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Not Grim Up North: a Trip Report from North England, Northern Ireland (and Ireland)

Not Grim Up North: a Trip Report from North England, Northern Ireland (and Ireland)

Nov 19th, 2007, 08:39 AM
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"several had native American-style headdresses - not sure why "

Because we've got a reputation for cheeky Scouse humour to maintain.
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Nov 19th, 2007, 11:22 AM
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fnarf--
so glad I came across this trip report. Enjoyed all of it. I had taken a fair amount of English history in college -- not an expert by any means -- and it is great to read about the actual details of place from the Industrial Revolution and some of what can still be seen.

I have seen the old Rick Steves video that features Blackpool and he very much depicts it as kitschy, so I don't think the Americans can blame him if they don't like it. He had some good footage of the ballroom, I remember.

When I was in England on exchange in the 80s, some of the college students wanted to see some of the local industry, so our homestay families arranged for us to visit a coal mine. You are perhaps the first person I've met on the travel boards who would have clearly enjoyed that experience...and probably had great questions to ask.

Anyway, I'll watch for the Belfast portion!
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Nov 23rd, 2007, 04:38 PM
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fnarf

After an hour or so of reading your observations of the north of England, I'm forced to believe that you are not American at all (great country that it is) and are in fact a Welsh person.

Your previous reference to Woolybacks as Lancastrians is an obvious Welsh resistance ploy to divert attention from the Welsh attraction to sheep.

As such, I suspect that if you are not from the island of Britain and are in fact an American as you say, then you are in fact from the state of Wyoming.

This said your reporting is truly insightful, most especially from a non native and as an ex-patriot Mancunian I found your description of my hometown as being funny, tongue in cheek and above all - truly reflective, a real achievement!

The next time you come however, don't do the tourist thing and partake of the fish and chips as Manchester is really, truly, madly, deeply about pie and chips. As a kid there were pie shops everywhere in Manchester - we lived too far from the sea to have decent fish and chips, Scarborough and Blackpool maybe but Manchester is Pie and Chips country - trust me on this! Steak and Kidney, Meat and Potato, Cheese and Onion - this is our staple diet.
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Nov 23rd, 2007, 05:11 PM
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I have only just discovered this extensive thread.

Why was I not previously advised?

This is fabulous. Publishable, print-ready......

I cast my mind back half a century -- to a brief period in my conventional Canadian upbringing, when I lived near Manchester.

("Beech House, Toft Road, Knutsford, Cheshire, England", as we were taught to recite to a policeman if lost).

Anyway, I am inflamed with a desire to visit these parts again, as I have not done for nearly 20 years.

Bravo, fnarf, for the wonderful and evocative rapportage.
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Nov 23rd, 2007, 05:18 PM
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hydelad, I'm intrigued to see if you really do come from the town of the Moors Murderers and Dr Shipman. It was cold and wet when I was there a month ago.
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Nov 24th, 2007, 04:11 AM
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Thank you for your kind comments.

We did have some pies in Manchester. My understanding is, however, that if you REALLY want pies, you should go to Wigan, which we didn't visit. Despite my protests, we just couldn't find the time.
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Nov 26th, 2007, 10:25 AM
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So many fabulous places yet to see!
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Nov 26th, 2007, 10:29 AM
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If you're going to Wigan, don't forget Uncle Joe's:

http://www.uncle-joes.com/index.cgi?...=page&pageno=4
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