Portugal itinerary feedback
Hi, All,
I am planning a trip to Portugal for 3 weeks in September. As context, I have been before: once for 11 days (Estorial/Cascais, Lisbon/Belem, Fatima, Coimbra, Porto) and once for 4 days (Faro area) on a trip to Spain. I have read the trip reports here -- including Russ's amazing photo journal) and bought a Michelin road map (to get an overview or possible routings and roads between different cities/areas) and used google maps to get driving times and distances. Based on that, here is the first itinerary I have come up with. At this point, I am planning to have a car for at least some part of the Algarve stay until I return it to Lisbon before staying in that city to end the trip. Here is what I have laid out:
Any thought on:
Thanks in advance. John H |
Hi!
Concerning car: for some places, and with your itinerary, yes you need. Otherwise how do you intend to move from one place to another? Concerning your itinerary, some thing I would change, if it was me having this trip: Portalegre or Castelo de Vide: neither. A night in Marvão, it's a magical place. You can eat very well at the nearest village, Fronteira. Viseu: why do you need 2 nights there? I mean, there are several thing around, but not sure if you intend to visit. More or less the same thing for Lamego. Guimarães: 2 nights ok, if you intend it to be a base to visit other places. Porto: 2 nights: you won't even scruch the surface. Aveiro or Figueira da Foz: Figueira da Foz Tomar: lovely town, maybe one night is not enough, the surroundings have a lot to see Lisbon, several night: YES Have a nice stay. Helena |
Hi, Helen,
Thanks for that feedback. A few thoughts:
John H |
Hi!
Régua (Peso da Régua) is a better place to use as a base for Douro Valley. That said, Lamego is very interesting. It is one place in Portugal where you can see 3 statues of "Nossa Senhora do Ó" (Our Lady Mary pregnant - very pregnant - it is not very usual), and nearby it's Ucanha, a small village with a very nice bridge where you can still see the "house" where you had to pay tolls to cross (also has a nice Monastery. Last time I went there I almost cryied, they had the ancient books on the table, anyone could handle them, of course I did not, and they had a new baptysm sink made of concret, the priest was very happy, this was a nex one, the old one, made of only one stone, was at the grass at the backyard). Guimarães is a good base for all the places you mentioned. From Guimarães to Santiago it's more or less 2 hours, and Santiago is a nice place. You take A7 till Famalicão, then A3 towards Valença, and them the Spanish highway till Santiago (please note that you should have an electronic tool that works in Portugal not is Spain, and the same for car insurance. Oh, and another thing, when it is noon at Portugal it's 13:00 in Spain - Always one hour more in Spain). Batalha is not a base for anything. It's a place you visit (the monastery, I mean). I don't even think they have hotels there. Leiria is a nice town, I like the river and the castle, and the Castle, and of course the streets at the city center, but those are like all the others in all the other portuguese cities. Besides Leiria, you also have Pombal, and Fátima. Fátima is where those miracle things happened, so it's a local for pilgrims, with lots, and I mean lots of cheap and very decent hotels. In my opinion, from any of these cities, to Tomar, you should stop at "Castelo de Almourol". Not that it is a very interesting castle, on the opposite, it's a small one, but it is build in an island in Tejo's river, so it's nice to visit (there is a small boat that would take you there. Or you can swim). If you choose to stay at Tomar, "Hotel dos Templários" is the place. Not cheap, not new, but very good. And at tomar, besides visiting the aqueduct and the castle, you should also visit the "Museu dos fósforos", it's an old jewish place to pray, with jars inside the corner walls to help amplificate the voice of the preacher. I forgot that you had already been in Portugal, mainly in Porto, so you can split your time through other places you have not been. I don't know how many nights you need, sorry. But I think you can have an idea as the plan starts to be more realistic. Hope I have helped! Helena |
Tomar, Obidos, Evora
Hi John, what a great itinerary. We spent 2 nights in Evora at the Posada and loved it, you could easily do three. If you get a chance go out into the nearby countryside to see the standing stones, and the nearby town (whose name I'm spacing on ) where they make carpets.
Tomar was one of my favorite stops - wish we had stayed longer. We also stayed several nights in Obidos, a charming town north of Sintra which was great as a base for exploring nearby countryside (especially if you have any interest in the Napoleonic wars. I'll have to get back to you, there was a wonderful former royal hunting lodge that we stayed in south of Porto that was also a major battlefield in the Napoleonic wars, but I'm spacing on the name (we were there many years ago). Enjoy your trip. |
Originally Posted by lauramsgarden
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Hi John, what a great itinerary. We spent 2 nights in Evora at the Posada and loved it, you could easily do three. If you get a chance go out into the nearby countryside to see the standing stones, and the nearby town (whose name I'm spacing on ) where they make carpets.
Tomar was one of my favorite stops - wish we had stayed longer. We also stayed several nights in Obidos, a charming town north of Sintra which was great as a base for exploring nearby countryside (especially if you have any interest in the Napoleonic wars. I'll have to get back to you, there was a wonderful former royal hunting lodge that we stayed in south of Porto that was also a major battlefield in the Napoleonic wars, but I'm spacing on the name (we were there many years ago). Enjoy your trip. where they made carpets: Arraiolos former royal hunting lodge: the village is Grijó, but I have no idea where you stayed. Helena |
Yes to Arraiolos,, and the hunting lodge was at Bussaco - battlefield site - magical place in old forest.
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Thanks, Helena, for your very personal stories and insights -- greatly appreciated. Laura, thanks for your input as well -- please follow up if you can on the items where you couldn't recall the names. And, if you have your overall itinerary and nights spent in each place, that would be great to see. Any lodging recommendations welcome!
Here is where I am on my itinerary as of now (these are the locations I would work out of, not all the places I would visit): Algarve - 9 nights (want some good beach time, and will drive and spend days in different cities, working out of two base cities) Evora - 2 nights (possibly 3 given Laura's comments) Marvao - 1 night Viseu - 2 nights Lamego - 1 night (to do Pinhao river cruise and relax) Guimaraes - 2 nights (possibly 3 if want to do a day trip into Porto, where I previously have spent 4 nights) Tomar or Obidos - 2 nights Lisbon and possibly Cascais or Sintra - 2-4 nights (spent 6 days here on a prior trip) Thanks for any final thoughts / feedback. John H |
Originally Posted by lauramsgarden
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Yes to Arraiolos,, and the hunting lodge was at Bussaco - battlefield site - magical place in old forest.
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Here's an article about entering and visiting Portugal under Covid rules in effect in July 2021.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/portug...process-covid/ |
Thanks so much for posting this. I get the TPG newsletter but somehow missed this. Will keep an eye on things. May have to revert to a different strategy of working out of 3 hotels the entire trip (Lisbon, Porto, the Algarve).
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My current approach is to stay in 3-4 different posuadas over my three-week trip (barring the above comment on perhaps needing a new strategy in light of covid testing requirements. How do the vouchers work? They seem to save you money, but I find the explanations on the web site confusing, e.g.:
Any thoughts on using these vouchers and clarifying any terms and conditions would be appreciated. Thanks! John H |
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