Quad-band GSM phone for $15 (sort of)

Jul 19th, 2007, 06:21 AM
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You need to buy an unlocked quad band phone-I'd say, preferably Motorola,-but you have to make sure it doesn't say Motorola Sprint or Samsung AT & T or some other service provider quad band phone, because those are locked. It has to be manufacturer only quad-band.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 06:23 AM
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sandi - "Unlocked quad band GSM" will give you about 200.

"Unlocked tri band GSM" will give you also about 200. Make sure the frequencies include 900 and 1800. Some won't have 850. If you're planning to use AT&T Wireless here AND abroad, you need quad band.

"Unlocked dual band GSM" or "unlocked 900 1800 GSM" will also give you some. Can't use it here in the US with those.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 06:25 AM
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Excellent advise. Thank you. With issues I had in Rome in January I vowed to never travel again without a cell phone.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 06:27 AM
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I just looked, and saw a nice Motorola new V3 quad band Gold Razr phone at the buy it now price of 99.98. What you will get is a European plug phone, and they will include the US adapter (that's what I have).
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Jul 19th, 2007, 06:30 AM
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I wouldn't even bother with a tri-band-there are areas around the world where you can't use tri-band-if you're going to buy a cell phone, I say, make it quad-band or nothing, because quad-band will allow you to use it whereever in the world you happen to be-from Laos to England.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 06:44 AM
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"There's no way in hell that a pay as you go plan would allow international roaming-that doesn't even make sense, because the company would lose money instantly on such a deal..."

Um, they've got your money up front. You're being charged 99¢ per minute every time you hit SEND. I don't see where the company loses money.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 06:50 AM
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Sandi. I just recently purchased a quad band phone on Ebay for $35.

It was used, so it was a leap of faith. I searched GSM phone.

It is a unlocked, quad band and the description said something like can be used all over the world. I am trying to remember if it said unlocked and I think maybe it did.

Make sure like rkkwan says that it is not linked to any of our companies.

I received the phone and I happen to have a universal SIM which I inserted and dialed my home number and it rang. So I know the phone will work. I didn't complete the call.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 06:54 AM
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No they DON'T have your money up front. Pay as you go is not as profitable by far to a company as a one or two year typical contractual plan-you think they're going to give you pay as you go AND allow international roaming, which costs them a lot of money? Don't THINK so.

Any way, I just checked on ebay again-I was wrong-that Gold Razr for 99.99 is logoed AT & T. However, I DID see what I was suggesting: a black V3 Razr, FACTORY unlocked quadband (those are the keywords) for $199.99. As the site states, these phones do not lose their value, because you can use them anywhere, without having to mess up the software by getting a branded quad-band, and then having to get a special code to "unlock" it. No thanks.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 07:56 AM
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I recently just got back from Italy and when I went I got a phone from onesimcard.com. I think the price is about the same as people are talking about here ($100 for a phone+SIM card) and calling is 69 cents a minute, definitely better than 99/minute. You can also rent a phone there for a little less.

I think this is probably a safer option than buying one off ebay, hoping it works, then buying a SIM card there and hoping it works. Buying it from these guys I know it's going to work, and their customer support was really nice.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 08:01 AM
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Just a point...

Not everything sold on ebay is second hand...there are some very good merchants there from whom I have gotten great prices on gsm phones and have never had any difficulty with anything I've bought there.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 08:07 AM
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Pre-paid international roaming works for many international carriers. Nothing special about them. They just "eat up" your prepaid amount quickly. Yes, they'll cost a lot more, sure, but it's up to the user whether to use it or not.

I don't know why T-Mobile USA don't allow it. But come to think of it, they don't even allow domestic roaming onto other GSM network where there's no T-Mobile's own. So, coverage of T-Mobile Prepaid in the US is not as good as coverage of T-Mobile Post-paid in the US.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 08:21 AM
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No they DON'T have your money up front. Of course they do. That's why it's called a PREPAID plan.

Pay as you go is not as profitable by far to a company as a one or two year typical contractual plan Why would they do it if it didn't make money?

-you think they're going to give you pay as you go AND allow international roaming, which costs them a lot of money? Why would IR cost the company any more for PAYG as for prepaid? They would charge 99¢ for either. (And where T-Mobile is the European carrier, they don't have to share the 99¢ with anyone.)

Don't THINK so. Your mere opinion isn't persuasive. Facts would be.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 08:21 AM
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It is nonsense that international roaming is expensive for the carriers...it is a big money maker at our expense.

In theory, international roaming includes the payment your home company has to make to its roaming partner for use of its network.

Well let's take an example. I have a T Mobile USA plan which allows their World Class roaming at 99/minute or fraction thereof....well part of it is to compensate the roaming partner.

So I go to the UK and T Mobile US's preferred roaming partner is, believe it or not, T Mobile UK (what a surprise)...so part of the 99/minute or fraction thereof they charge me is to compensate T Mobile UK for me, a T Mobile US customer, using their network. Well when T Mobile US compensates T Mobile UK, since both are fully owned parts of the same conglomerate (Deutsh Telecom I believe)...it is akin to taking money from their left pocket and putting it into the right pocket.

The fact is several UK carriers on some pay as you go plan charge as little as 4p/minute timed in one second intervals for calling the USA from a UK prepaid (if you don't believe me checkout Mobile World, Orange Call Abroad or T Mobile UK bundles)....they seem to be happy getting the business so of course this idea that 99/minute or fraction thereof is not a rip off is absurd and also the idea that international roaming not be allowed on prepaid is also junk.
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Jul 19th, 2007, 08:39 AM
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Actually ... I believe it is not true that if you have a GSM quad-band phone you can "use it wherever you happen to be - from Laos to England".

Japan uses w-CDMA technology so your GSM phone will not work in Japan. But Japan is an exception not the norm.

I am no expert in cell phone technology, but I read that n Japan you can still rent or buy a w-CDMA phone and pop your GSM sim card in it. here's the article:

"No. GSM is not deployed in Japan. If you just would like to use your GSM SIM card (i.e. make/receive calls with your usual number) in Japan, buy or rent a W-CDMA (UMTS) phone, put your SIM card in it and it can roam in Japan. See below about W-CDMA roaming ..."

http://euc.jp/misc/cellphones.en.html#tech
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Jul 19th, 2007, 09:17 AM
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The contractual plans are much better deals, generally speaking, than pay as you go-and "Pay as you go" although it SOUNDS GOOD, IN FACT, ENDS UP COSTING MORE THAN A CONTRACTUAL PLAN-YOU'LL PAY FOR EVERY LITTLE CHARGE, RATHER THAN HAVING IT INCLUDED IN A PLAN.

As for a quad-band phone, the fact of the matter is, you CAN use it all over the world WITH TWO EXCEPTIONS: Japan and Korea-where you will have to rent one of their UMTS/CMDA phones. OR, you can go on ebay and find a Motorola quad band A840 which works on BOTH the 2100 mhz capacity in Japan and on the GSM bands around the rest of the world. And given the cost of renting phones in Japan, I'd say buying one on ebay would prove to be far more economical.

http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/motorola/a840.html
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