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StuDudley Oct 23rd, 2023 02:05 PM

We've spent 4 pre-Christmases in Paris. It is our favorite time to be there. Kerouac posted a list of all the streets that were lit-up by special Christmas lights - and we explored them all. One pre-Christmas in London - which we didn't enjoy as much as Paris.

Stu Dudley

susankosinski7093 Oct 23rd, 2023 02:52 PM

Can you send link to his post - cannot seem to find it. Many thanks!

Michael Oct 23rd, 2023 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by Seamus (Post 17503874)
My first visit to Versailles was during an American Thanksgiving weekend forced layover due to flights cancelled because of severe winter weather. It was really pretty treacherous with everything covered in ice (you haven't lived until you try walking on ice covered cobblestones!) and quite cold so we did not stroll through the gardens but enjoyed touring the uncrowded castle. We also stopped in the town for some delicious hot chocolate (there is now an Angelina's right at the castle, I believe) and enjoyed the local merchants' association coordinated holiday decorations.

Was that in 1993?

shelemm Oct 24th, 2023 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by StuDudley (Post 17503755)
""" You don't need a tour for Versailles, they have audioguides.""

You need to book a "human" tour for the Kings Apartments, if you want to see them. If there are huge crowds at Versailles (we've never visited Versailles in Dec), starting the visit at the King's Apartments will avoid the long lines at the "regular" entrance to the castle (1 1/2 hr wait on a Sat in October when we were last there). There is a separate entrance for the gardens & fountains.

Note that Paris is farther north than anyplace in the continental USA. Farther north than Quebec City, Canada too.

Stu Dudley

Comparing latitudes from North America is pointless. Rome with its palm trees has a very different climate from Boston. And the combo of dampness and cold in Montreal is very different (and more depressing) from Paris. Double the amount of precipitation in December!

shelemm Oct 24th, 2023 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by dfourh (Post 17505198)
Super insight Kerouac. And some cities use lights brilliantly to make your time a succession of warm cafes to stunning medieval walls to dappling Xmas fairly lights in windows to hazy warmth from wine bars - - it can be an enchantment. My best experience in winter was Ghent - - they illuminate by placing lights on the outside of ancient building pointed back toward the building, so there is an exploding splay back from the character wherever you go. Though Bologna in winter is a moody marvel, too. Here in Hamburg people used the most delicate of lights in all the windows over the darkest days - - it's so charmed. I'd be really interested to hear people's favorite winter cities where everything is a warm spangled wonder.

You can still see many of these things in the summer. They simply occur a bit later. 'Son et lumiere' take place in the summer! The best of both worlds....

The most important thing that happens in the off season are the cultural opportunities in cities like theatre, though even that is replaced by festivals in the hinterlands.

StuDudley Oct 24th, 2023 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by susankosinski7093 (Post 17505210)
Can you send link to his post - cannot seem to find it. Many thanks!

It was before our 2009 trip - a long time ago and it's probably hard to find the post now.

Stu Dudley

kerouac Oct 24th, 2023 10:53 AM

Regarding Christmas lights, besides obvious places like the Champs Elysées where they were already stringing Christmas lights in the trees in September, various merchant associations finance the lights in the main shopping streets, like rue Montorgueil, the Grands Boulevards, rue Saint Charles, avenue Secrétan and rue de Sèvres, to name just a few. On top of that, the city of Paris generally chooses a different street in every arrondissement to help finance decorations exceptionally. My street was decorated just once, in 1999, and there were a few strings of light at the main intersection once or twice after that, but the merchant association cannot be counted on for that since most of the shopa and restaurants in my area are Muslim, Indian or Chinese.


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