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GSteed Sep 4th, 2007 02:16 AM

permit of stay - Italy?
Who has acquired this permit to enable stay of more than 8 business days in Italy?

ira Sep 4th, 2007 05:48 AM


If you are a US citizen, you can stay up to 90 days without a permit.

Surely, your visit is for "pleasure", is it not?


kybourbon Sep 4th, 2007 05:50 AM

You've already asked this same question. To find your other post, click on your screen name.

Steve_James Sep 4th, 2007 06:36 AM

Hi GS - If you really do need a permesso di soggiorno, all I can say is ... heaven help you.

Unless the system's changed since I lived there, getting one can be a real P in the A ...


nytraveler Sep 4th, 2007 11:12 AM

How are you defining "working" in Italy. If you are working for a company in another country that is having a meeting or event in Italy - but being paid in the other country - you are not "working" in Italy. (If this is the case you enter and stay on a tourist visa - since you are not being paid anything in Italy.)

"Working" in Italy is being employed long-term by a company with offices in Italy and paid in euros in Italy.

If this is the case - then the company employing you should be taking care of this paperwork on your behalf.

TuckH Sep 4th, 2007 11:53 AM

From the expats in Italy website, this is what I believe GSteed is referring to...

As of March 25, 2007:
The PdiS [Permesso di Soggiorno] is not just for those who are planning on moving to Italy but for anyone who will be in Italy for more than 8 days. Basically, every foreign national needs to register at the police station. If you are staying in a hotel or vacation rental, they should register you themselves (this is why they record the information on your passport when you check in). If staying with family, friends or at your own residence, they you need to go to the local questura and do so within 8 business days of arriving. Do not assume that because your passport is not stamped that you have more time.

stefm Sep 4th, 2007 12:38 PM

According to the latest dispositions (July 2007), a Permesso di Soggiorno is not necessary anymore for a stay up to 90 days, if you have a Schengen visa.

Of course, if you don't stay in a hotel or other managed accommodation, but you are a guest in somebody's house, you are still required to notify your presence to the local Police station within 8 days.

If you stay in a hotel, rented apartment, etc... your hosts will take care of this notification for you.

GSteed Sep 5th, 2007 09:40 AM

Once more: 1. A tourist is allowed a 90 day stay in Italy without a visa. 2. He/she is allowed the first 8 business days without a 'permit of stay'. Please comment if you have stayed more than the 8 business days without getting the permit (permesso di soggiorno).

flanneruk Sep 5th, 2007 10:20 AM

"1. A tourist is allowed a 90 day stay in Italy without a visa. 2. He/she is allowed the first 8 business days without a 'permit of stay'"

is absolutely NOT what the Polizia di Stato website (last updated in mid August) says:

"Gli stranieri che intendono soggiornare in Italia per più di tre mesi, devono richiedere il permesso di soggiorno.

Chi arriva in Italia per la prima volta ha 8 giorni di tempo per chiedere il permesso di soggiorno."

The only foreigners, the site says, who need a permesso di soggiorno are those intending staying over 90 days. Which means, for non-EU citizens (there are NO rules applying to all tourists: most foreign tourists in Italy are citizens of EU countries) tourists with an over-90 days Schengen visa.

flanneruk Sep 5th, 2007 10:22 AM

PS: For the avoidance of doubt:

"Gli stranieri che vengono in Italia per visite, affari, turismo e studio per periodi non superiori ai tre mesi, non devono chiedere il permesso di soggiorno."

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