Pickpocketed in Lisbon: A Memoir

Old Dec 31st, 2019, 01:31 PM
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The cynic in me has a feeling that the voluntary tips are not their only source on income.
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That same thought occurred to me.
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Old Dec 31st, 2019, 01:40 PM
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Keeping your hand on your wallet in your front pocket is just announcing that your money is there. It's ridiculously easy to make someone take their hands out of their pocket. Just jostle them a bit, or somehow make them lose their balance slightly.

I've been telling my husband this for years, but he persists in carrying two wallets: one in a back pocket with change and a few euros, and one in the front pocket with his cards and more cash. Neither pocket has ever been picked (yet), in years of travel on four continents.
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Old Dec 31st, 2019, 01:57 PM
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Curious how you access that bra wallet when you need it?
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Old Dec 31st, 2019, 02:08 PM
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Curious how you access that bra wallet when you need it?
See #19.
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 04:13 AM
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I saw #19. I guess I don't see the point of carrying money and cards if you can't easily access them. If the idea is to keep a spare card and cash in a different area than a more accessible card and cash, I'd probably just not carry the spare at all, but perhaps leave it back in the hotel safe. Different strokes.
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 07:09 AM
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Mel I think using a money belt or a bra wallet are just fail safe measures if you become a pickpocket victim. They don't prevent you from ever being a victim as they wouldn't have helped me anyway as I never keep my passport with my money or credit cards. Mine are all kept separate and that seems to be key.
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 07:38 AM
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I saw #19. I guess I don't see the point of carrying money and cards if you can't easily access them. If the idea is to keep a spare card and cash in a different area than a more accessible card and cash, I'd probably just not carry the spare at all, but perhaps leave it back in the hotel safe. Different strokes.
I find a money belt or similar under-clothes pouch invaluable for times when I'm in transit from place to place, when I don't have (or don't trust) a hotel safe, when I'm on a day trip, or yes, even when I have my "main" stash in a hotel safe.
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 07:39 AM
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The point of wearing a money belt, or carrying a similar hidden stash, is that it is not a disaster if one day's cash and one credit card are stolen by a pick pocket (or if your hotel safe is burgled).

The OP has already pointed out the difficulties experienced by a tourist with no money or credit cards. Losing your passport requires a trip to the nearest embassy or consulate, which is also likely to require money.

I wear a thin money belt with the pouch at the back. After a long trip I feel undressed without it.
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 08:40 AM
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After a long trip I feel undressed without it.
Me, too!
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 08:52 AM
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I just bought two bra stash of different types. My friend picked the super silky one from eagles creek and I got the more studier one. I thought they would be great for summer travel.
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Yes, they are more comfortable during sweaty weather. When I'm just out for the day, the passport is in the room safe or hotel lockbox, and I have readily accessible cash for the day. The bra stash is backup cash and a credit card.

When I'm moving between places, I may use a money belt for the passport, or I may just tuck it wrapped in plastic under my arm.
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 11:13 AM
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When I was in Nice and Beaulieu sur Mer, I experienced three pickpocket attempts.

The pickpockets never got anything because I am clever.

Thin, aristocrat 🇫🇮
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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 09:54 PM
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To Isabel - I dislike wearing the moneybelts that go round your waist as they dig in and are very uncomfortable. With jeans, they don't fit easily under the waistband and on top of the waistband only works if you have a top pulled down to cover the moneybelt. The ones that hang around your neck are slightly easier but I still hate having it against my skin. The bra ones look practical for a small amount of cash or a couple of cards, I hadn't seen them before. I suppose the best idea is to not carry everything in one place and split cards up if you are travelling as a couple. Keeping a bit of cash somewhere obscure, like the shoe above, is a good idea for emergencies.

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Old Jan 1st, 2020, 10:12 PM
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I have used the bra strap wallet for a couple cards and some cash on several trips. It worked well and when I had a v neck top on I could just easily and discreetly take it off and get things out. Believe me no thief could get it out easily or discreetly.
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A couple of years ago, I stayed in the Alfama district - within 100 yards of where the OP had their wallet borrowed. It is a popular spot for tourists catching the Number 28 tram - notorious for thieves.
On that trip we passed a dumpster, and find about 6 wallets - all still had their cards/licences etc - seemed the thieves were purely after cash.
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@KayF - what kind of money belt have you tried that "digs in"?

I have been using this one for years, (although Lewis N Clark no longer have it on their website): https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lewis-N-C...Stash/12179959

I wear it with the pouch at the back, below not at my waist, and it doesn't dig in even with two passports.
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Pickpocket prevention

Hi
This how I prevent this type of situation

Pickpockets
Pickpockets, opportunists and scammers can be everywhere but they are most common in large cities, tourist areas, public transport and anywhere with crowds.
I try to avoid areas with large crowds, travel during non- rush hour in public transport and take precautions everywhere else.
I carry a cheap wallet with about 20 euros, no credit cards, no bank cards, no ID - itís my sacrifice wallet - pickpockets can steal that wallet.I keep a larger amount of money somewhere else on my person.
When I need to make a purchase I go into a WC ( water closet / toilet / washroom) and in private I transfer the amount from my secure location.
That way no one knows where it is.

Opportunists will steal from an open / open / unattended purse , backpack, etc.

Scammers will try almost any story or anything to get your money so I avoid anything that is not official or anybody trying to tell me stories or deals.

ID
For my ID I carry a certified copy of my passport ( issued by the passport office / authority) and keep the passport at the hotel safe.Carrying ID In Portugal is required by law and if itís stolen, itís only the copy and not the original.

Happy travels
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Old Jan 2nd, 2020, 05:37 PM
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I use a 'money belt' similar to this one (not the exact same style but pretty similar) https://www.target.com/p/rfid-wallet...B&gclsrc=aw.ds


BUT . . . I do not wear it around my neck. I find that very uncomfortable - plus the strap shows at the neck unless one is wearing a turtleneck. Because of the toggle - it is easy to string it around my waist and cinch it so the 'pocket lies just behind the front pocket of my slacks or jeans so doesn't show in any way.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2020, 07:25 PM
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