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clairobscur Apr 12th, 2004 07:04 AM

He won't need a jacket/tie, except in upscale restaurants.

Last time I had a dinner out with a tie was several months ago, and it was purely because I was coming back from an appointment.

SuzieC Apr 12th, 2004 07:20 AM

Rolled up long sleeves just LOOK more handsome. There is not a set of male arms that benefit from short sleeved dress shirts.
in my humble American opinion

jody Apr 12th, 2004 08:35 AM

IMO...there is no such thing as a short-sleeved DRESS shirt...Short sleeves are sport shirts.

elle Apr 12th, 2004 10:01 AM


And never, ever, ever--not under any circumstances, at any time of year, in any place, or for any reason--wear a short-sleeved shirt with a tie.

(Unless maybe you've been invited to a retro costume party and you're going as an insurance salesman, circa 1955.)

Underhill Apr 12th, 2004 12:24 PM

Or as a missionary in a warm-weather area???

SuzieC Apr 12th, 2004 12:52 PM

Awwwright, Missionaries can. I won't be so crabby with them. Their "lot" is hard enough, I imagine.
(personal aside: I was at a party a few years ago, and other guests were an abundance of missionaries from Belgium, assigned to what was then the Congo. They came here to Delaware to get used to the heat and humidity!!!!>????)

Patrick Apr 12th, 2004 02:19 PM

If I worry about impressing others with how I look, I might wear a long sleeve shirt and roll up the sleeves. But if it is really hot and humid, I'd be a whole lot more comfortable in a short sleeve shirt -- those rolled up sleeves are not cooling -- with several layers over the inside of your elbow -- the point that you could normally put cool water on to lower your body temp. So if it comes to being comfortable in hot, miserable, muggy weather, or suffering along so I will look nicer for other people whom I plan to never see again -- I'll wear the short sleeve shirt, thank you.

Now, please don't misinterpret what I've just said. I'm sure some will turn this around and say something like "so, you'd wear a swimsuit and tank top if that is more comfortable." Duh.

uuhhhh Apr 12th, 2004 02:32 PM

"And never, ever, ever--not under any circumstances, at any time of year, in any place, or for any reason--wear a short-sleeved shirt with a tie.

(Unless maybe you've been invited to a retro costume party and you're going as an insurance salesman, circa 1955.)"

or, you're a mormon missionary...

SalB Apr 12th, 2004 02:34 PM

My husband in summer often wears a short sleeve "dress" shirt with a tie under his sport coat. Who can tell the sleeve length under a sport coat? It's cooler. We live in SoCal.

At least I discovered why we always get to sit by the front window in Paris restaurants . . . It's hubby's suit coat or sport coat. He always wears one. It's worth it for the view! Who knew?!

TrendGirl Apr 12th, 2004 04:18 PM

We are here to help and guide you c2. Elle is right,Pl-e-a-s-e-- do not wear a short sleeve shirt with a tie.
I suggest to your husband, to take "the jacket." If you decide to have all casual meals, he doesn't have to wear the jacket, and if you decide to go somewhere a little less informal, at least he will be prepared.


ThinGorjus Apr 12th, 2004 05:21 PM

You are on holiday, it is August, let your husband wear a short-sleeved shirt if just going to a casual restaurant. I always write to dress appropriately for your venue. Unless you are going to Pre-Catalan or Violon d'Ingres, there is no need to wear a coat and tie in the heat of August. My god, I have worn jeans to Costes.

I do not agree about the short-sleeve shirt not being worn in Europe. I see it all the time. If you aren't trying to impress anyone, why worry about it?

Relax, you are on holiday.

elle Apr 13th, 2004 05:23 AM


I have to confess that I really like those loose short-sleeved shirts that you used to see exclusively on older Cuban men, but now seem to be popping up everywhere. Just saw some in T. J. Maxx in Wilmington, Delaware. What are they called--"guarabana" or something like that? Do men in other Spanish-speaking countries (where they know from hot)wear them?

selltile Apr 13th, 2004 07:07 AM

I'm with SusyC--short sleeved shirts look like you need a fix from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy--rolled up long sleeves at the right hieght look very sexy

SoBeTraveller Apr 13th, 2004 07:19 AM

short sleeves, with a jacket, is just as acceptable as long sleeves, but is a cubana front ruffle okay in a warmer month, or is that striclty cooler fare?

hopscotch Apr 13th, 2004 07:22 AM



The Paris dress code is no code. However, a jacket and slacks will get you better respect from everyone serving you, whether in cafes or restaurants. If it's too warm in the place take the jacket off. A long sleeved shirt would look better at that point. There is no need for a tie.

SiobhanP Apr 13th, 2004 07:23 AM

I do not see a need for a tie unless you were at the top spectrum of restaurants. My other half never ever wears a tie unless he is travelling on business and has meetings. Sports jacket and shirt is perfrctly fine. You probably will not need the jacket anyway in August.

As for the sleeves. Just a personal preference, I feel they are not as popular from what I have seen over here and I think longer sleeves is just nicer dressed. And you should completely ignore me as you should dress in what feels good to you! :-)

TrendGirl Apr 13th, 2004 07:24 AM

It is "all about style" and having the right LOOK. Yes, it is a sexy more stylish look when a man rolls up his long sleeves on the shirt. But, there are some great looking Men's shirts with some "style happening" that are short sleeved. The key is remember it is 2004 and wear something that is current with how fashions are NOW.

SuzieC Apr 13th, 2004 01:08 PM

Elle? Imagine...fashion right here in Wilmington, Delaware!? That's where I am! But of course, I'm jaded and cynical by all the banker boys in white shirts...


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