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Pregnant - Need help with a laid back itinerary

Sep 27th, 2010, 09:48 AM
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Thanks for all our help. I'm still in the process of planning but here's what my itinerary is starting to look like. We will only be switching hotels three times (Torremolinos, Sevilla, Madrid) during our stay in Spain.
Day 1: Arrive in Torremolinos early morning. Relax at the beach or drive to Malaga city that day for lunch/dinner.
Oct 2: Go to Granada or smaller towns around(Rhonda, Marabella).
Day 3: Go to Granada or other smaller towns around.(Would it be easier to stay in Granada for one or two nights?)
Day 4: Go to Cordoba if we're done with Malaga/coastal area.
Day 5: Drive to Seville early morning. We'd like to visit Rhonda on the way but worried about car theft with all our belongings in the car.
Day 6: Visit Sevilla
Day 7: Visit Cadiz or some other coastal town
Day 8: Leave for Madrid early morning (or maybe the drive is easier in the evening?)
Day 9: Madrid
Da 10: Madrid
Day 11: Flying out in the morning from Madrid.
I will probably post this itinerary as a separate post (with an appropriate title) so other people can comment on it as well.
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Sep 27th, 2010, 10:06 AM
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This is your idea of a laid-back trip for 10 days? wow. Well, you know what you like to do, my idea of a laid back trip is not visiting new cities for one day each. At least you have two days in Madrid.
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Sep 27th, 2010, 01:47 PM
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It doesn't matter if you use Torremolinos or Granada as a base during your first three days, you'll be spending a lot of time in the car.

What are you planning to doing with the car once you reach Sevilla?
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Sep 27th, 2010, 03:00 PM
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hi bluesky,

just got back from Seville. i never thought that I'd find a place where I'd want a car less than Florence, but I just found it. traffic is horrible, parking is worse. and having a car is pointless as you can walk/bus/ tram/taxi/ horse-drawn carriage everywhere you want to go. [and I've got the blisters to prove it!]

I suggest that if you are determined on what seems a pretty busy "laid-back" schedule, you make Seville the penultimate place, return the car when you arrive there, [that'll save a few days car hire too] and go straight from there to Madrid on the train.

reading your latest post, I think that you are underestimating the time it will take to get from place to place. it is approx 2 hours from the coast to the outskirts of Granada, then factor in at least 30 mins to negotiate the traffic and get parked, and the same going back, that's 5 hours driving to get to see only the alhambra, because that's the only thing that you will have time to see. which is a shame as Granada is a very pleasant place to stay.

trying to cut your itinerary down so as to make it more "relaxing", i suggest this:

Day 1: Arrive Malaga in time for lunch/dinner. stay Malaga
Day 2: Malaga. picasso museum, beach, cathedral, market, etc.
Day 3: Go to Granada. explore Granada during rest of day. Night visit to the alhambra. Stay Granada.
Day 4: Alhambra day-time visit. in afternoon/evening, drive up into mountains. if you've got the energy, in the late eveing, go to flamenco show in Sacromento dostrict.stay Granada
Day 5: Drive to Seville early morning via cordoba. spend day in Cordoba. [to minimise car theft, try to park with the rear of the car up against the car park wall, with all belongings out of sight in the boot]. late afternoon, drive to seville, return car.
Day 6: Sevilla
Day 7: Sevilla
Day 8: Leave for Madrid on train.
Day 9: Madrid
Da 10: Madrid
Day 11: Flying out in the morning from Madrid

sorry, you miss out Ronda. but you see almost everything else on your list, but in a more leisurely way.
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Sep 27th, 2010, 06:15 PM
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annhig - I like your suggested itinerary better than mine! I think we'll overnight in Granada and maybe pick another small town base instead of Malaga. Ronda looks so beautiful in pictures...seems like it has the small town charm that we're looking for(which might be lacking in Malaga?).
Driving on narrow streets doesn't bother my husband (he drives in NYC and driven in small towns in Sicily and France) but spending 2.5 hours each way doesn't sound like fun. We will probably return the rental car as soon as we arrive in Sevilla. We were initially planning on returning the car in Madrid since train tix would cost just as much as keeping the car for extra two days.
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Sep 27th, 2010, 11:39 PM
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Hotel parking is an average 15 eur. per day.
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Sep 28th, 2010, 01:26 AM
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I was just about to post a question about raw milk cheeses in Spain when I saw this thread. Really useful since I'm pregnant too and leaving for Spain this week. Prey fish are also on my no go list. Cova, is this the same in Spain and what is the word for it? I can't find it in my dictionary and tried to explain in a restaurant when I was in Spain last june, but couldn't get there with my limited Spanish.

Have fun on your trip bluesky. We're staying in the Ronda area for 1 week and near the coast for the other. We're planning to take day trips if I'm up to it. I have to say that, at this point, I don't think I could manage your itineray although it does look interesting.
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Sep 28th, 2010, 02:48 PM
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hi bluesky,

glad to have been some help. do think again about Malaga - we only spent one night there and I'd really like to go back. it's a lovely civilised-feeling and real city as opposed to a "tourist" centre. of course Ronda is beautiful but it's as touristy seville and granada, I think.

vakantie - europeans just aren't as hung up on these things as americans, and the UK is, I believe, more "clued up" than spain or italy. to be on the safe side, just don't eat cheese. I've no idea what you mean by "prey fish" - Spain is very keen on fish and there are all types of white fish and shellfish. they are described by name on menus and yo can order what you like - or not.
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Sep 29th, 2010, 04:26 AM
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I think 'prey fish' may not be the correct term; 'predatory fish' is probably better. What I mean are fish that are at the top of the food chain and thus more likely to have a high mercury/ dioxin etc. content. I'm aware that the fish are described on the menu. The problem is that they may have different names, also I don't know about every fish there is and if it is a predatory fish or not. I am european by the way. Anyway, the advice to be careful when eating fish is standard medical advice here, as it is nowadays in the UK. Different times I guess. I figure that the more knowledge I have, the easier it is to pick what I like and to fully enjoy whatever is on the menu.
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Sep 29th, 2010, 01:06 PM
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vakantie,

we had no problem working out what the fish were in Seville - the names readily translated, or were already translated for us. [apart from the baby praws!]

when I was pregnant, the advice was not to eat potatoes.
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Sep 30th, 2010, 02:56 AM
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Ann,

hahaha, well maybe you can tell me what the spanish word for potatoes is?? Anyway, thanks for your input Ann. Before we head into a discussion about what pregnant women should or shouldn't do, my question really only is how to translate the term 'predatory fish' into spanish and also if predatory fish are on the 'don't eat list' the spanish doctors give you. I think Cova probably can tell me this.

Cova,

I hope you see this and I'd really appreciate it if you can help me. Sorry about highjacking your thread Bluesky
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Sep 30th, 2010, 11:07 AM
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I wouldn't use the word predatory fish with waiters in restaurants as I don't think they will know exactly what you mean. I don't think they would in the US, either, that isn't a common term used and waiters aren't going to be experts on that issue more than you will. You just want to avoid fish high in mercury levels, and you can say that, although waiters may not know. You probalby know the kind to avoid -- tuna, swordfish, mackerel, but I think you need to research that yourself to be on the safe side. I think all developed countries know about pregnant or lactating women avoiding excess mercury (or anyone for that matter, but more so for them). The European Commission has issued statements on that for health reasons in Spain and other countries, and Spanish medical and research professionals know that, although I have no idea what a typical Spanish obstetrician would recommend. But I work in public health and have seen some published articles by researchers and academics from Spain on this topic.

Specifically, what you asked about would be "peces predadores" in Spanish (predatory fish). You can also say you don't want fish with "altos niveles de mercurio" or high levels of mercury, or that are "alto en mercurio".
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Oct 1st, 2010, 04:30 AM
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Thanks Christina, very useful!
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Oct 1st, 2010, 02:52 PM
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Specifically, what you asked about would be "peces predadores" in Spanish (predatory fish). You can also say you don't want fish with "altos niveles de mercurio" or high levels of mercury, or that are "alto en mercurio".>>

my suspicion is that they will look at you as if you are mad, if you do this, and won't have a clue what you are talking about. i can't imagine that one UK waiter in 1000 would understand you and neither will the spanish. if you are determined about this, you will have to research yourself the fish to avoid and not order them.

and the spanish for "potatoes" is "patates".

not being unhelpful I hope, but realistic.
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