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Old Jun 23rd, 2020, 08:21 AM
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Here's its history, with few activities that would involve children at the beginning:"French city-dwellers traditionally escape to the seaside or the countryside during the summer, especially in August. Paris is avoided, as the weather is unpleasantly hot and humid, and the centre has many tourists. Nevertheless, each summer many residents are obliged to remain in the city, however reluctantly. The Paris-Plages scheme was instigated in 2002 by Bertrand Delanoë, the newly elected Socialist Party mayor, as a haven for relieving the misery of those cooped up in the sweltering city.

Initially [my emphasis] there was a single beach on the Rive Droite. In 2006 a second beach was added on the Rive Gauche, and the scheme's name changed from singular to plural.[1] Unlike many beaches in France, topless sunbathing is not permitted. Swimming in the Seine is also not permitted, for safety reasons.[2]

The scheme has proven a major success; the number of visitors has grown each year and topped four million in 2007. Every season, new features are added.[2] These include a shuttle ferry linking the two riverbanks, a floating swimming pool, and another beach area at La Villette, in the northeast corner of the city."
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Old Jun 23rd, 2020, 08:59 AM
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Also, the Villette section of Paris Plages used to last longer than along the Seine because the Right Bank expressway had to be cleared to reopen for motor traffic by mid-August. But now that it is closed permanently, they can extend it as long as they want.
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Old Jun 24th, 2020, 10:24 AM
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We have deleted several posts. The topic of this thread is current situation in Paris - not a debate on how various countries are or are not addressing the pandemic.
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Old Jun 24th, 2020, 10:46 AM
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Don't delete too much. We travel to Europe twice a year for 1 month each. I am relying on posts like this to provide me with info regarding the virus spread, and what various countries are doing about it. IMO, we get a lot if mis-information from our "leaders" here in the US. It is helpful to obtain "on-hand" info, observations, & opinions from people living in other countries.

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Old Jun 24th, 2020, 10:51 AM
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Don't delete too much. We travel to Europe twice a year for 1 month each. I am relying on posts like this to provide me with info regarding the virus spread, and what various countries are doing about it. IMO, we get a lot if mis-information from our "leaders" here in the US. It is helpful to obtain "on-hand" info, observations, & opinions from people living in other countries.

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IMHO there are a lot of ways to get info on other countries w/o tacking on to a thread specifically about the current situation in Paris . . . Like starting a thread and asking
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Old Jun 24th, 2020, 12:59 PM
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""IMHO there are a lot of ways to get info on other countries""

I do both. The more sources - the better. StCirq can explain the extent of social distancing/masks/restaurants in the Dordogne, and Kerouac can do the same for Paris. Pictures on TV, the papers, or on the internet often only depict the "extremes", IMO.

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Old Jun 24th, 2020, 10:47 PM
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Mod - You have indeed deleted too much. Specifically information about when the EU will open its international borders. It is the EU Commission in Brussels that is deciding to which countries their international borders will open and that decision is, by their own admission, contingent upon a country's infection rate.

As of now, the reopening of Paris, the subject of this thread, will not include those from the USA and when they will be able to visit Paris again is of considerable importance to your readers.

Overzealous deletions can kill interest in a forum.
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 01:46 AM
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I agree that there was no reason for the deletions. A lot of people are interested in what is happening in Paris, for sure. What is happening in Paris regarding the simple ability to get there is tied to the simple ability to get into France, which in turn is tied to the simple ability to get into any EU country.There was absolutely no harm done by pointing people to reliable sources of information about what measures the EU is/may be adopting as far as border restrictions, whether entry into the EU as a whole, entry into certain countries, or passage between and among EU countries.

This will only dampen the enthusiasm of those of us who live in Europe from posting what's going on at the moment.

I hope the mods don't expect Fodorites who live in Europe to limit their posts to individual commentaries on each and every country/city as the requests arise about travel restrictions. Not only is that ridiculous, as such decisions will be made by the European Commission for all countries, but that would be asking way too much from volunteers.
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 01:52 AM
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The mods are probably going crazy with almost nothing to do, which would explain their excessive zeal.
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 06:45 AM
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Really bad decision by you to delete valuable posts.

Our neighbors are scheduled to visit Paris in August - and are somewhat internet illiterate. I was going to "clip" the graphs that Sarastro (I think) posted that compared the EU virus infection rate to the US rate, so that our neighbors could understand why the EU is not allowing US visitors into the EU yet.

You terminated the post about the "Virus in France" saying that info was being repeated - but it wasn't. Every week there is new info about the virus and new info about how the EU & France are reacting to the virus. Now, there is absolutely no information that I could find on Fodors about the EU lifting it's borders on July 1 - but not to visitors from the US. That's critical info - which supersedes (for me) into about Paris Plage or social distancing in Paris.

Fewer people are participating in the Fodors Forum these days. Your actions discourage the remaining participants from continuing to post valuable info. You are killing Fodors.

Put it back - if you can.

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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 07:04 AM
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Saw on TV that Eiffel Tower is to reopen, but only the second level will be accessible.

would be interesting to see how the queues will be compared to normal.
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 07:47 AM
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Stu - The link I posted was to a NYTimes article referencing what the UE is deciding this week in Brussels about allowing entry into the EU to those from outside. Early information is that those from the USA will not be allowed entry into the EU for the 1 July opening. Of course those from the USA will be given access at a later date, supposedly at a time when Brussels believes that infection rates in the USA are no greater than they are in the EU.

It is not clear that entry will be given to those from the USA by August. It probably will be open but there are no guarantees. Infection rates in the USA must drop and the current trend is not favorable.
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 08:02 AM
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**Infection rates in the USA must drop and the current trend is not favorable.**

Yep. Here in California, we hit a new daily record for infections yesterday.

I thought the two graphs comparing the US & EU told the story. Can you repost them - if you are the person who originally posted the graph. We'll see if the Mods delete it again!!

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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 08:15 AM
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I would be interested to see how busy hotels, restaurants and tourist attractions are in Paris, now that visitors from other EU countries are permitted, with UK likely at the start of July.

I read an account of an Austrian driving down to Venice this past weekend and finding most of the city empty, even though Italy has been open since around the beginning of the month.

Maybe Europeans don't go on Holiday until August?

Would be interesting to see if Paris or other popular tourist destinations are anywhere near normal levels of tourist traffic.
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 08:32 AM
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Is this what you're looking for, Stu?

https://sanjuanislander.com/news-art...ed-covid-cases
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 09:37 AM
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Maybe Europeans don't go on Holiday until August?
Would be interesting to see if Paris or other popular tourist destinations are anywhere near normal levels of tourist traffic.
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""Is this what you're looking for, Stu?""

Yep - that's it.. Thanks, M

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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 01:50 PM
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Tour Eiffel now has 4,000-5,000 visitors per day, compared to 23,000 a day normally this time of year. No elevators; you have to walk up. Masks required. Only 1st and 2nd levels open.
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Old Jun 25th, 2020, 03:03 PM
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One account of Paris after the lockdown:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/w...now/index.html

Says US and UK tourists comprise the most foreign tourists among the 38 million visitors per year.

Last year, Americans accounted for 2.56 million "hotel arrivals."

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Originally Posted by scrb11 View Post
One account of Paris after the lockdown:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/w...now/index.html

Says US and UK tourists comprise the most foreign tourists among the 38 million visitors per year.

Last year, Americans accounted for 2.56 million "hotel arrivals."
you think that gives you or any American a "right" to visit Europe?
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