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May 7th, 2005, 03:10 AM
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Sorry Sheila, call me an old cynic but I don't believe honesty and politics are two words that go together.
Don't know where you live but here in NI Sinn Fein and the DUP took all the seats bar 4.
It's a sad day but but the only winner here was sectarianism.
Don't know where you live but here in NI Sinn Fein and the DUP took all the seats bar 4.
It's a sad day but but the only winner here was sectarianism.
May 7th, 2005, 03:36 AM
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Ok, cambe; you're a cynic
I, on the otehr hand, am an optimist about the humand condition. I know, from personal experience that almost everyone I've ever met in politics, has been in it for the good they can do, not teh good they can derive. That's all parties and I accept tehre are exceptions; and that their perceptions of the good they can do are not necessarily the same as mine
What's happening in NI is sad. I don't like David Trimble or his politics but I think he's been immensely brave and I hate that his constituence has thrown him out. It's almost as bad as Galloway, that stinking hypocrite winning. Cuold you believe his speech from the podium? From a man who sucked up to Saddam?!?
I, on the otehr hand, am an optimist about the humand condition. I know, from personal experience that almost everyone I've ever met in politics, has been in it for the good they can do, not teh good they can derive. That's all parties and I accept tehre are exceptions; and that their perceptions of the good they can do are not necessarily the same as mine
What's happening in NI is sad. I don't like David Trimble or his politics but I think he's been immensely brave and I hate that his constituence has thrown him out. It's almost as bad as Galloway, that stinking hypocrite winning. Cuold you believe his speech from the podium? From a man who sucked up to Saddam?!?
May 7th, 2005, 08:42 AM
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As ever you could read good and bad news for all the major parties into the results: for Labour a grudging "You get another go, but don't think we're enthusiastic about it", for the Tories "We haven't given up on you entirely, but you haven't changed enough" and for the LibDems "You might just be worth a try, but not yet". But as flanner points out, there must have been a multiplicity of motivations. So the electorate's message is probably (for those who've seen "Little Britain"
- "yeah but no but..."
- "yeah but no but..."
May 7th, 2005, 10:22 AM
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Or in terms of "Desperate Housewives", Labour is Lynette's husband after she's managed to get his promotion taken away, the Tories are Bree's husband sleeping on the sofa at best, and the LibDems have just started the lawnmower.....
May 7th, 2005, 10:40 AM
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I frequently watch Cspan II. Saturday and Sunday nights there is broadcast of Tony Blair speaking to the house of Commons. As an American, I find the program very ineresting.
I have tried to guess which party each speaker is from before it is flashed on the screen. The intriguing thing to me is that the most attractive, well groomed, less fat and most articulate are the Tory (conservative ) members.
The Conservative party picked up many new seats in London. One particular winner was a very, very attractive 35 year old lady from Putney.
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I have tried to guess which party each speaker is from before it is flashed on the screen. The intriguing thing to me is that the most attractive, well groomed, less fat and most articulate are the Tory (conservative ) members.
The Conservative party picked up many new seats in London. One particular winner was a very, very attractive 35 year old lady from Putney.
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May 7th, 2005, 01:59 PM
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<i>Or in terms of "Desperate Housewives", Labour is Lynette's husband after she's managed to get his promotion taken away, the Tories are Bree's husband sleeping on the sofa at best, and the LibDems have just started the lawnmower.....</i>
May 7th, 2005, 04:33 PM
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"...he needs an higher salary"
"An"? Oh dear, MK2, you're doing it again. No Briton, surely, would say that. Come to think of it, who, anywhere, would?
If the Tories ever return to office it will be because the British public has tired of those boringly sensible Labour people and want a return to the grand Conservative tradition of Tory peers wearing nothing but fishnet stockings and leather appurtenances found hanging in Soho lofts. Blair's romps with his lawful wedded can't compete with that.
The fact is that there was and is no question in British public affairs to which the answer was "Tory". At least Howard's sleazy attempts to play the race card, masterminded by his regrettable Australian Svengali came to naught (or not much, anyway).
But Spygirl is too kind to Blair; it was blindingly obvious that he leant on his discomfited Attorney-General until he got the answer he wanted on Iraq. Hopefully future British leaders will think twice before supporting the imperial ambitions of right-wing US administrations.
Overall, a deserved slap on the wrist for Blair and a pass mark for the British electorate.
"An"? Oh dear, MK2, you're doing it again. No Briton, surely, would say that. Come to think of it, who, anywhere, would?
If the Tories ever return to office it will be because the British public has tired of those boringly sensible Labour people and want a return to the grand Conservative tradition of Tory peers wearing nothing but fishnet stockings and leather appurtenances found hanging in Soho lofts. Blair's romps with his lawful wedded can't compete with that.
The fact is that there was and is no question in British public affairs to which the answer was "Tory". At least Howard's sleazy attempts to play the race card, masterminded by his regrettable Australian Svengali came to naught (or not much, anyway).
But Spygirl is too kind to Blair; it was blindingly obvious that he leant on his discomfited Attorney-General until he got the answer he wanted on Iraq. Hopefully future British leaders will think twice before supporting the imperial ambitions of right-wing US administrations.
Overall, a deserved slap on the wrist for Blair and a pass mark for the British electorate.
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