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tcinct Dec 27th, 2008 11:26 AM

Paris-baking powder?
 
Hi,
Did our research here for many hours for our first trip to Paris! So here we are! Our first mistake was buying buttermilk when we thought we were buying milk at the Monoprix around the corner from where we are staying. No problem, we thought we'll make buttermilk pancakes for breakfast. We need baking powder and searched for the translation and came up with levain en poudre on a translator service online. We go back to the Monoprix where we are getting to be a couple of regulars and they sell us levure chimique which I think might be brewer's yeast? Though we can find baking soda, we've had no luck finding cream of tartar to go with it as a substitute. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Gretchen Dec 27th, 2008 11:35 AM

Maybe go out for breakfast? ;o)

tcinct Dec 27th, 2008 11:41 AM

That might work, Gretchen, lol!

Michael Dec 27th, 2008 11:45 AM

When I was a child, my mother went to the boulangerie to get the <i>levure</i>; but that was a long time ago.

Pvoyageuse Dec 27th, 2008 12:14 PM

Levure chimique will be fine. It usually contains sodium bicarbonate.

Levain is fermented flour paste used for making bread (yeast?)

tcinct Dec 27th, 2008 12:24 PM

Wow, Michael, what a place to live as a child!
Thank you for your response, Pvoyageuse, we'll give that a try!

ira Dec 27th, 2008 12:25 PM

Hi tc,

&gt;Though we can find baking soda, we've had no luck finding cream of tartar to go with it ...&lt;

COT provides acidity to make the soda fizz.
If you have buttermilk, you don't need cream of tartar.

((I))

Carlux Dec 27th, 2008 01:03 PM

Levure chimique is the French equivalent of baking powder. I use it for all my baking here.

Levure du boulanger is yeast for making bread.

I'm surprised that you got buttermilk in Monoprix. I don't find it here at all in the Perigord. Is it really lait fermente, sometimes known as babeurre?

Bon Courage


Pvoyageuse Dec 27th, 2008 01:12 PM

Babeurre is not lait ferment&eacute;, it is the white liquid (sometimes called lait de beurre) that remains after making butter. It is used to feed animals.
Monoprix sells lait ferment&eacute;, sometimes called kefir. It is usually sold with fresh milk.

hetismij Dec 28th, 2008 01:12 AM

Babeurre is buttermilk I thought?

hetismij Dec 28th, 2008 01:13 AM

Sorry, that was awful English, been speaking Dutch non stop for days and am having trouble switching back.

ira Dec 28th, 2008 03:49 AM

Hi het,

What most folks call &quot;buttermilk&quot; in English is actually cultured fermented milk.

In the olden days, folks spoke of &quot;sweet milk&quot; and &quot;buttermilk&quot; to differentiate the two.

PV is correct. True buttermilk is the liquid left over from churning butter.

((I))

sueciv Dec 28th, 2008 05:57 AM

Buttermilk makes a nice &quot;fresh&quot; cheese too. Warm it up, add vinegar, watch the curds form; drain it (cheesecloth is what cheesecloth &quot;is&quot;). I'd bet a coffee filter would work too.
Check the consistancy if it pleases you after the whey stops dripping; taste it, add salt
Dress this mass with olive oil and black pepper, (any herbs you like from the street market OMG I wish I was there!) a fresh baguette and a good bottle of your favorite beverage!
...(some people would add heavy cream to the curds after they're drained = cottage cheese)

kerouac Dec 28th, 2008 08:19 AM

Buttermilk at Monoprix? Wow. Mine has fermented milk, goat's milk and laban but I have never seen buttermilk.

Levure chimique is also sometimes called levure alsacienne (and I believe that l'Alsacienne is the main brand for it).

tcinct Dec 29th, 2008 01:07 AM

Hi Ira-I've always learned a lot from your trip reports, thank you!
Bonjour Kerouac and Carlux-the product I bought was lait ribot. I found out what it was from Patricia Well's glossary pages that I learned about from the forums here.
The buttermilk pancakes were a hit!
Thanks again for all your helpful responses!
Merci beaucoup!

petitepois Dec 29th, 2008 01:23 AM

Actually, I buy buttermilk at Monoprix all the time. It's called &quot;lait ribot&quot; and is in the refrigerated milk section -- comes in small milk bottles, so perhaps this is why the OP made the mistake? It's delicious all by itself!

amahoro Dec 21st, 2011 09:44 AM

hi
You can buy butter milk in carrefour auchan the nama is ' lait fermenté "
baking soda bicarbonade de soduim you can buy it at auchan
baking powder: levure chimique

kerouac Dec 21st, 2011 10:36 AM

And so 4 years later, I will confirm that on the multilingual cartons of "lait fermenté" which every supermarket sells, the English translation reads "buttermilk."

Cathinjoetown Dec 21st, 2011 11:19 AM

Cake flour (farine de gateau) w

Cathinjoetown Dec 21st, 2011 11:20 AM

...works well if you can't find baking powder.

Wonder if buttermilk would make good French toast, pain perdu?


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