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Europhile7 Nov 4th, 2007 06:04 PM

Question about Italian Train Reservation
Alright, I am going to Italy in about a month. I am going to buy the Eurail pass that covers Italy. But I know in Italy, you mostly have to reserve your seats too when traveling. However, I have one question. I am going to Lake Como, and I will have to take the train from Milan to Como, which is like a 30 minute train ride. Do I still need to reserve this? I mean it is a 30 minute ride. Is it an absoulute requirement to get on the train, or could I just stand up for 30 minutes. Any info would be helpful

ellenem Nov 4th, 2007 07:05 PM

Have you verified that you need a pass? What trips will you be making?

Unless you will be traveling the length of the country quite a few times, a pass may not be cheaper that buying individual tickets. Try your itinerary at

Musicteacher Nov 4th, 2007 07:12 PM

Certain faster trains, such as the Eurostar and Cisalpino, require reservations. These are indicated in the online schedule. You can get the reservations most easily at a train station after you get to Italy.

From Milan to Como, you could always take one of the many non-reserved trains if you don't need to go on one of the fastest.

TimS Nov 4th, 2007 07:17 PM

It's not the length of the ride but the type of train that determines whether or not you need a reservation. EuroStar Italia trains and certain other fast trains require reservations while reservations aren't even possible on regional trains.

If you have a railpass, a seat reservation will cost 3-4 euros on most trains but 15 euros on EuroStar Italia trains. If you buy point-to-point tickets (usually the cheapest way to ride the rails in Italy), the reservation is included in the price of the ticket. If seats are available, Amica fares (20% discount) are sold up to the day before departure.

kybourbon Nov 4th, 2007 07:18 PM

It's usually not cost effective to buy a rail pass for Italy.

There are AV, ES, ICplus trains (faster trains) and the tickets will include the seat reservation (when purchased from Trenitalia). R, IR, D trains (slower) don't sell reserved seats. Some routes only R trains are available so you can't reserve a seat at all.

Europhile7 Nov 4th, 2007 07:41 PM

Well, I am traveling in 4 other countries, so that is why I am buying a pass. Point to point tickets are out of the question. Thanks for the info.

Europhile7 Nov 5th, 2007 08:30 AM


TimS Nov 5th, 2007 09:00 AM

It all depends upon your itinerary, but a combination of a railpass for longer rides and point-to-point tickets for shorter ones may be cheaper than a railpass alone. If you list your itinerary here, some Fodorites may be able to give you specific suggestions.

See the railpasses sections at and

J62 Nov 5th, 2007 09:02 AM

TimS gave you all the info you need.

kybourbon Nov 5th, 2007 07:29 PM

Try entering your itinerary at and click only if a pass saves me money.

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