Photo radar Speeding ticket - Spain

Old Aug 4th, 2014, 08:07 AM
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"If this becomes an epidemic across Europe, it will discourage visitors from renting cars."
Or encourage them to respect the laws of the country they visit.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 08:46 AM
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I wish Robert2533 was correct as least as far as Ontario is concerned but we've had reciprocity with many States for years - and it seems many States have reciprocity too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_License_Compact
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 09:15 AM
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"If this becomes an epidemic across Europe, it will discourage visitors from renting cars."
Or encourage them to respect the laws of the country they visit
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Yes, I can see whether exceeding the speed limit by a few miles an hour is akin to child molestation and murder.

And oh the hypocrisy, that people sheepishly pay any fine whether justified or not.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 09:25 AM
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Reciprocity agreements between cities in Canada and the US and the Drivers License Compact are not the same. The DLC is only used within the 45 States that have opted to enforce it, mostly for major violations.

Getting someone from Canada to pay a traffic fine in Washington State requires an act of Congress, and we all know how much work Congress accomplishes in a given year.

Unless it's a major traffic offense, the Canadian violator can come and go a will, the US Border Patrol will not be aware of any pending minor traffic tickets. They have other things to worry about, like all the illegals slipping across the border, most in plain sight.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 09:33 AM
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Why the hell are we getting dragged into a US v Canada conversation here. The OP asked about a possible speeding ticket he might get in Spain, and how to resolve that.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 09:39 AM
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No, he's asking about a speeding ticket he GOT. It slays me that adults--well old enough to know better--will claim a ticket is "unjustified" if they were only speeding a little. Well, guys, that's like being a little bit pregnant--either you were speeding or you weren't.

I agree that if you can prove the valet had the car when the ticket was issued, you should dispute it. If not, let your conscience be your guide; friends of ours have ignored a European speeding ticket without consequences (although the rental car company will be harder to ignore).
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 09:57 AM
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"Yes, I can see whether exceeding the speed limit by a few miles an hour is akin to child molestation and murder. "

A few miles might make the difference between killing a human being or not. Paying a fine is the price foreigners have to pay for breaking the law. Locals incur the fine plus the possible loss of their driving licence.

In your opinion how many miles above the speed limit should one be allowed to drive ? Should the law be also applied to DUI? After all, one more drink isn't going to make much difference, is it?
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 09:58 AM
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Yes, I oftern compare speeding and pregnancy. I have three little Volvos and a Saab on the way.

The absurd and false comparisons. Courts often throw out speeding violations if the machines recording violations have not been calibrated during a certain period and do you honestly think every car's speedometer is perfectly calibrated. Please let's have a dose of reality here, not self-righteousness.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 10:13 AM
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In France, they remove 10 km/h from the speed recorded by the radar cameras, just to be nice. So when you get a ticket for going 3 km/h over the speed limit, it means that you were actually going 13 km/h over the limit. This is clearly marked on the ticket, but some people whine and whimper anyway about only having been 3 km/h over the limit. If they deducted 20 km/h from your actual speed, these same people would still protest.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 10:20 AM
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Last year a speeding driver killed two cyclists in the town I live in. Seven children were left fatherless by this incident.

If a speedometer is faulty then the driver needs to take that into account and drive considerably under the limit to be on the safe side IMO.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 10:43 AM
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We are not talking about speeding at breakneck speeds or drunk driving, we are talking driving a bit over the limit.

People get killed by cars driving at under the speed limit and today the growing cause of accidents are people texting.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 10:46 AM
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>>>We just received via mail a ticket>>I'd be interested to know what happens at US state borders or indeed do Canadians get chased down for their US traffic violations.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 10:47 AM
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"me thinks he doth protest too much" ;-)
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 11:02 AM
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If you referring to me, I have been driving almost 50 years I have only gotten speeding ticket in the States and that is when I was 18 and deserved it.

It is just the people that complain that the salad fork was missing are the same one who are self-righteous when it comes to others.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 11:13 AM
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The Netherlands automatically reduces the measured speed by about 10%, to allow for your speedometer being incorrect. The speed cameras are regularly tested.

Of course all European countries only send fines to Americans in hired vehicles. They make so much money from that there is no need to fine the locals. Except for the fine DH got last week for going @ 135 in a 120 zone. It's a 130 zone at night, but his right foot is heavy and fines are not unusual sadly.

OP, normally the registered holder of the vehicle, you in this case, has to pay the fine. If you can prove conclusively that it was the valet parking service you could either fight the fine, or demand repayment from the parking company.
I guess it depends on the amount involved whether it is worth the hassle of doing so or not.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 11:33 AM
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IMDonehere tells yet another great Saab story.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 11:45 AM
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And how much exactly is going *a bit* over the speed limit?
As others tried to explain over and over and over again, the speed cameras are set to allow *a bit* of an error in favor of the driver.
So if you get caught going 120 in a 100kph speed zone, your odometer has shown appr. 130kph.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 11:58 AM
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Cold, I thought you were after some woman's Volvo.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Just finished 8 days of driving in France and detecting the current speed limit was not always easy. Had to assign a child passenger the job of monitoring it, and it changed frequently and there were often 4 speed limits simultaneously: 1 for trucks, 1 for camper vans, 1 for cars in dry pavement and a fourth for cars in the rain.
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Old Aug 4th, 2014, 12:31 PM
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Why was it so difficult? The signs are clear enough on French motorways. You know what type of vehicle you are driving so know what sign to look for. You can also see if it is raining or not.
It is your responsibility to read the signs and know what they mean.
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