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cocofromdijon Jan 9th, 2006 02:04 AM

When I go to the restaurant with a friend who doesn't drink wine we usually ask for une carafe d'eau. No problem at all.
Sometimes waiters who want to sell bottles will say "do you want de l'eau minérale? plate ou gazeuse?" so you tend to take a bottle but you can also reply "une carafe d'eau suffira merci".

Nikki Jan 9th, 2006 04:20 AM

Kappa, yes, I frequently order une carafe d'eau and no paid drinks. And have never seen even a hint of attitude.

Christina Jan 9th, 2006 12:48 PM

My experience is like what Coco says -- carafe is the more common word for water, not pichet which is for wine. So maybe that is regional or the country or something. Actually, sometimes they just bring you a glass of water and sometimes I ask for that, also (un verre d'eau), if I am alone as I won't be needing the entire bottle. Also, they usually will just give you a glass of water if you are only having dessert or something, not a whole meal, if you ask for it. Some places bring it in empty bottle of some kinds, it seems to me.

I've never had a waiter give me attitude about that, although if you don't stress it, they will usually bring you brand bottled mineral water if you ask for some water. I think a lot of Parisians do drink bottled water in restaurants and that's just custom. I've seen even lots of people order bottled water in modest places.

Michael Jan 12th, 2006 09:43 PM

Just insist on <i>chateau la pompe</i>.

kappa Jan 13th, 2006 12:10 AM

La carafe lyonnaise. Looks like a simple wine bottle of 750cc but with a very thik base maybe 1 inch. As you can see from the name, many restaurants in Lyon serve tap water in this particular carafe.

Louie_LI Jan 13th, 2006 03:17 AM

That's actually a pot lyonnais, and it contains 46cl. The name for this type of pitcher is the origin of the expression &quot;prendre un pot&quot; for &quot;have a drink&quot;.

Intrepid1 Jan 13th, 2006 04:33 AM

Water, which is, by definition, &quot;tasteless, odorless, and colorless&quot; seems to inspire almost as much debate here as clothing.

Therese Jan 13th, 2006 06:00 AM

Pichet also the term used for cidre (hard cider). I've never heard pichet used for water, though of course that might vary locally in certain parts of France.

kappa Jan 13th, 2006 06:20 AM

Louie-Li, I thought you were right. As I said only from my vague memory(carafe lyonnaise), just in case, I have checked with my colleague from Lyon. He confirmed &quot;un pot lyonnais, c'est tout. Il y pas d'autre nom.&quot;

Thank you for your follow-up.

kappa Jan 13th, 2006 06:24 AM

I found the following line about le pot lyonnais. Now I klnow why I thought it contains as a normal full wine bottle.

&quot;Cette bouteille en verre bien solide
qui figure sur tous les comptoirs &agrave; l'&eacute;poque du beaujolais nouveau, contenait un litre jusqu'au fameux d&eacute;cret de 1850 qui diminua sa capacit&eacute; &agrave; 46 centilitres. Pour compenser, les bistrotiers invent&egrave;rent alors un cul plus &eacute;pais, comme un trompe-l'oeil...&quot;

cocofromdijon Jan 13th, 2006 06:25 AM

Yesterday I went to an asian restaurant I like in Dijon with a new chinese friend, we asked for water &quot;juste de l'eau&quot; and I didn't pay attention to what was brought on the table. We took pictures ((P))all together and when I saw them on my computer I noticed it was a pichet, not a carafe! I have a proof it can be both now!

socialworker Jan 13th, 2006 08:22 AM

HI--I don't speak French, but the way I figured out to ask for a pichet d'eau, was by hearing native French speakers use the term at an adjoining table in a cafe in Paris....

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