sara_j, I didn't mena to imply that the Chassagne apartment was cramped. It is one of the most spacious we've ever rented, just the bedrooms are small, one with a queen and one with twins that are right next to each other.
We've rented the Paris Vacation apt on the Palais Royal second floor. It had a queen and a true king as advertised. I believe if they say king it really is! We are renting their apt on Ile St Louis this fall with 2 kings.
The problem, to me, with someone using a sofa bed, is that you've lost the common space which is why most of us rent apartments. If someone gets up early or want so stay up late reading, that option doesn't work.

Shouldn't post before coffee! "mena" is mean and "want so" should read wants to.

Sara, you may want to ask PVA about the beds. The kings "may" be two twins together. I can't remember. All I remember is that I slept very well.

Sara, The HomeAway apt. has a very nice floor plan. We were 5 adults and very comfortable. One used the study as a bedroom, mother/daughter slept in the 1st bedroom (bath w/wc across the hall) and one couple slept in the master (w/ensuite bath). This meant that the living room was always tidy and available. The beds, however, are all queen-size, if memory serves. Truly beautiful planted balconies, with a view on rue des Petits Champs. The Paulliac is on a lovely quiet street right off the busy rue St.Dominique, with a small balcony and top of the Eiffel Tower view. There's plenty of room for 4 people, as the living room space is quite large (with sofabed if needed). One bedroom has two twins made into a king if desired and the other bedroom has a queen with bathroom ensuite. This bathroom has only shower and basin - the wc for this bathroom is really what looks like the powder room next to the kitchen. The second bathroom (across the hall from both bedrooms) is a full bath. BTW, although the configuration might not be the best for 4 people, these are the loveliest bathrooms I've seen in apt rentals. Hope this helps. EJ

Thanks you guys.
Yes, Judy you are right about the sofabed and would like to avoid that if possible. And I will ask the agencies about space for luggage and drawers or amoires/drawers to store clothes....
cw, Yes good idea to check with PVA about the bed configuration and whether any of the kings split into two beds.
Thanks ElsieJune for answering the questions. Not sure either the Homeaway or Paulliac would work due to the bed and/or bath configurations.

I found this one today which would work (Both beds convert to singles and the baths are close by the BRs)
http://www.athomeinfrance.com/ah116.htm Shown here too
http://www.vrbo.com/206290
It is not as gorgeous as some others I have seen but location sounds okay and definitely in price range.

I will keep looking and working on my list - I am sure we will find something to make everyone happy! Meantime, if you think of any more please let me know!!

Thanks for the help!!
Sara

That apartment looks like it has everything you need!

Here's another. We've considered this apartment before. Once a year I usually spend a week with my adult daughters and an occasional friend in Paris and have several requirements....separate beds, good location, AC if it might remotely be needed, comfortable seating for the number of people going and good lighting.

http://www.vrbo.com/124960

Gorgeous is great if you can get it(and I certainly prefer it) but functional is more important for me

Thanks Judy, that one looks good too and I will add to my list. I think that I have not been focused enough on the basic needs for 4 women re the beds, convenience of baths etc and was more into how pretty the apt was and whether it had a view or a balcony. You guys have helped me reset the priorities and have been very helpful! :)

Sara_j of all that you are looking at, if you have 2 of your group that don't mind sharing a bed, the homeaway 143450 would be my choice. It has the requisite beds, central AC, fair price, good location, very nice decor AND a balcony. Just don't book it when I want it!

Yes, I love that apt and it is one of favs but the beds are only 140 cm which is 4'7". That is smaller than my queen bed and a lot smaller than my king. Don't think anyone would want to share a bed if it is smaller than a king. BUMMER!
The search continues!

It looks like the GLORIOSA apt. you were looking at from Guest Apartment has the beds and baths you were looking for.

IMO, you will LOVE being right on The Seine and again Phillipe and Tom at the service are great to work with. Their office is right on The Ile and they will help with any reservations, tours, etc. From the original email on the service was top knotch.

Good Luck!

Yes, thanks, it is lovely and I like it alot. It is on my short list which has gotten very short after I reviewed the bed and bath configurations of some I picked out earlier! Love the views!

I just found this one this looks pretty nice too:

http://www.vrbo.com/56696 2 King beds, one can be twins, also room with bunks - not sure a adult could use? It is spacious with 1600 sq feet, a sitting room, wi-fi and a computer, plus a family room with sofas. WC is down the hall a little bit from the bedrooms but otherwise looks very good. Close to the Seine and the views and neighborhood look nice to me but I don’t know much about Paris! I really like it from what I see and it gets good reviews.

Another good location, but given the choice, I'd be closer to Notre Dame. Just my opinion, of course.

Thanks TPAYT, and BTW I enjoyed your trip report from 2008! Sounds like you had a great time and ate some delicious dinners!

I haven't looked at the others you are considering, but want to put in another strong recommendation for the Paris Vacation Apartments third floor deluxe double. We stayed in the three bedroom on the top two floors w/our 5 children (all in their 30s, one couple, 2 girls that shared a room, and one single on the sofabed). It was like we died and went to heaven. Four bathrooms, if you counted the powder room.

While there I looked at the two bedroom on the third floor and was equally impressed - it's beautiful. One of the things I particularly liked was the way that the bathrooms were located. The closest to the living area was across the hall from the bedroom, and the second bath was across from the second bedroom - with a door that could be closed off to make it an en-suite. That would work well for several women, as you could leave the "suite" door open and anyone could use both bathrooms (if you look at the floorplan you'll see what I mean).

The location is fabulous, so close to the #1 line along the river and easy to get almost anywhere. We felt perfectly safe and frankly pampered staying there. We ate at an Italian place on the garden (I think it was called Cafe Corrazza) which was very nice, cost in 2006 was 77 euros w/wine for 2 people. We're going to Paris in April and I'm looking at Willi's Wine Bar and the Restaurant du Palais Royal, both next to this PVA apartment.

And right around the corner on the Rue des Petits Champs is a wonderful little jewelry store called Babylone which I love! I hope it's still there.

Wow, have a great time planning this trip! What fun.

I can't help you with this, but would just recommend that if a king vs. queen is very important to you (which I think it is), you really need to ask the agency/landlord the size of the bed, don't just take their word for the size. It should be in cm, and a king is around 180 cm and a queen 160 cm in France. The problem is a lot of French agencies/hotels call bigger than usual "double" beds (which are 140 cm) "king" sometimes even when they are queen. They don't distinguish between those two terms sometimes. And two twins pushed together are not the same size as two twin American beds pushed together, it will probably be 180 cm, two 90 cm mattresses together (which are smaller than a US twin size bed).

Thanks Christina, good to know about the bed sizing and I will keep that in mind and ask more questions about the beds before we book. I did email PVA about whether the "king" beds could be separated and Clara responded that they could make them up separate (sheets) but not physically apart. She said that they could bring a fold out twin bed. I have asked if that is a rollaway or cot. Not sure if that option would be acceptable.

Iwan2GO - It sounds like you stayed in the Royal Luxury apt which is $5200/week in high season. I agree that is beautiful but it is about 700 over the max amount we think we will pay which is around 4500.....And we are really hoping to find something for around 4000 or so.

I kind of like these apartments too (except for the beds)

http://parisvacationapartments.com/i...2-bedroom.html

http://parisvacationapartments.com/i...2-bedroom.html My favorite part of this one is the bathrooms - they look great!!

Thanks for your responses - I appreciate all the opinions and suggestions.

sara_j, I may have mentioned that I do a "girl's trip" once a year with my adult daughters and friends. None of us likes to share a bed, though my daughters will share a true king....I think they put extra pillows or blankets down the middle so the more restless sleeper stays on her side of the bed!

We were renting the PVA 2 bedroom apartment on the 1st floor (2nd American) I had the queen room and my daughters had the king. At the last minute a friend wanted to join us and PVA delivered a twin rollaway bed (had spring base and real mattress) Once opened it did look like a "real" bed.

The agency is great to work with.

I've never rented this apartment but did have it bookmarked as it can have 4 twin beds, has AC and a great location.
http://www.vrbo.com/124960

Thanks Judy - I have asked CLara to clarify if the rollaway has bedsprings and a mattress.

On the VRBO place, it does look nice but in the description it mentions AC in the living room. One or two of us may need it at night in the bedrooms due to our ages and the accompanying biological changes! I know, TMI......

sara-j - you may have already made your selection, but if not, you may want to take a look at this apartment on Rue Malar in the 7th:
http://www.rentalfrance.com/index.ph...alar-2nd-floor
We stayed there with another couple for a week in October and highly recommend it. THe neighborhood is very safe and quiet with great restaurants nearby. It's about 2 blocks from the Seine with close by Metro stations. At least one, but I think both beds can be made into twins. It's also FAR less expensive than any Paris Perfect apt that we've looked at. The same agency has other apts available including one 1 floor higher than this one in the same building. Good luck!