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October 4 and 5 in Venice (need to plan 2 days)

October 4 and 5 in Venice (need to plan 2 days)

Sep 13th, 2009, 06:33 AM
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Also, the Hilton website has directions:

http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hote...ns.do#localmap
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Sep 13th, 2009, 06:40 AM
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Thanks, I saw those directions and I know it's on Giudecca.....and I saw a map....I still don't know what the "stop name" would be...

what I mean is that if you go to the link below.....there is a drop down menu for Departure and Arrival....what do I put for the 2 stops?

http://www.actv.it/english/home.php
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Sep 13th, 2009, 07:23 AM
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Ferrovia and Planca. It takes less than 15 minutes, so put in the arrival times as 15 minutes after you anticipate getting on the boat. Use the 24 clock for time (10:00pm = 22:00).

Also, make sure you get on the bus headed toward your right as you face the water.
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Sep 13th, 2009, 07:28 AM
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If I had a little time as you to see Venice, I certainly would not spend one of them in Burano and Murano.
There is so much to see and do in Venice. Hell, I'd even favor just walking around the streets, alleys, etc.
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Sep 13th, 2009, 07:44 AM
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thanks for the stop....is planca = palanca?

so I guess it's bus #2...which seems to be every 30 minutes or so, so not bad.


thanks, I guess we will spend the first day in Venice "walking around" etc. and then if we feel we need more, we will skip the islands, if not, well for for a boat ride... to these islands
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Sep 13th, 2009, 07:47 AM
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I agree, spending precious time going to any of the little islands is madness on such a short trip, especially as your hotel is a bit out of the way and you will already be on boats quite a bit. I assume you are staying at the Molino Stucky, are you sure they don't do a pickup service on arrival and departure?
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Sep 13th, 2009, 07:52 AM
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I've been to Venice twice for 3 nights, then for 4 nights and I have not yet made it off Venice 'proper'. I've meant to do the island tour each time and always get pulled in the direction of something else wonderful looking and hop off the Vaporetto.

Be happy you didn't plan Venice to the 9's. Think about 'big' things you want to fit in and that will encourage you to visit different siestre (neighborhoods). Accademia? Doge's Palace? Basicilica? Guggenheim? (sp?)Arsenale? Lido?

Have you read the 'official' overview provided here on Fodors? It's about the same as what a guidebook would say. If you do not yet have a guidebook DK Top 10 Venice (get the 2009 version, some bookstores keep the old ones out) is a gem and is small enough you won't feel guilty packing it!

Enjoy!
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Sep 13th, 2009, 08:14 AM
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Hello,
before going to VENICE take a look at this article http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/tra...cle6818585.ece

IMO Most delicious Trattorie are:
Al Diavolo e l'Acquasanta-Traditional Trattoria by San Polo/ Euro 40- Tel. 041-2770307
Alla Botte- Trattoria by San Marco/ Euro 40- Tel. 041-520 9775
Cà D'Oro detta Alla Vedova- Traditional Trattoria by Cannaregio/ Euro 40- Tel. 041-5285324
Dalla Marisa- Very NICE Trattoria Highly Recommended by Cannaregio/ E.40- Tel. 041-720 211

Ciao
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Sep 13th, 2009, 11:05 AM
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Yes = Molino Stucky

Where do I go to book train tickets?

www.italiarail.com the booking option of this site does not seem to work....

do trains EVER get full or could this be booked last minute?
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Sep 13th, 2009, 12:42 PM
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Italian rail system:

http://www.ferroviedellostato.it/homepage_en.html

I would wait to book until arrival in Italy. Many from the U.S. have difficulty using the site to book tickets and booking ahead is rarely necessary.
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Sep 13th, 2009, 01:03 PM
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thanks for the advice.

Google maps is great, it really helped to figure out where the sites were....

time to plan my sunday...

we will have breakfast at the Molino (free since Hilton Honnors Gold member...) so should be on the road (or water) by 9h00 am...

then, some of the things I want to do are the following:

walk around Rialto bridge/walk around st. mark's square/walk around in general.../ride down the grand canal....how should I structure this......ideally, we would keep st. marks square for 4-8 pm range...we were thinking of going to "harry's bar" for dinner, it seems close to st. marks...would you say less tehn 10 minutes walk? would we need reservation? how far would the walk be to rialto bridge.....

please help me detailed plan this day, since we want to get as much in as possible - young with lots of energy ....
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Sep 13th, 2009, 01:40 PM
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St Marks Square to Harry's Bar- less than 10 minutes.
Harry's to Rialto bridge- 20 minutes.
Get a reservation for Harry's.

The sunset view from the Molino Sky Bar is wonderful.

What guidebook are you using?
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Sep 13th, 2009, 01:43 PM
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Another great website for Venice maps and locations is this one:

http://maps.venicexplorer.net/maps.php?hlangs=en

You keep speaking of fitting in "as much as possible" and making a "detailed plan" but you haven't actually named that many things that you want to do. "walk around Rialto bridge/walk around st. mark's square/walk around in general.../ride down the grand canal" could fill 2-3 hours with room to spare, depending on if you stop anywhere, or go into any churches, museums, or shops.

A ride on the Grand Canal from Piazzale Roma all the way to San Marco takes 30-40 minutes. You might spend 15 minutes or you could spend an hour in the Rialto markets depending on your interests. The walk from the Rialto Bridge to San Marco s about 10 minutes, but this does not allow for exploring or dealing with crowds.

I think eating at Harry's Bar is a mistake--way too expensive for the quality and ambience--a waste on money in my opinion.
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Sep 13th, 2009, 02:32 PM
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Thanks again!

well, we don't have specifics, i.e. we like walking around and taking pictures, so I guess, the ideal would be to have a nice "walking route" that would take us to most of the sites (Piazza San Marco/Rialto Bridge)...

Let's say we head out at 9h00 am, where would be a good place to start? Does it make sense to take the free ride to Piazza San Marco (visit a bit/take pictures)......then walk to Rialto Bridge (visit a bit/take pictures)....then from there is it walkable to "piazzale roma", if so how long and is it a nice walk..? the reason is I thought we would then take the "Grand canal" ride back to Piazza San Marco where we would spend more time/have dinner........does this make sense?

Any other nice walking areas we are missing?

Any recommendations other then Harry's Bar? I don't mind spending a lot of money, but I'm not into "haute cuisine", i.e. spaghetti or pizza would be great for me....but wife likes the good stuff....

I know you guys think I'm overthinking/planning, but we are both people that "cant make decisions"....so if we don't have a fixed plan, we will end up asking ourselfs "what should we do/I don't care/you decide" all day....so if we do have a fixed plan, then this won't be an issue and we can always go "off plan" if we see something.....
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Sep 13th, 2009, 02:51 PM
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Your ideas are a good start. The walk to Piazzale Roma is not the best of the possible walks with so little time, although no walk is bad. From the market side of Rialto, I'd walk thorough San Polo past the Frari church. (you might enjoy visiting this church) From there you can head to Piazzale Roma.

Ride from Piazzale Roma to San Marco and walk around San Marco, perhaps stopping for a drink at one of the cafes. Then walk west toward the Accademia bridge. To reach the bridge you will pass through the fancy shopping area eventually reaching Campo San Stefano and the Accademia Bridge.

Cross the bridge to Dorsoduro and have dinner at one of the many restaurants in the area. You might enjoy the options near Campo Santa Margherita.

Rather than eat near San Marco
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Sep 13th, 2009, 02:51 PM
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I didn't see that last sentence! Pay no attention . . .
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Sep 13th, 2009, 02:53 PM
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It's always tough figuring out new cities, especially one like Venice with so much to see and experience.

I actually think you are underplanning/thinking. There are some great Venice guidebooks with walking itineraries and maps. Many have suggested itineraries for 1 day, 2 day, 3 day visits. Reading up on options beforehand and having the book in hand while you are there will help make it easy to navigate and make decisions.
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Sep 13th, 2009, 03:13 PM
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we are doing rome/athens/venice/florence/mykonos/santorini, so that is a lot of guidebooks

Great suggestions ellenem! Sounds like we have a nice day planned

The following day, I think we will do Burano and Murano...do we need to plan these stops, or is it mostly just taking the water bus to the island, walking around/taking pictures, then hopping back to the next island, etc....I was thinking leaving around 9h00 am....doing both islands(1-2 hours each?), having lunch at one of the islands (ideas?) and then coming back to likely San Marco for the evening.....this is of course if we are satisfied with our first day (i.e. if we see other things or we feel we did not get to see what we wanted, we will skip these islands....)
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Sep 13th, 2009, 03:16 PM
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Why on earth would you plan days in Venice? The tourist attraction in that city IS the city-the only "must-do" is to wander. I am a compulsive planner, and love it, but the only planning I would do for Venice is to read some Donna Leon books and maybe "The Thief Lord" and know how to get home to my hotel.
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Sep 13th, 2009, 03:19 PM
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yes, but I need to know "where to wander" , i.e. I prefer walking along the highlighs and not end up in the slums....
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