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j_999_9 Apr 27th, 2006 11:14 AM

(Not that you would, but) Don't try to sneak marijuana into Italy via aiports
 
On our last trip to Italy, our son ended up borrowing a backplack from a friend of a friend.

We arrived at Pisa Airport, and as soon as we cleared customs, two drug-sniffing dogs jumped on my son's back and starting barking like crazy.

The cops were reasonably courteous but they marched us into a room and searched everything, telling us we were suspected of carrying marijuana (I speak some Italian).

The search turned up nothing and they sent us on our way, so we figure the backpack had some residue in it that attracted the dogs.

If they're on to residue like that, imagine what would happen if someone was carrying a real stash.

nytraveler Apr 27th, 2006 11:39 AM

Taking any sort of illegal drugs across any boder is nothing less than gross stupidity. All governments are looking for the stuff - often successfully - and other legal systems are much different than our own in terms of the accused's rights or lack thereof.

nytraveler Apr 27th, 2006 11:41 AM

And not that I know your son - but - borrowed backpack??? Really???

suze Apr 27th, 2006 11:56 AM

Darn, NYtraveler beat me to it! I think we can all agree and safely say taking illegal drugs thru any international airport is probably not a brilliant idea (not specific to the country of the type of substance).

L84SKY Apr 27th, 2006 12:01 PM

This reminds me of another thread where someone bought a suitcase second hand and had the same results.
I guess it's prudent to know where your luggage has been - or what it's been doing.

j_999_9 Apr 27th, 2006 12:09 PM

As to my son's behavior and responsibility, I'll plead the 5th. He's over 21 and responsible for himself. However, indeed, the bacpack was borrowed -- the night before we left he had to rush out to get it from a friend. My concern at the time of the incident was that there was something left in one of the compartments by the owner. Fortunately, there wasn't.

I mention this story because some people seem to think that Europe has a laid-back attitude about drugs -- I dunno, maybe it has something to do with legal weed in Holland. But be assured that it's no joke in Italy, for instance.


PalQ Apr 27th, 2006 12:13 PM

Strange that they're so tough on pot as i believe simple possession of a small amount in Italy has been decriminalized - i may be wrong.

Robespierre Apr 27th, 2006 12:17 PM

<i>I know! We'll smoke the backplack - I mean bacpack - I mean - aw, the hell with it.</i>

Neopolitan Apr 27th, 2006 12:22 PM

A dog at Miami once sniffed my carryon and a guard came to inspect. He asked me if I had any fruits or vegetables and I said no. The dog seemed to indicate otherwise and they searched my bag. Finally I told him that morning I did have an apple in the bag which I ate at the airport in Paris. He let me go. Apparently the dog could still smell the apple in my carryon. God those dogs are good. I've never figured out how the dog told him it was fruits or vegetables though instead of drugs. Do they have some sort of signals the dogs give?

PalQ Apr 27th, 2006 12:30 PM

This Beagle corps thing also happened to me at U.S. Customs - i had a carrot in my day pack and i was actually eating it waiting for my bags since i didn't want to take it thru Customs and a beagle comes up, sniffs my bag and plops his/her head on the bag and wouldn't move until the agent came and asked if i had any fruits or veggies in it - i explained no anymore but he still wrote me up and i had to have all my bags go thru some machine that could sniff out any foodstuffs.
Appaarently dogs are not trained to do both drugs and veggies even though marijuana is a plant and the beagles are often food sleuths i read in our local fish wrap talking about the airport dogs and how many people they bust carrying salamis, etc. back from Italy!

PalQ Apr 27th, 2006 12:32 PM

On occasion i've also seen dogs come on trains entering Italy from Switzerland, which has had loose drug laws - until Sep 2004 Switzerland actually had cannabis shops selling pot over the counter quite legally - they were shuttered though i heard in Sep 2004.

Neil_Oz Apr 27th, 2006 01:02 PM

I found the OP's story entirely believable, as the same thing happened to my daughter at Auckland and yes, it was a borrowed backpack. As she had to join a long and ever-growing line of backpackers waiting to be checked out by the (good-humoured) customs officers the problem is obviously a common one. I've been told that a cycle or two in a washing machine should fix the problem, but I'm not in a position to guarantee this.

Kavey Apr 27th, 2006 02:16 PM

A GOOD backpack is an expensive item (assuming we're talking a 50 litre cargo luggage one rather than a day bag). It's no big surprise that a 21 year old might choose to borrow one from a friend rather than buy a new one.

kenderina Apr 27th, 2006 02:57 PM

No signal with the dogs. Different dogs are trained for different things. Maybe there was some issue about people taking drugs in fruits or vegetables at that time, and they had trained dogs for smelling fruits :)

icithecat Apr 27th, 2006 06:47 PM

A cat loving coworker and her husband got 'Beagled' flying into Seattle from Victoria. A couple of public servants in their 50s. It became a problem because they missed their connection.

There, I verbed a noun, or something like that.

MissPrism Apr 28th, 2006 08:06 AM

A friend of mine came back from a trip to Jordan and a dog sniffed her and got very excited.
The handler told her that the dog would have barked if she'd had drugs and asked where she had been to pick up an interesting smell.
She said that just before getting the plane, she'd had a camel ride.
It seems that the dog had never smelled camel before.

PalQ Apr 28th, 2006 08:30 AM

Residue won't cause any problems - i read an account of the Italian drug inspectors where one guy got found with a few marihuana cigarettes and they said he could go because he had only a small amount for personal possession but those over the limit, whatever that may be, would be prosecuted.
US Customs dogs also sniffs for weapons and cash.
When boarding a flight for London recently, after we had gone down the gangway for the plane, two agents and dogs were sniffing people at random searching for cash in excess of the $10,000 you legally can take out of the country - they had folks trapped in the gangway and i guess could do the same for drugs, weapons, etc.

SAnParis Apr 28th, 2006 09:22 AM

Might want to post this on the Lonely Planet sight, it may do a little more good over there...lol.

WillTravel Apr 28th, 2006 09:57 AM

Residue can cause a problem. A few years ago, there was a notorious case where a couple crossing the border from British Columbia to Washington had their car seized, because there was either a full or half crushed marijuana seed in the back seat ashtray. They denied using pot in the car, and they had purchased the car used. I don't know the ultimate resolution.

I've also read there can be drug-sniffing dogs on trains in Europe, particularly going from a lax zone (e.g. the Netherlands) to a stricter zone.

And it hardly bears mentioning, but I've read on the more youthful forums of people who thought that sticking pot in a coffee can was a wise plan, because the coffee smell would overwhelm the pot. Not a good idea.

WillTravel Apr 28th, 2006 09:58 AM

Just to add another story, someone I know took a shuttle bus from Vancouver to Seattle some years ago. One young man on the bus was held up for a very long time (also holding up the rest of the bus passengers), precisely because his backpack attracted the attention of drug-sniffing dogs. He was finally allowed in, but I don't know if he would be today.

LoveItaly Apr 28th, 2006 02:07 PM

Something I learned in my last trip to Italy. My friends gave me a driving tour of the various prisons and jails in Florence (don't ask me why, I have no idea, LOL). But anyway they told me that in Italy if you are a citizen of the EU and are jailed you are incarcerated with all the other EU citizens. If you are are NOT a citizen of the EU you are incarcerated with all the other non EU Citizens and that although no prison/jail in Italy is good the ones for the non EU citizens are especially terrible. It was an interesting afternoon and not your typical &quot;tour&quot; of Florence.


Neopolitan Apr 28th, 2006 02:15 PM

&quot;And it hardly bears mentioning, but I've read on the more youthful forums of people who thought that sticking pot in a coffee can was a wise plan, because the coffee smell would overwhelm the pot. Not a good idea.&quot;

Horrible idea, and what's more, smoking that pot will keep you up at night!

Garfield Apr 28th, 2006 03:16 PM

Watch out in Seattle, they have a Pit-Bull thqat will destroy your bag if he gets a scent of something.

FainaAgain Apr 28th, 2006 03:37 PM

So... what is the best way to sneak 'er in?

Seriously, I heard on TV that a pickle (in a sandwich) smells the same as explosives to the sniffing dogs.

suze Apr 28th, 2006 04:27 PM

hey, i never saw a pit bull at SeaTac... really? when?

Cicerone Apr 28th, 2006 11:27 PM

I assume the backpack made it back through US Customs without incident. Unless you had washed the bag in Italy, kind of makes you wonder about US Customs now, doesn't it...?

adeben Apr 29th, 2006 01:01 AM

Try to smuggle ANY drug into Indonesia and recent trials confirm that either a life sentence or the death penalty awaits you. One Australian recently hanged, with others on death row. But still they try..

Neil_Oz Apr 29th, 2006 03:03 AM

It was Singapore where the young Australian was recently hanged, despite considerable public outcry and calls for clemency here. But yes, there are two under sentence of execution in Bali and another in Vietnam. The Indonesians appear to have been less than assiduous in following up their end of the supply chain, apart from one individual who died in suspicious circumstances after being apprehended by the police (presumably before he got a chance to implicate certain others). Almost certainly, police and justice systems in SE Asia (including Singapore) have been extensively corrupted by the drug trade, which encourages some cynicism about a few high-profile executions of foreigners. The mules are often caught, their controllers seldom.

JandaO Apr 29th, 2006 11:44 AM

I hear Rick Steves is really trying to get pot legalized in the USA. I agree with him. IMO smoking pot isnt that bad. Beer is stronger.

artlover Apr 29th, 2006 01:32 PM

Last time in custums there were 2 adorable black labs...had to resist from trying to pet them and give them dogtreats...what pitbulls?

And yes, I agree with the previous poster--3 cheers to Rick and Hempfeast! But, having said that, even with more liberal views on pot in Europe, it's still stupid to try to take any across boarders!

AR Apr 29th, 2006 02:06 PM

Reading this thread makes me proud of the efficiency of our (European) border controls. I sleep sounder in my bed knowing that you Yanks will never get away with bringing a carrot into my country. I rest easy.


Robespierre Apr 29th, 2006 02:56 PM

Maybe Rick Steves should start Drug Tourism into Mexico:

http://tinyurl.com/zudyk

It could only bolster the economy down there.
Might stop some illegal immigration.
Give the DEA less to do.
Make Mr. Steves very, <i>very</i> rich.

laclaire Apr 29th, 2006 06:29 PM

I has had so many problems with those dogs and customs officers at airports! Once it was an apple that I forgot to eat, another time I was on my way home from camp and, as I was going for my Riflery certificate, some of my stuff must have smelled of weapons, as I got stopped, sniffed, and then searched. Then there was a borrowed pair of jeans that landed me in the back room, and on my way back from Venezuela (I went for 4 days. . . a wedding), I got questioned for quite a while. . .
Officer: Why were you there for only 4 days?
Me: I went to a wedding
O: Were you there for the bride or groom?
M: Bride.
O: Where is the invitation? (i give it to him, he looks and continues) What language is this?
M: Hebrew.
O: So, they are white and not Venezuelan
M: Uh, there are white Venezuelans.
O: What does that mean?
M: Well, being Venezuelan does not exclude being white.
O: Step aside, please. Female assist!

And I will probably be searched over and over again thanks to those stamps in Arabic on my passport.

JeffreyJ May 3rd, 2006 06:50 AM

Yup, beware residue. A few years ago, flying out of Honolulu, my bag 'sniffed positive' for nitrate residue. I had no idea why, but the resulting delay when they searched most thoroughly not only my baggage but that of my family almost caused us to miss our flight. Later, upon reflection, I realized that I had used, the previous year, the suspected dufflebag on a hunting trip and had carried home a handful of expended shell cases in it. It certainly doesn't take much to leave a trace element.

&lt;grin&gt; But I will forever treasure the expression on the security person's face when he opened that duffle..I'd run a 10K race that morning, in Hawaiian humidity, and my sweatsoaked running gear was in there, sealed in a plastic bag. I thought he'd call for hazardous waste disposal then and there, but he bravely persisted, turning green all the while. Sometimes payback comes in strange ways!


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