow up post giving my reasons why I think the "misunderstanding" may have occurred.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 04:44 PM
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My friend is definitely not anti-American, he truly enjoys being in this country. The more I think about it, I now believe he misinterpreted the question about overthrowing the American government.

Thanks everyone, this has been interesting and informative. That's why I love this board.
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Jan 19th, 2007, 04:48 PM
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He's Dutch. He was kidding.

Jules
(Who counts the Dutch among "her people.")
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Jan 19th, 2007, 05:01 PM
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sorry to ruin the party but these kinds of questions are asked on forms all over the world. for example, here in the UK, some forms (eg immigration/naturalisation) ask if you are a terrorist, fund terrorism, have been involved in war crimes, etc.

anybody who has filled out a few visa, etc forms around the world will have experienced these kinds of questions. it's strange to see it portrayed as an american thing.

but as eric says....
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Jan 19th, 2007, 06:35 PM
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There are questions on immigration forms that seem silly. After all who is going to admit to being a terrorist or a Nazi? What can happen is that the person who fibs on the form can eventually be deported for not being truthful on entry to the country.
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Jan 20th, 2007, 01:25 AM
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Exactly. That's why a blanket declaration would do: something along the lines of "I understand that [whatever dubious history you want] disqualifies me from admission to [wherever] and if discovered can lead to deportation without compensation or other legal penalties." Or whatever.
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Jan 20th, 2007, 08:29 AM
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And whenever the Pope visits the U.S. and answers, "yes, I was in the Hitler youth," I wonder how long he will spend in the airport interrogation room.
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Jan 20th, 2007, 08:50 AM
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The late Noel Coward had to fill in one of those forms.

To "Do you intend to destroy the United States government by force"?
He wrote
"Sole purpose of visit".

Today, he'd be sent straight to Guantanamo Bay
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Jan 21st, 2007, 05:36 AM
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I cannot confirm the report, but did hear, that a couple questions now asked are as follows...you may want to prepare answers early:

Are you packing weapons of mass destruction or are you just happy to see me? >-)

If you aren't packing them, any idea where others may be hiding them?

Doesn't hurt to ask! 8-)
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Jan 24th, 2007, 05:35 AM
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Is Guantanamo Bay a nice vacation spot?
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