problems enter schengen zone after having a Norwegian residence card
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problems enter schengen zone after having a Norwegian residence card
Hi all, Im currently in Norway and waiting to report myself at the police station at 6/11 in order to get a residence card.
I enter Norway at 22/8/2013, with the 90-days rule, my last day in Norway is 19/11/2013. However, I have booked tickets to travel in barcelona, italy and paris for a total of 15 days (24/11 to 5/12), which means including these 15 days, I can only stay in Norway until 7/11/2013 and finish the 90 days stay in schengen zone.
My appointment to register at the police station is at 6/11/2013, and they say it usually takes 10 working days until I get the residence card.If I get the card at 19/11,it also means that I have finished the 90 days in schengen zone.
My issue is that I have bought tickets to travel 15 days in schengen zone countries(24/11 to 5/12), will I have a problem to enter Barcelona at 24/11/2013 and travel for another 15 days in Schengen zone??I am not sure what date will be written as the start date on the residence card, if it is the 6/11, then I dont think I have any issues to enter barcelona at 24/11.
I called and asked this question to the lady work at the police station, she said: I dont understand what you are talking about and I cant answer your questions more because they are too many ppl on the line. Thus, I appreciate if anyone can help!
I enter Norway at 22/8/2013, with the 90-days rule, my last day in Norway is 19/11/2013. However, I have booked tickets to travel in barcelona, italy and paris for a total of 15 days (24/11 to 5/12), which means including these 15 days, I can only stay in Norway until 7/11/2013 and finish the 90 days stay in schengen zone.
My appointment to register at the police station is at 6/11/2013, and they say it usually takes 10 working days until I get the residence card.If I get the card at 19/11,it also means that I have finished the 90 days in schengen zone.
My issue is that I have bought tickets to travel 15 days in schengen zone countries(24/11 to 5/12), will I have a problem to enter Barcelona at 24/11/2013 and travel for another 15 days in Schengen zone??I am not sure what date will be written as the start date on the residence card, if it is the 6/11, then I dont think I have any issues to enter barcelona at 24/11.
I called and asked this question to the lady work at the police station, she said: I dont understand what you are talking about and I cant answer your questions more because they are too many ppl on the line. Thus, I appreciate if anyone can help!
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Well I've red it 3 times and I don;t know what you're talking about either.
What makes you think you will qualify for this residence card?
If you need a visa to stay there and don't have one and turn up asking for a residence permit - won't they make you leave right away?
And how can you make travel plans for long after your visa is expired - which it would be if I read your very convoluted story correctly.
I fear you may be sent home on 11/7 when your schengen visa runs out.
If I were you I would try to find a local attorney who can advise you. (I would suggest going to the government website but very much doubt your situation would be explained there - at least as you have garbled it here.)
What makes you think you will qualify for this residence card?
If you need a visa to stay there and don't have one and turn up asking for a residence permit - won't they make you leave right away?
And how can you make travel plans for long after your visa is expired - which it would be if I read your very convoluted story correctly.
I fear you may be sent home on 11/7 when your schengen visa runs out.
If I were you I would try to find a local attorney who can advise you. (I would suggest going to the government website but very much doubt your situation would be explained there - at least as you have garbled it here.)
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Sorry - a quick run through of the regulations seems to state that to apply for a residence permit to stay in Norway you must make the application in your home country. Also you need to provide two certified (notarized?) copies of various documents - including birth certificate and passport - and prove you have the funds to support yourself for the year's stay - permits are valid for one year.
None of this sounds like what you are talking about - so I really think you need to consult either the appropriate government office in Norway (why a police station?) or get an attorney to help you sort this out.
I would think only the department of state (or similar could rule on this - not local cops).
None of this sounds like what you are talking about - so I really think you need to consult either the appropriate government office in Norway (why a police station?) or get an attorney to help you sort this out.
I would think only the department of state (or similar could rule on this - not local cops).
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I perfectly understand the issue!
OP is a non-EEA family member (spouse, partner etc) of an EEA citizen who is exercising treaty rights in Norway, an EEA country. In order to confirm their right to stay in Norway, they have applied for residence card under EEA regulations valid 5 years, which should allow entry into other EEA countries including Spain for 90-in-180 days when accompanied by their EEA partner or joining them there. OP is worried that if the residence card fails to arrive by departure date for Barcelona, they will still be subject to Schengen rule and may be seen to have overstayed.
My reply is don't worry. First you should have received a certificate of application that you have applied for residence card and that should satisfy any officials. Secondly both Norway and Spain are in Schengen so there is no formal passport control so you are most unlikely to be asked any questions. Thirdly hopefully you will receive your residence card in time.
OP is a non-EEA family member (spouse, partner etc) of an EEA citizen who is exercising treaty rights in Norway, an EEA country. In order to confirm their right to stay in Norway, they have applied for residence card under EEA regulations valid 5 years, which should allow entry into other EEA countries including Spain for 90-in-180 days when accompanied by their EEA partner or joining them there. OP is worried that if the residence card fails to arrive by departure date for Barcelona, they will still be subject to Schengen rule and may be seen to have overstayed.
My reply is don't worry. First you should have received a certificate of application that you have applied for residence card and that should satisfy any officials. Secondly both Norway and Spain are in Schengen so there is no formal passport control so you are most unlikely to be asked any questions. Thirdly hopefully you will receive your residence card in time.
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For those who are wondering about reporting to the police station—
When I lived in Norway (many years ago, admittedly), the local police station issued residence permits. They put a stamp in your passport that showed you had the permit (it took up an entire page, and it was an inked-in stamp, not a pasted-in label).
So that part made perfect sense to me!
When I lived in Norway (many years ago, admittedly), the local police station issued residence permits. They put a stamp in your passport that showed you had the permit (it took up an entire page, and it was an inked-in stamp, not a pasted-in label).
So that part made perfect sense to me!
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Yes, it made sense to me too. I talked to the French Consulate recently about getting a carte de résidence for my new husband, and they said we needed to go to the local préfecture de police to start the paperwork once we arrived in France (I have EU citizenship, so he'd be requesting it based on mine and our relationship). Seems logical to me.
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"they said we needed to go to the local préfecture de police to start the paperwork"
There are only 2 Préfectures de Police in France, one in Paris, one in Bouches du Rhône and none of them deals with residency permits. You are confusing them with Préfectures de Département which would be "the local préfectures" mentioned by the French COnsulate.
There are only 2 Préfectures de Police in France, one in Paris, one in Bouches du Rhône and none of them deals with residency permits. You are confusing them with Préfectures de Département which would be "the local préfectures" mentioned by the French COnsulate.
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