Question about the name Wengen
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Question about the name Wengen
Does anyone know if Wengen was ever spelled "Wengue" hundreds of years ago? I recently found out one of my grandmothers had ancestors from the Alsace region (Bischwiller) and before that, from "Wengue, in the Canton of Berne"
Curious, if anyone knows if there is still a Wengue somewhere else in Switzerland, or if it might actually be Wengen?
Curious, if anyone knows if there is still a Wengue somewhere else in Switzerland, or if it might actually be Wengen?
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If you enter "wengue switzerland" at www.google.com, you will learn about http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Musser-182
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Wenge is also a color, taken from a type of wood
"The Wenge is a rich color grayish-brown with copper tones, takes its name from Wenge wood tone in which it appears."
As many names were corrupted/changed in genealogical history, I'm just wondering if Wengue in the genealogical record, is a corruption of Wengen. If not Wengen, what could it be?
"The Wenge is a rich color grayish-brown with copper tones, takes its name from Wenge wood tone in which it appears."
As many names were corrupted/changed in genealogical history, I'm just wondering if Wengue in the genealogical record, is a corruption of Wengen. If not Wengen, what could it be?
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If the community had Jewish residents it's sometimes useful to use a gazetter that takes into account variations in spelling. I've used a book called Shtetl Finder and I just found this website that gives "Wengi" as a variant of Wengue.
http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/loctown.asp
http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/loctown.asp
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Samuel Musser I 1687 - 1755 Wengue, Canton Berne, Switzerland
www.wikitree.com › Person Index › M › Musser
an obituary from 1755 using the name Wengue -
www.wikitree.com › Person Index › M › Musser
an obituary from 1755 using the name Wengue -
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Maybe the Jews of Switzerland had to leave their shtetls because they chocolate was too rich?
The Jewish population in Switzerland in 1941 was about 19,000, today is a shade under 18,000. The list of famous Swiss Jews is as long as the list of Jewish MMA fighters.
The Jewish population in Switzerland in 1941 was about 19,000, today is a shade under 18,000. The list of famous Swiss Jews is as long as the list of Jewish MMA fighters.
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I don't think it had anything to do with the Jewish population, my information was through Mussers and Zieglers, western border of Germany and Alsace/Switzerland in the 1600s when the borders were not the same as today. Many eventually went to eastern US in the 1800s Amish/Mennonite population
Thanks neckervd, interesting ~ "Alemannic is a group of dialects of German spoken in the Region (Alsace, northern Switzerland, and southern Baden".
But where are the "tons of places called Wengen, Wengi, Weng" in Switzerland (Canton of Berne) I came up with nothing?
Thanks neckervd, interesting ~ "Alemannic is a group of dialects of German spoken in the Region (Alsace, northern Switzerland, and southern Baden".
But where are the "tons of places called Wengen, Wengi, Weng" in Switzerland (Canton of Berne) I came up with nothing?
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Found another one, same "town" name
MOSER, Hans b: Abt 1650 in Wengue, Canton Berne, Switzerland d: 1714
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...me=Moser,+Hans
MOSER, Hans b: Abt 1650 in Wengue, Canton Berne, Switzerland d: 1714
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...me=Moser,+Hans
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Wrenwood, was not really referring to the Jewish aspect as much as these resources to find communities, the spellings of which frequently have variations. They use the consonants, I believe, and disregard vowels to locate places. It's sometimes necessary to know which country a town or village is in to find particular ones when a name is found in more than one country. But Jewish or not, it can be a very good tool.
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An example of the system in the shtetl finders, I knew my great grandmother was from Hungary and a cousin told me the village was named Mundek, probably written down phonetically. I was unable to find it. A friend recommended the book, I had a look and it pointed to a place called Mandok, the only choice in Hungary. I visited and after consulting documents in the national archives in Budapest found that it was, indeed, the correct place. On an uncle's birth certificate were the parent's names and his birth in Mandok. It was thrilling to find it and to visit their village very much in the provinces.
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BigAl, if you refer to my story above, the internet was never involved.
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MMePerdu, you cited JewishGen.
Believe it or not it JewishGen is listed in my favorites as both my grandmothers come from shtetls in what is today Belarus and others come from a small town that once belonged to Germany and is now Poland.
But to make a quantum leap that the name a town in Switzerland is somehow founded as a Jewish shetl needs more inofrmation than a tortured coincience of letters.
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MMePerdu, you cited JewishGen.
Believe it or not it JewishGen is listed in my favorites as both my grandmothers come from shtetls in what is today Belarus and others come from a small town that once belonged to Germany and is now Poland.
But to make a quantum leap that the name a town in Switzerland is somehow founded as a Jewish shetl needs more inofrmation than a tortured coincience of letters.
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BigAl, I made no such leap, merely suggested the system as a way to help the OP in her search. I believe I said, in fact, the Jewish issue was irrelevant while the system used by shtetle finders, book or online, may be of some use. That's all.
I merely cited JewishGen as it was available to show the OP while the book I used in my search was not.
I merely cited JewishGen as it was available to show the OP while the book I used in my search was not.