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Need help in getting to section 10 in Paris once we arrive at ORLY Airport. Four a family of four what is the least expensive route or mode of transportation?

regards

tc

Hi tc,

See http://europeforvisitors.com/paris/a...sportation.htm

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A taxi might be easiest and not too expensive. Should be about 20E for all.

A taxi is likely to cost closer to E40, not E20, plus a supplement for each piece of luggage.

A private car service (like parishuttle.com, paris-airport-shuttle.com, beeshuttle.com, and others) would be your most convenient choice.

But you asked for the least expensive mode. If you're traveling light and don't mind schlepping your luggage, do this: Take the free Aeroports de Paris shuttle to the Pont de Rungis-Aeroport d'Orly RER station. Take the RER C to central Paris and transfer as needed to another RER line and/or Metro line. The cost is E3.45 for adults and E1.70 for children 4-10. Even if you're traveling light, this requires a fair amount of effort and many people on this board will recommend against it after an all-night flight, particularly if this is your first trip to Paris and you're not familiar with the RER and Metro system.

The RER is very economical, but it is not the cheapest mode.

The absolute rock-bottom cost is to ride the N&deg; 285 bus to Villejuif Louis Aragon, or the N&deg; 183 to Porte de Choisy. At either stop you can join the M&eacute;tro network to your destination. THe bus and M&eacute;tro rides each cost one <i>ticket 't'</i>.

If you will post the address you're going to, we can design a route for you.

http://www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan...285&amp;fm=pdf
http://www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan...183&amp;fm=pdf

One more thing. The cheap route will go more smoothly if you map it out in advance. Visit www.ratp.fr to download and print a Metro/RER map for central Paris and and a RER map that shows service to outlying zones. Use the Journey Planner on the RATP site to give you a suggested route from Orly to the Metro station closest to your hotel.

Yes, that 20 euro taxi fare is not going to happen. Our taxi fare for two with two pieces of luggage from Orly to the fifth on a Saturday mid day with virtually NO traffic was 21.90. It would be a whole lot more to the 10th even before the extra person and extra luggage fees.

Ours to the 7th was close to it--as is 21.90, for heavens' sake. Anything is possible.
It is 4 people--probably children. Convenience may pay off also.

Hmmm. Family of 4. Jetbus will take you to the end of line 7 of the metro for 5.50 &euro; (adult fare) and then metro line 7 will take you to various places in the 10th arrondissement. Pretty long trip, but very easy.

I'm not following you Gretchen. Sure, you can get from Orly to the 5th or 7th for around 20 euro, but we're talking about the 10th here. Are you aware where the 10th is? Several miles through the bulk of the city traffic after going by the 5th and 7th. As TimS said, closer to 40 euro. I'm not knocking the idea of a taxi which still may be best for convenience -- but tcmazz didn't ask about that -- only &quot;the least expensive&quot; and a taxi ain't it!

right, I don't think it is possible to get to the 10th from Orly for 20 euro for a family of four with luggage. I think the poster needs realistic information to make a decision, that's all. I don't really think that would even be possible for a single person.

It seems that taking Orly VAL, the elevated people mover to RER Line B Antony station then a straight shot to Gare du Nord and the 10th would be the easiest way. Going via RER C requires shuttle bus to RER C station outside airport and then transfering once again someplace, probably at Notre-Dame St-Michel. Seems faster and easier via Orly VAL then RER B

Yes, the Orlyval-RER B into central Paris would be faster than the RER C route. However it costs more and the OP asked for the cheapest route.

I've always wondered why they call Orly<u>VAL</u>. It certainly isn't for <u>val</u>ue, because the 6-minute ride costs &euro;7,20. I guess &quot;OrlyRIPOFF&quot; wouldn't fit on the signs.

The map of choice for visualizing RER and M&eacute;tro lines is this:

http://www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan...eur&amp;fm=pdf

O'k Lets rephrase the question, the fastest way is by taxi at a cost 40eurs. Is there anything that is half that cost without adding an additional hour to travel?
4 people with luggage in tow still 40eurs? Or is it now more like 50eurs.
Also is the tip automatically included on the bill or is this up to the individual rider?

thanks tc

Yeah. The package ticket on the OrlyVAL + RER B + M&eacute;tro is &euro;9,10 for adults, &euro;4,55 for age 4 to 10.

This includes the OrlyVAL ticket plus an RER ticket that will get you to your destination M&eacute;tro station.

If you want to go the shuttle bus + RER C + M&eacute;tro route, the (inclusive) ticket is &euro;5,75 or &euro;4,00. Probably about the same time frame as the taxi.

What M&eacute;tro is near your hotel? If you're lucky, you'll be able to reach it with one transfer.

First, a taxi is NOT the fastest way to get to the 10e arrondissement. A taxi will have to pass through the congested center of Paris. The Orlyval/RER B combination will get you to central Paris in about 35 minutes. The shuttle bus/RER C will do the same in about 50 minutes, but for less money (see my post above). Add another 15 minutes to get to the metro station closest to your hotel.

Robespierre - I'm sure you're right about the fare for the RER C + Metro route. The fare I found at transilien.com seemed too low to me. Do you know why the &quot;billet par trajet&quot; calculator on the site shows a figure of E3.45 for Pont de Rungis to any station in central Paris? Where did you find the E5.75 fare?

Thanks for all your help the hotel
Exact location is just 200 metres from Gare de l'Est railway station.

Please tell me the route you recommend!

Thanks again tc

Jetbus + line 7 will take you directly to Gare de l'Est with no change of metro.

So I take, The Jetbus (is this a bus or a train?) get off at Villejuif-Louis Aragon station and hop on the Metro Line 7, (which I gathering is a underground subway). And the Metro Line 7 should take me to the Gare de l'Est railway station.
That's what I understand from reading the below. Than that means there will be two cost one for the Jetbus and one for the Metro Line 7, correct?

The Jetbus (RATP line 285) runs every 12 to 15 minutes and connects both terminals with the Villejuif-Louis Aragon station of M&eacute;tro Line 7 on the southern edge of Paris. This may be more convenient than Orlybus if you're staying near the Opera Garnier, since you can get to the Opera station without changing trains. It's a few cents cheaper than the Orlybus at &euro;5,40.

regards tc

Yes, the Jetbus is just a shuttle bus that runs from Orly to the end of line 7 -- 2 different tickets.

Apologies, mislocated Orly quite badly. I still think even 40E for strangers to Paris is not a bad investment unless they are very accustomed to navigating subway/public transport systems.

Yes, the JetBus is cheap and (fairly) fast - as I said at 9:50 yesterday morning. But see* below.
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The RER C fares I quoted are on the RATP site:

http://www.ratp.info/orienter/aeroports.php

I, too, am puzzled why the transilien site gives a different number.
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* tcmazz1 might also want to factor in the cost/benefit of acquiring an RATP pass such as <i>Mobilis</i> or <i>Carte Orange</i>. Once it's paid for, the trip from the end of Ligne 7 to the hotel is &quot;free&quot; (or, at least paid for) - but only if you take the 183 bus to Porte de Choisy, because the JetBus terminus is in Zone 3, and therefore not covered by the usual two-zone pass tourists use. Porte de Choisy is in Zone 2.

Robes: VAL is the name of the type of automated metro trains - not sure what the letters stand for but is used on similar conveyances in other parts of France. Agree that 7 e is steep - this i believe is a private operation and not a part of RATP but not sure. But for folks with luggage especially it's more easier as you take your luggage cart right up to the Orly VAL in the terminals and the transfer is smooth as possible at Antony. Gare du Nord? Well that's a bit chaotic for sure especially for novices. But the RER C way, which i've taken you have to get the navette bus and then wait at the very shabby RER C Rungis station and ride the usual old single floor train cars to St Michel for another confusing change for novices. So if cost is not a factor B is better than C, depending on where you're going of course. The Jet Bus seems very good, however and could be the easiest, if not quickest.

It was designed as a fully automated VAL (V&eacute;hicule Automatique L&eacute;ger) system based on the successful model previously established in the northern French city of Lille.
VAL comprises driverless (automatic) rubber-tyred vehicles, using technology devised by Professor Robert Gabillard for Matra's 1983 metro in Lille. Platforms are separated from passengers by a glass partition to prevent them falling or straying, while doors embedded in these see-through barriers open in synchrony with train doors.

Robespierre - Here's one more question for you. If a single Metro ticket is sufficient to get to a station at the end of the line that is in zone 3, why wouldn't the same be true for someone using a zones 1-2 Carte Orange (for Metro stations, at least, if not RER stations)?

M&eacute;tro tickets are valid anywhere the tracks go, regardless of zone. Some of them wind up in Zone 3.

Passes are valid only in their designated zones.

tc - After all this discussion, here's what it comes down to for economical routes:
1. Jetbus for E5.50 (if there is a child's fare, I don't know what it is) + Metro line 7 for E1.40. Only one transfer.
2. Free shuttle bus to RER C station + RER ticket (E5.75 adult, E4.00 child) which is also good on the Metro so long as you don't exit the system. Take the RER C to Gare d'Austerlitz and transfer to Metro line 5 which goes directly to Gare de l'Est. Two transfers altogether.

Of course, if you buy a carnet of 10 metro tickets, it brings the price of the metro ticket down to 1.08 &euro;.

Least expensive:

City bus N&deg; 183 to Porte de Choisy - one <i>ticket 't'</i> &euro;1.40 (or &euro;1.09 in a <i>carnet</i>)

M&eacute;tro to hotel - RATP pass or one <i>ticket 't'</i> &euro;1.40 (or &euro;1.09 in a <i>carnet</i>)

Children (under 11 I think) - half price.

Kerouac and Robespierre - Your points are well taken. Howver, since the OP said he was unfamiliar with the Paris transportation system, I was trying to sum things up and give him two simple but fairly fast options without going into the details about carnets, passes, etc. And Robespierre, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a half-price ride for children 4-10 is only available by buying a tarif reduit carnet. I don't think you can buy a single child's ticket.

True - but getting on a bus and changing to a M&eacute;tro isn't rocket science. Ligne 7 goes right to Gare de l'Est. Here's a map of the transfer. The bus stop is 20 steps west of the M&eacute;tro entrance:

http://www.ratp.info/picts/plans/pdf...rte_choisy.pdf