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bab706 Mar 4th, 2014 05:08 AM

Ordering in a Deli
 
I will be in Bologna and Rome next month and would love to order food for take out - cheese and/or meat. Can anyone tell me how to order (in Italian) a quarter pound or a half pound? For example - a half pound of pecorino cheese? Or - a quarter pound of mortadella? Thanks!

quokka Mar 4th, 2014 05:14 AM

You don't order in pounds in Italy.

Either use 500 g ("cinquecento grammi") or 1/2 kg ("mezzo chilo") for a pound. The common unit to use for smaller amounts would be the etto, which is 100 grams: "un' etto" = 100 g, "due etti" = 200 g etc.

BomDiaLisbon Mar 4th, 2014 05:37 AM

Be sure to practice your pronunciation:

gabagool, brazhoot, rigot, mutzadel...

Or maybe not :-)

sparkchaser Mar 4th, 2014 05:38 AM

LOL pounds.

Dukey1 Mar 4th, 2014 05:47 AM

A kilo is 2.2 pounds; 500 grams would be a little more than one pound; 250 grams would be approx 1/2 pound; 125 grams approx 1/4 pound.

MissPrism Mar 4th, 2014 06:41 AM

Personally, I'd use etto/etti

NYCFoodSnob Mar 4th, 2014 06:54 AM

<i><font color=#555555>"LOL pounds."</font></i>

I fail to see what is so funny. The OP specifically asked for pound figures "(in Italian)."

Many tourists don't know what an <i>etto</i> is, and they don't don't know how to convert ounces to <i>etti</i>. For smaller weights of food items in Italy, it helps to know your numbers in <i>etti</i>. Here is my approximate breakdown:

uno etto = 3.5 ounces
due etti = 7 ounces
tre etti = 10.5 ounces
quattro etti = 14 ounces

bab706 Mar 4th, 2014 07:21 AM

NYCFoodSnob - Thanks so much! This is exactly what I was looking for. I do understand that food is not weighed by the pound in Europe. But I was confused by units of measure less than one pound. So if I wanted 7 ounces of mortadella - I would ask for due etti mortadella! Thanks!

BigRuss Mar 4th, 2014 08:00 AM

BomDia: it's mootzarell or mortadel and riggut, not rigot.

At least that's how my neighbors pronounced it. But I'd not use the Sicilian-emigre-in-America pronunciation in Bologna.

Bab: check out this site for more info. It works for etto/etti (note, Italian plurals don't end in s).

http://www.convertunits.com/

bab706 Mar 4th, 2014 08:26 AM

BigRuss: Thanks

suze Mar 4th, 2014 08:31 AM

My trick when I don't know the measurements is to say (in Italian or Spanish or whatever) "enough for 2 people" or hold my fingers to show the size of the stack I'm after. that's always worked for me.

adrienne Mar 4th, 2014 08:45 AM

This is an interesting thread.

I would write the amount on a piece of paper and hand it to the person so you don't get 4 pounds of whatever!

Is there a word for portion or slice? Such as if you want to buy a slice or portion of quiche or tart?

bab706 Mar 4th, 2014 10:07 AM

Thanks everybody for your comments and feedback. I'm going to add the following to my trip notes and want to make sure I have it right. Can someone confirm?

Ordering Cheese/Meat

100 grams = 3 ounces (un etto)
200 grams = 7 ounces (due etti)
300 grams = 10 ounces (tre etti)
500 grams = 1 pound (cinque etti)

bvlenci Mar 4th, 2014 10:58 AM

"One slice" is "una fetta", but Italians don't order "slices" of cake or pie. You would say, "one portion", "una porzione", or "one piece", "un pezzo". Two would be "due porzioni" or "due pezzi".

BigRuss Mar 4th, 2014 10:59 AM

You're close enough for government work. You're really dealing with about 3.5 oz/100g.

28.35g = 1 oz
454g = 1 lb
500g = 1/2 kilo = 17.6 oz

quokka Mar 4th, 2014 12:00 PM

A pound is 500 g to Europeans. The American pound is lighter.
And saying "mezzo chilo" is more common than "cinque etti", but the latter will be understood.

When ordering for example prosciutto, asking for x slices ("fettine") is not uncommon, and makes sense if you want it for a takeaway picnic because it will be cut and ready to put on bread. Take into account that they usually cut it very very thin so you may need a couple more than you estimated.

bab706 Mar 4th, 2014 12:03 PM

bvlenci - Thanks!

BigRuss - I'm glad I'm close. I'm just trying to get enough cheese for a taste - or a sandwich!!

AJPeabody Mar 4th, 2014 01:21 PM

Or just get a good looking pre-made sandwich.

TXtraveler2013 Mar 4th, 2014 02:33 PM

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PalenQ Mar 4th, 2014 02:34 PM

I hear the Boloney in Bologna is tops? True?

bvlenci Mar 5th, 2014 12:11 AM

Boloney is "mortadella" in Bologna.

Most grocers will make you a sandwich, charging you just for the cost of the roll and the weight of the meat or cheese. You won't really find delis as known in the US. Italians don't put things like mayonnaise, ketchup, and mustard on their sandwiches, and neither do they put tomatoes, lettuce, or onions. It will just be meat or cheese, nude and crude, on a roll.

It's worth your while to learn what type of salami or other cured meat, or cheese, is made locally, because they are likely to have the highest quality of that type of meat or cheese. For example, you'd probably find a very high quality mortadella in a grocery in Bologna, while in Naples, the mortadella might be an industrial product at most grocers.

In the evening, it's not a bad idea to buy the makings of a sandwich at a grocer, along with something to drink and some fruit, and take it back to the hotel to have supper. You can even buy a tube of mayonnaise for your sandwich! This is an excellent way to sample high quality local cheeses and cured meats. Add a good local wine, and you'll have a low-cost gastronomic tour.


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