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progol May 7th, 2022 09:10 AM

Portugal at last!
 
It’s now Saturday, May 7, and we arrived in Portugal just 2 days ago - though it feels like we’ve been here forever! After 2 flights from NYC, we arrived in Lisbon around noon, and proceeded to get the Via Viagem card in the airport , took the metro 3 stops to the Oriente station and changed to the Sintra train, which was sitting in the station waiting for us! I can’t believe how smoothly it went!

We arrived at 2pm and found the lovely Chalet Saudade very easily and, very fortunately, our room was ready. We were both in dire need of showers and a rest. The staff here are lovely, managed by the warm, welcoming and extremely competent Filippa, and assisted by 2 lovely women from Brazil. We are convinced that there are more Brazilians here than Portuguese!

After a good rest, we changed into very lightweight clothes because the temps here are glorious- warm and really not too hot. At 4pm, we were ready to go out. And we were ready to tackle our first site! We went to the Palácio Nacional de Sintra, or National Palace. I’m not going into details now but we loved this site. The combination of the Moorish and the Manueline styles, the gorgeous tiles, the historic aspects and the utter lack of crowds made it a wonderful first site to visit. Arriving at 4pm was perfect!

Dinner the first night was at Dom Pipas, a small traditional restaurant on the other side of the train station. Highly recommend! Excellent food and wonderful service.

I will try to post some pix when I can as well as post more as we go along. But I won’t promise because it’s hard to keep up!

Maribel May 7th, 2022 09:28 AM

Hi progol,
Glad your trip went so smoothly and that you love the Chalet Saudade (thought you would!) and that you made it on your first day (wow!) to the National Palace w/o crowds!

Eager to hear more when you have time, but in the meantime, have fun!

tripplanner001 May 7th, 2022 09:47 AM

Otimo! I'm so happy for you and your husband that you're in Portugal - at last. Good weather and no crowds no less. Have a very happy time. I look forward to following you on your journey.

thursdaysd May 7th, 2022 10:55 AM

So glad for you that you finally made it and things are going well.

HelenaFatima May 7th, 2022 11:33 AM

Welcome!

HappyTrvlr May 7th, 2022 11:42 AM

We loved the much older National Palace,and preferred it to Peña Palace. Enjoy your trip to Portugal!

progol May 7th, 2022 03:08 PM

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progol May 7th, 2022 03:09 PM

The above- miscellaneous photos walking to and exploring the National Palace

TDudette May 7th, 2022 03:11 PM

Sign me on! John the Baptist???

Maribel May 7th, 2022 03:17 PM

Those wrap around blue/white tiles in the Coat of Arms upper room are really magnificent!

Melnq8 May 7th, 2022 03:26 PM

Our taxi driver in Sintra told us the National Palace was the best of the bunch. Looks like he was right.

KarenWoo May 7th, 2022 03:29 PM

Wow!!! What gorgeous photos!!! So happy that you finally made it to Portugal, and things are going great so far. I admire people who can post while on their trip. Not sure I have the energy or time to do that.
Thank you!

TPAYT May 7th, 2022 05:08 PM

Excellent photos. I’m along for the ride.

Moderator3 May 7th, 2022 06:12 PM

Turned on the trip report flag

progol May 7th, 2022 11:16 PM

Thanks, everyone! I hope you don’t mind if I don’t respond individually right now. I’m doing my best to keep up and will try to give you a flavor of Portugal as we travel.

We are in Sintra for a total of 3 nights in order to see the Big 5: National Palace, Peña Palace, (autocorrect keeps spelling Peña with the tilde on it but it doesn’t have one!) Moorish Castle, Quinta da Regaleira. The 3 nights were perfect for us - seeing only 2 major sights a day was comfortable and we were able to do it at a relaxed pace.

We woke up on our first morning to a thick fog and we could barely see anything out the window, yet by the time we were on our way, the skies had begun to clear, and by late morning, we had clear blue skies. So, after a lovely breakfast at the guest house’s restaurant, Cafe Saudade, we eventually found our way by tuk-tuk to Peña Palace, a fantasy castle built in the 19th century by Prince Ferdinand, containing gothic towers, moorish minarets, Renaissance details, and whacky details galore.

My best intentions for getting to the palace were just that. The breakfast at Cafe Saudade didn’t start till 8:30am, and not only did the guest house serve their own guests, they served other tourists as well. It was a slow start to my plan for the day! Of course, figuring out transportation was the next step. My Uber app needed to update, and the buses were too crowded for us to feel comfortable, so we took a tuk-tuk (€10pp), which turned out to be a perfect way to approach the palace! The driver was charming and we enjoyed our interaction with him. The bus was @ €11.50 pp for a circular route through several of the sites, but no option was offered for just a ride to the palace.

We arrived by 10:15 oand the lines were definitely building up. This is one of the most popular sites in Portugal’s most popular tourist town, and it was definitely busy. I had pre-purchased tickets, and after a moderate wait, entered the site. But this was only the first line - there’s a second line to enter the interior. We waited perhaps 20 minutes to enter the interior, but the crowds were creeping through the rooms. We asked a guard if there was a way to get out, and he walked us through the crowds and out the door!

We enjoyed the rest of the visit, walking along the walls around the back of the palace and enjoying the views and escaping the now truly ridiculously long lines and crowds!

progol May 7th, 2022 11:28 PM

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Yes, it’s all about the color!
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Love the details
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The palace sits in a beautiful setting
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We enjoyed the walk around the palace walls and views from the terrace
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Overview
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progol May 8th, 2022 01:37 AM

We had a strange thing happen when we arrived in Lisbon - we exited the airport and completely bypassed passport control entering Portugal. We DID enter the EU through Brussels when we changed from a United flight to another flight (Brussels Airline, but on a through ticket in United) so our passports are stamped, but not upon entry to Portugal. There was no one directing us to passport control in Lisbon, no pathways funneling us to passport control, so we’re still puzzled by how this happened. I’ve been a bit concerned this would be a problem when we leave, but we are in the EU so I can’t see how that would be an issue, either. But we didn’t intentionally avoid customs, just nothing directed us in that direction. Any reason to be concerned or just accept we managed to avoid a 2-3 hour line upon entering?!

tripplanner001 May 8th, 2022 04:28 AM

As both Belgium and Portugal are within Schengen, there would not have been immigration and passport control. You didn't miss it; it just doesn't exist. If you arrived in Lisbon direct from NYC or via London or Dublin, you would have been entering an arrival hall with immigration and customs. Travelling within Schengen is like travelling on domestic flights within the U.S.

BTW, I love the photos of all the exquisite tilework. The crowds, not so much. Hope you continue to find your way away from the crowds.

progol May 8th, 2022 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by tripplanner001 (Post 17360527)
As both Belgium and Portugal are within Schengen, there would not have been immigration and passport control. You didn't miss it; it just doesn't exist. If you arrived in Lisbon direct from NYC or via London or Dublin, you would have been entering an arrival hall with immigration and customs. Travelling within Schengen is like travelling on domestic flights within the U.S.

BTW, I love the photos of all the exquisite tilework. The crowds, not so much. Hope you continue to find your way away from the crowds.

Thank you so much for the explanation about the Schengen connection. That’s very interesting as I had only considered the EU relationship and knew many EU members had to enter through passport control as well. That gives me a great sense of relief - and we didn’t have the 2 hour wait entering Lisbon! A win-win for us!

I’m sure I’ll have plenty more tile photos for you, tp.

Melnq8 May 8th, 2022 05:49 AM

Enjoying your report progol - I know you spent a lot of time planning and I hope your trip goes to plan.


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