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St. Mark Jun 5th, 2002 09:33 AM

NY Pizza Beats Italian Pizza - Hands Down
 
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Food Wars Again? Jun 5th, 2002 09:37 AM

Agreed.

NYC Jun 5th, 2002 09:39 AM

I must agree with the troll here, the only time I was ever served microwaved pizza was in Florence. Yuck.

xx Jun 5th, 2002 09:59 AM

Just stay home and eat your bread with cheese and stop bothering the rest of us.

forgetnewyork Jun 5th, 2002 10:52 AM

You New Yorkers are all the same. You think you are the center of the world.<BR>You have never been outside of New York and everyone knows it.

Mika Piazza Jun 5th, 2002 10:55 AM

I love the Big New Yorker!

Pizza Jun 5th, 2002 10:57 AM

You've obviously never eaten in Baffetto's in Rome.

Capo Jun 5th, 2002 11:01 AM

Italians may have invented pizza -- and, for that, I'm forever grateful -- but, based on the pizza I've had in Italy, I think Americans have improved on it.

Oh,Please Jun 5th, 2002 11:07 AM

When in Switzerland I tried the chocolate, in France the crepes, in England the roast beef and kidney pie, and I’ve had pizza in Italy and in Sicily, etc.<BR>I doubt that I was ever so disappointed by a culinary “treat” as the in legendary New York pizza. I’ve tried it in various parts of the city and, except for a couple of traditional pies in Little Italy, I’ve been shocked at the soggy crust and sweet, ketsup-based sauce I’ve been served.<BR>Absolutely, hands down, inarguably, and indubitably the WORST pizza I’ve EVER eaten was a “New York” style. My gawd, I’d rather have one of those Stouffer’s French bread pizzas fixed in my own oven at home.<BR>Like so much in NYC, the natives have convinced themselves that it’s the best, but again what do they have to judge it against since they never leave the place? Pure swill.<BR>

mark Jun 5th, 2002 11:55 AM

NY Two Boots pizza kicks butt - combination italian & cajun (bam!!!). When I was in Rome last May I didn't get around to trying any pizza becuase there was so much BETTER things to eat. Now when I get to Naples, that'll be a different story....

Ruty Jun 5th, 2002 12:01 PM

Now the egos are debating pizzas, not travel. give it a rest, you are dumbing down fodors

loreeta Jun 5th, 2002 12:08 PM

Are you all insane? New Yorkers don't leave New York? Where'd you get that from? Some of the most sophisticated travelers live in New York.<BR>It's so sad to see so many so jealous of our great town and it's people.<BR>

John G Jun 5th, 2002 12:21 PM

New York-style pizza isn't better than Neapolitan pizza, it is just different.<BR><BR>If you look at pizza Margherita, for example, the ingredients are dough, fresh tomatoes, basil, olive oil, and a little cheese, all baked in a stone oven. This is a typical Neapolitan pizza.<BR><BR>A New York-style pizza is dough, tomato sauce from a can, and LOTS AND LOTS of cheese, all baked in a metal oven. This pizza is very greasy, which appeals to the American appetite for fat.<BR><BR>It is all a matter of taste.

mj Jun 5th, 2002 12:31 PM

Oh Please,<BR>You're an expert on pizza in NYC after a couple/few trips to NYC pizza places? I think not plebeian. Wadda' think, every one of the 1000s of pizza places in NY makes the best pizza? And every pub in the UK makes the best "snake" and kidney pie?<BR><BR>And what's "NY style" pizza? We have Sicilian and Neopolitan pies in NY. I _never_ heard anyone _ever_ order a "NY style" pizza here.<BR><BR>And what's with the attitude towards New Yorkers, one of us give you a weggie?

mark Jun 5th, 2002 12:38 PM

If you want greasey pizza one should go to London - where they put additional oil on the slice when they put in back in the oven - yuck. <BR><BR>Only a person who goes to Pizza Hut would say "New York style" (yuck).<BR><BR>As for cheese - Ray's on 12th st & 6th ave is pretty gross - too much cheese

HANK Jun 5th, 2002 12:43 PM

Years ago, before my first trip to New York City, I asked a friend if he thought I’d enjoy it there. I figured he would know, he’d spent half of his life in Queens. He told me one of the great truths of this world.<BR>“Yes, there’s a good chance you’ll find New York fascinating. And if you don’t, don’t worry, a New Yorker will remind you every 15 minutes or so.”<BR>You have to admire the civic pride of people who have convinced themselves (if no one else) that all America, in fact the entire world, is only sorry that we can’t live in NYC. It came as quite a blow to some when, years ago, the city cried that it was “going broke!”<BR>Most New Yorkers have chosen to forget the country’s reaction to that one.<BR>

pizza guy Jun 5th, 2002 12:46 PM

Fav NY Pizza: Some dive called Pronto (or something like that) on 48th street is one the best I've tried. Also St. Marks Pizza on St. Mark's place and Mariella on 17th and 2nd Ave.

Capo Jun 5th, 2002 12:51 PM

Re: "New York-style pizza isn't better than Neapolitan pizza, it is just different."<BR><BR>Yeah. And Sophia Loren isn't better than Margaret Thatcher. Just different. :)<BR><BR>Seriously, this is another one of those objective vs. subjective issues. I really can't say (as I did) that the U.S. "improved" on pizza, just that I *prefer* pizza I've had in the U.S. to pizza I've had in Italy.

carol Jun 5th, 2002 12:54 PM

I have never had a New York pizza. I have not been there enough to get to pizza. Great dogs though.<BR><BR>I liked Italian pizzas. There are lots of kinds and they differ regionally. I especially liked the thick crusted ones that you typically could only get as take-away.<BR><BR>I like Chicago pizza too.

chicagogirl Jun 5th, 2002 12:55 PM

Chicago pizza beats NY pizza hands down!!

Not a NYer Jun 5th, 2002 12:56 PM

I don't live in NY, and don't know true NY pizza, but I'd take Domino's, Pizza Hut or even a DiGiornio's over any of the pizzas I've had in Italy. <BR><BR>Either you Europhiles are delusional about the food there, or you must eat at McDonald's every day in the US and that's your basis for comparison.

JD Jun 5th, 2002 12:59 PM

Texas pizza beats Chicago pizza AND New York pizza. How you like that?

ILOVE Jun 5th, 2002 01:00 PM

I hate those people who slam NYC. They honestly know NOTHING about it. <BR><BR>However, the BEST pizza I've EVER had was in a little pizzaria in Ste Remy, Provence.

pizza guy Jun 5th, 2002 01:01 PM

Pizza in Texas!!!!? Really? Hmmm.

Ital Jun 5th, 2002 01:04 PM

If you want the best pizza come to Chicago. The pizza in New York is made by Greeks.

Binky Jun 5th, 2002 01:04 PM

Mine was a tie:<BR><BR>Sally's in New Haven, Connecticut, and a cafe near Les Halles in Paris. Go figure.

Capo Jun 5th, 2002 01:18 PM

Madame K's! <BR><BR>http://www.thestranger.com/1999-09-30/chow.html<BR>

pizza guy Jun 5th, 2002 02:13 PM

New York pizza is made by Puerto Ricans. Does that matter?

xx Jun 5th, 2002 02:14 PM

Avelinos in Queens!

del Jun 5th, 2002 02:31 PM

St.Mark<BR>Why would you bother with pizza in Italy<BR>when there are so many other good foods to choose from.Just curious.

Pasquale Jun 5th, 2002 04:19 PM

Remember people that <BR>pizza is a speciality only in Rome where you get the thin roman pizza, and in the south of Italy where you get the thicker Neapolitan pizza from which comes the US one.<BR>In Tuscany and in the rest of nothern Italy the pizza is not that popular and what you get is only a poor and often mediocre imitation of the roman pizza.

JP Jun 5th, 2002 05:01 PM

Here's another belive or not: Montreal hot dogs beat NY hot dogs - hands down! No questions about it.

Hey loretta Jun 5th, 2002 07:06 PM

Hey loretta,<BR>"Some of the most sophisticated travelers live in New York."??? Ohhhh you're Sophisticated...and better than everyone.<BR>You self centered sophisticated New Yorkers don't have a clue.<BR><BR>

Anru Jun 5th, 2002 08:45 PM

The best place to get a pizza in N.Y. is just about any small place -- not associated with any chains -- on Staten Island. It's worth the boat ride!

lovehotdogs Jun 5th, 2002 09:13 PM

I agree that NY has more better hot dogs than italy. Pizzas are different story.

Giovanna Jun 5th, 2002 09:28 PM

Totally disagree. John G. described Italian pizza best (it did start in Napoli by the way). Those of you who don't like Italian pizza are going along with the American philosophy about most things--"more is better." The pizza wars go on--more toppings, larger size, now we have stuffed crust. It won't be long before waiters suffer hernias carrying these monstrosities to your tables.<BR><BR>

juck Jun 5th, 2002 09:43 PM

why are you eating that greezy NY crap?

Art Jun 5th, 2002 10:00 PM

Actually Boston pizza is better than NY picca, esp in the North end (Italian district). Chicago had the best deep dish pizza.

Leslie Jun 5th, 2002 10:15 PM

I've eaten pizza throughout Italy and also the Italian section of Boston, and I prefer NYC pizza instead. The crust is better. Everything just tastes better when you're in NYC. It's all part of the wonderful adventure. All cities have their favorite comfort foods.

Joyce Jun 6th, 2002 06:14 AM

Different parts of Italy seem to sell different types of pizza.<BR><BR>For example, in every restaurant I visited in Florence and Venice, I noticed the pizza looked exactly the same as it looks in the USA. <BR><BR>In Rome I was served a fantastic pizza unlike anything I ever had in the USA. It is hard to describe except to say the crust was extremely thin. It was delicious.<BR><BR>In Naples I was served yet a different style pizza, also unlike anything I ever had in the USA: The tomato sause was so liquid I had to eat it with a spoon. This probably does not sound good in print, but the taste was wonderful!<BR><BR>The difference seemed to be between northern Italy and southern Italy, with northern Italian pizza being the same (or maybe worse) than it is in the USA; and southern Italian pizza being much, much better than USA pizza.<BR>


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