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oh2doula Dec 30th, 2008 08:42 PM

Oyster card
 
I will arrive in London March 12 11:00 am- Heathrow. I will be with two teens. Will leave on March 16 12:30pm.

I am thinking 7 day Oyster card would be the way to go.

am i correct that we will still need to buy 1 day travelcard for 12 and 16 to get to and from Heathrow???

If that is the case - is a single day travel card - being peak time - the cheapest way to go??

would it be crazy to use the 7 day travelcard to take tube as close to Heathrow as possible and then take black cab??

would leaving the hotel (Travelodge London City Rd) at 8:00 am to return to Heathrow be too early ? too late??

how much will the single day travelcards be or the black cab???

I am budgeting $50 for the 7 day Oyster - is that correct??

again thanks so much!!!

alanRow Dec 30th, 2008 09:51 PM

Your 12yr old can get a day travelcard for £1 that covers all of London - but will need one per day of trip

Your 16yr is an adult, therefore will need an adult travelcard

Given that your best option is to buy 7 day PAPER travelcards, but these can only be bought at train stations. These will allow you to use the 2-for-1 offers that can cut the cost of paying attractions substantially

For LHR to central London, either take the hit and buy a one way ticket (£4 per adult) or get a car service to take you to your hotel

http://www.londontoolkit.com/briefing/travelcard.htm

http://www.londontoolkit.com/briefin...ard_oyster.htm

nona1 Dec 31st, 2008 03:27 AM

Black cab to Heathrow will cost more than 4 train fares - they are painfully expensive and should be avoided for anything other than emergency short hops!

oh2doula Dec 31st, 2008 05:38 AM

12 and 16 are the dates I am arriving and leaving.

I will be with a 17 and 18 year old.

oh2doula Dec 31st, 2008 05:39 AM

PAPER travelcard NOT plastic Oyster??

i will still need single day for getting to and from LHR - correct??

how much should that be??

Robespierre Dec 31st, 2008 05:46 AM

The cheapest way to get back and forth to Heathrow is with a 2-zone Travelcard on Oyster valid for the day plus an extension to get from Zone 2 to Zone 6.

Your supplement fare will get you as far as Hammersmith, where the Travelcard takes over. £1.80 M-F 7AM-7PM, £1 all other times.

This method doesn't pertain to paper Travelcards, only on Oyster. Your total cost might be cheaper with a paper TC and twofers - do the math.

PatrickLondon Dec 31st, 2008 05:48 AM

Options:

Paper travelcards from National Rail stations come with various 2for1 offers (www.daysout.co.uk). You would need to buy separate tube tickets from Heathrow into central London: the single cash fare is £4.

Travelcard on Oyster doesn't have 2for1 offers; the add-on fare to get into central London is (I think) either £1 or £1.80.



TimS Dec 31st, 2008 05:50 AM

As alanRow said, the fare for a single ticket at any time of day on the Tube from Heathrow to central London costs £4. (FYI, a single ticket to go only one stop within central London also costs £4.)

oh2doula Jan 1st, 2009 01:26 PM

I plan to do the 3 day Travelcard 17.40 pounds -one day travelcard 5.30 pounds off peak for day of arrival so we can use it for the rest of day ( this will get me from LHR and let me travel rest of day - correct) and then 4 pounds on the day we depart - from hotel to LHR.

to take advantage of the 2for1 offers I have to buy it at a train station. Is there a train station at Heathrow??

I want to get from Heathrow to Kings Cross for the harry potter platform 9 3/4

can i print the vouchers now or do i need to wait until we get there??

there are three in our goup - is it possible to share this offer with other odd number groups - would it be out of line??

oh2doula Jan 1st, 2009 01:44 PM

will this allow me to use the 2 for 2 offers??

Thu 12 Mar
Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3 (HXX) to London Paddington (PAD)

Journey Summary Details - Option 1 Departs Arrives Duration
12:48 13:05 0:17

Journey Details Calling Points:
Travel By: Train (Retail Service ID: HX056400)
Train Company: Heathrow Express service from Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington

Leg 2 of 2 Underground
Get London Underground Map Thu 12 Mar
London Paddington (PAD) to London Kings Cross (KGX)
Journey Summary Details - Option 2 Departs Arrives Duration
13:05 13:35 0:30
From London Paddington take the Circle Line (Eastbound, Platfrom 2) which is direct a service to Kings Cross St Pancras Underground Station.

4 pounds

Robespierre Jan 1st, 2009 01:47 PM

<b>The itinerary above uses the Heathrow Express. The Tube would be far cheaper, and goes straight to King's X.</b>

I plan to do the 3 day Travelcard 17.40 pounds -one day travelcard 5.30 pounds off peak for day of arrival so we can use it for the rest of day ( this will get me from LHR and let me travel rest of day - correct) and then 4 pounds on the day we depart - from hotel to LHR. <b>Oyster fares are much cheaper than singles for between LHR and town. I'd go with Oyster, 3-day, Oyster.</b>

to take advantage of the 2for1 offers I have to buy it at a train station. Is there a train station at Heathrow?? <b>Unfortunately, not where you can buy Travelcards.</b>

can i print the vouchers now or do i need to wait until we get there?? <b>Now is good.</b>

there are three in our goup - is it possible to share this offer with other odd number groups - would it be out of line?? <b>I don't <i>think</i> it's expressly forbidden.</b>

oh2doula Jan 1st, 2009 02:44 PM

where are the train stations where i can buy the travelcard to use the 2for1???

i had planned to take tube from LHR to kings crossing - one day??? so i can use for the rest of day???

leaving we will only need to take the tube from hotel to LHR - 4 pounds?? is that correct???

i have looked at the 2for 1 offers and really only thought tower of london would be where we would use it.

if its a pain to get to the trainstation to buy the travelcard to get the 2for1 should we even mess with it??

we can get travelcard before hand or when we arrive at LHR - right??

oh2doula Jan 1st, 2009 03:20 PM

Heathrow Airport Terminal 3
Walk to Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3
Transfer time: 10 mins




Heathrow Airport Terminal 3

12:13

Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3 Underground Station
Take the Piccadilly Line towards Cockfosters


Zone(s): 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Average journey time: 56 mins
Zone(s): 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
Heathrow Terminals 1-2-3 Underground Station

13:09 King's Cross St.Pancras Underground Station ( is this the correct location for HP platform 9 3/4?)

will this be 4 pounds?? and then three day travelcard for 18.40 pounds???

and 4 pounds to LHR when we leave

sf7307 Jan 1st, 2009 03:49 PM

I am very confused by all of this. If you are NOT going to make use of the 2 for 1, then you don't need the multi-day travel card (?). Wouldn't a Pay-as-you-go Oyster card work? Buy them at Heathrow when you arrive, put as much money on them as you want, plus pay a 3 pound deposit. Use them all 5 days, including back and forth to Heathrow. Each day, there is a cap on the amount you'll use. At the end of your stay, turn them in at Heathrow and get back the deposit and the balance on the card. Maybe that adds up to more than you'll spend otherwise?

Robespierre Jan 1st, 2009 04:21 PM

With an Oyster card, the most you will pay for the first day is &pound;7 (<i>i.e.</i>, the cap for 6 zones). If you could even buy a Travelcard at Heathrow, you'd spend &pound;7.50, period. But you can't, so you'd have to buy a &pound;4 single cash fare.

To get two &pound;16.50 twofers for the Tower, only two of you need day Travelcards - and only for 2 zones. The third person can use Oyster PAYG on that day, and the other two days all of you can. Even if you all cap out (&pound;5.10) - and you probably won't- Oyster will still cost far less than three 3-day Travelcards.

The ride back to the airport will cost &pound;2.20 on Oyster, or &pound;4 on a single cash fare.

I'd go for the Oyster PAYG for everything except the twofer buying.

Robespierre Jan 1st, 2009 06:30 PM

Oh, I forgot - Platform 9¾ is indeed at King's <u>Cross</u> (not Crossing), and since it's a National Rail station, you can buy paper Travelcards there. Make sure you get them dated for your Tower day.

crypto.com/photos/misc/platform9.75.html

janisj Jan 1st, 2009 06:46 PM

If you want to do all the calculating and hoop jumping - yes, get a combo of oyster(s) ands paper travel cards. You will save approx $20 total

The Tower of London costs &pound;9 for the 12 yo and &pound;15.50 for the other two (if you buy tickets ahead of time on-line w/o the 2 for 1 offer). Total = &pound;40.

On the day, the tickets cost &pound;9.50 and &pound;16.50 = &pound;42.50. The 2 for 1 will get you one discount of one entry @ &pound;16.50 = &pound;26 total for the three of you.

A difference of &pound;14 which today equals $20.50. That is the grand total of savings you'll realize.

If it was me -- I'd just get oysters and be done w/ it.

oh2doula Jan 1st, 2009 07:19 PM

I think I am making this way too hard. I just dont want to be thoroughly confused when I arrive.

Please let me know IF I can do this AND IF it is cost effective -

arrive at LHR at 11:00 buy one day zone 1 -6 off peak ticket for 7.50 pounds - to cover tube to Kings Cross and for the rest of the day.

While at Kings Cross - I can buy the three day travelcard dates 13, 14, 15) to take advantage of the 2for1 offers - take pic at platform 9 3/4. Then cab to City road for 12 pounds OR to russell square to hotel. will i need to come to train station on Friday to get the three day travelcard OR can i buy them for the following day?????

finally 4 pounds for tube back to LHR on 16 march


I will not be with 12 and 16 year old - those are the dates - I will be with 17 and 18 year old - adult tickets.


texasbookworm Jan 1st, 2009 07:19 PM

I went through some of the same mental contortions when there this last summer--whether to make the effort to get a one day card to get 2 for 1 deals.

We got 2 Oyster cards and kept them loaded; got all our money, including deposit, back at Heathrow Tube office as we departed.

We got 1 day travel cards only once, and that was the day we went to both the Tower and the Tower Bridge and so we ended up saving about $30 I think. And we'd been at a train station the day before and so it was convenient to buy 1-day tickets.

My economic contortions figured out that for the Oyster was cheaper than 7 day cards (we rode to and from Heathrow and rode the Tube every day) and only the day that had two 2for1 offers was worth any effort to buy the day card.

My 2 cents worth!

texasbookworm Jan 1st, 2009 07:22 PM

Oops hit post instead of preview--meant to add that the Tower Bridge, with a 2for1 deal, was a good use of our time, if for nothing else than cool views of the Thames but engineer husband also enjoyed seeing the engine room and such. Don't know how your days have stacked up, but I liked the Tower Bridge Experience which we did after the Tower.


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