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pepperment Mar 15th, 2022 10:53 AM

Problem: a cost-efficient phone for google maps
 
Hi All,
Have any of you used a burner phone (overseas) for google maps or ViaMichelin? Going to France for a month, alot of driving, and need a cost-efficient way to manage a data guzzling map app. Was thinking about a burner phone, for just this purpose. Likely cheaper in France, but then wouldn't it be all in French? Any tips on vendors or how to figure out the length of the contract I should buy?
All suggestions welcome and I'm interested in what your experience has been.
Thank you.

Moderator1 Mar 15th, 2022 11:50 AM

Moved to Europe forum

macdogmom Mar 15th, 2022 11:52 AM

I have a memory of downloading Google maps in the morning at our apartment or hotel and then being able to use it as I walked through Paris without using Wi-Fi. If you’re driving long distances that may not work, but I also remember for our last couple trips to Europe before Covid getting unlimited data for my phone had gotten a lot more reasonable.

hetismij2 Mar 15th, 2022 12:05 PM

Use WiFi and download the maps you need. You do not need data for navigation.
Some map apps allow you to download an entire country (Here We go for instance) and on Google Maps you can download areas you will be visiting, and they are automatically deleted after a certain length of time.
The only advantage to data with navigation is if there is a big jam or something, and it will give you a diversion though those diversions are sometimes very odd.
If you buy a phone you can set it up in any language you want. Or you could buy a sim for your phone.

pepperment Mar 15th, 2022 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by hetismij2 (Post 17343738)
Use WiFi and download the maps you need. You do not need data for navigation.
Some map apps allow you to download an entire country (Here We go for instance) and on Google Maps you can download areas you will be visiting, and they are automatically deleted after a certain length of time.
The only advantage to data with navigation is if there is a big jam or something, and it will give you a diversion though those diversions are sometimes very odd.
If you buy a phone you can set it up in any language you want. Or you could buy a sim for your phone.

Pray tell: what/where can I get a sim card to load in my ATT (unlocked) phone, that will give me google maps in real time. Want step by step directions: will be in the countryside.
Or has anyone used a prepaid burner phone? That can download google maps. Finally, how many data gigs would you buy for 30 days of constant traveling sim. And...is there a menu on google maps for changing language?
Sorry about being so clay-footed here...Thank you!

pepperment Mar 15th, 2022 12:17 PM

Moderator!

How do I find this thread???? Could not use it on the Europe forum? Should I repost? Would appreciate a few instructions: was not clear where to post this type of thread .

crellston Mar 15th, 2022 12:21 PM

Downloading maps to view offline, at least with googlemaps provides very limited functionality. IME it is way better to either bring a phone and buy a local SIM card, assuming of course that you have an unlocked phone. If you don’t then a cheap smartphone is the only option (other than asking the rental company for a satnav in the car). In the UK you could probably pick up a cheap Nokia smartphone or similar for £100 / 120 euros.

All smartphones can be set up in any language - Chinese, French even American ;-)

janisj Mar 15th, 2022 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by pepperment (Post 17343743)
. . . How do I find this thread???? Could not use it on the Europe forum? Should I repost? Would appreciate a few instructions: was not clear where to post this type of thread .

Not sure I understand the question? You obviously 'found' the thread since you posted to it. Do you mean you can't find the Europe Forum? If so - Europe is one of the many Forums listed if you click on Fodor's Travel Talk Forums at the top left side of the page. Or you can also see it if you click on 'FORUMS' at the top right of the home page.

edit: Now I'm even more confused - just took a quick look at your profile and you have more than ten threads on the Europe Forum so I'm really not sure what you were asking.

hetismij2 Mar 15th, 2022 01:52 PM

You can get turn by turn directions without needing data. Most if not all navigation apps offer the ability to download maps, and pre plan routes if you want to so you don't need data - not everywhere has good data coverage anyway, especially parts of France in my experience.
I have never needed to buy a sim in France but I am sure you can buy them at the airport or in any decent sized town. Do ATT not offer you a roaming package? That would be the easiest if not the cheapest solution.

pepperment Mar 15th, 2022 01:57 PM

To: Moderator

MEA CULPA!
I tried posting the same thread to Europe, but my "reply" to my posters wouldn't load. Once a post is removed, how long does it usually take to have it functional in the "moved to" forum?

pepperment Mar 15th, 2022 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by crellston (Post 17343746)
Downloading maps to view offline, at least with googlemaps provides very limited functionality. IME it is way better to either bring a phone and buy a local SIM card, assuming of course that you have an unlocked phone. If you don’t then a cheap smartphone is the only option (other than asking the rental company for a satnav in the car). In the UK you could probably pick up a cheap Nokia smartphone or similar for £100 / 120 euros.

All smartphones can be set up in any language - Chinese, French even American ;-)

Yes, a new sim card: but what carrier? A new sim card would have the same rates as the usual suspects (ATT, Verizon, T-Mobile etc) wouldn't it?

pepperment Mar 15th, 2022 02:00 PM

Now I can't post to the NEW thread now...wow. What's going on there Mr. M

kureiff Mar 15th, 2022 02:07 PM

We buy an Orange Holiday sim card (order on Amazon) and switch out the sim cards when we land. Or we buy a sim card after we land, but Amazon is pretty easy.

thursdaysd Mar 15th, 2022 02:20 PM

Buy a month's coverage from T-Mobile. You'll have a different phone number, but you'll get unlimited low speed data. I have always found that adequate.

bilboburgler Mar 15th, 2022 03:02 PM

Why not just a good map app ( ie not Google maps) with full functionality and just GPS. No need for a contract or sim at all.

moderator8 Mar 15th, 2022 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by pepperment (Post 17343743)
Moderator!

How do I find this thread???? Could not use it on the Europe forum? Should I repost? Would appreciate a few instructions: was not clear where to post this type of thread .


Originally Posted by pepperment (Post 17343772)
Now I can't post to the NEW thread now...wow. What's going on there Mr. M

When you say you "could not use it", what exactly do you mean?

The new thread was deleted as a duplicate. Please continue on this thread.

Traveler_Nick Mar 15th, 2022 06:46 PM

Data gives you traffic updates. But the main thing you gain with downloading the maps is that's the bulk of the data. Turn by turn and live traffic use up very little data. The Orange tourist package mentioned above is likely way more than you need.

Language isn't an issue. You set up your phone when you get it. If you log into your Google account almost all your info will automatically show up. Things like you email contact list.

Budget? Various Xiaomi phones can be had for fairly reasonable prices.

Or you could buy the TomTom app but that's not much cheaper than a low end phone.

hetismij2 Mar 16th, 2022 01:32 AM

Whether you decide on a new sim, a new phone or download maps make sure you have a 12v car charger for your phone. And yes a US one will fit in a European car.
The chances of needing traffic updates are low. Why not try downloading a map of your area turning off data on your phone and trying to navigate with it. See how you feel about it.

Tulips Mar 16th, 2022 01:32 AM

Or get a phone with 2 simcard slots and switch between your regular card and the one use use while abroad. While if France, use the French card for data.

Traveler_Nick Mar 16th, 2022 02:28 AM

I disagree that needing traffic updates is a low need. The longer the trip the more likely there will be a jam ahead of you or an accident. Plus it lets you just wander off course if you see something you like along the way.

I haven't checked lately but the Here Map (the one that used to be Nokia IIRC) has some weird routing at times. I mean really weird.

The TomTOM I think has speed cameras support built in. But is that legal in France? If not it'll be turned off. But the app acts just like a standalone GPS.

Having a SIM will also let you make calls of course. Late for check in? Needs to book dinner?


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