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kaybee Dec 31st, 2025 01:26 PM

Northern Italy Itinerary Help
 
Hi! Looking for some feedback on an 11 day trip to the northern region of Italy end of August early September 2026.
Flying out of the east coast to Milan, driving straight to the lake region
3 nights in Varenna
2 nights in Garda
Driving to Dolomites for 3 night - base in either Ortisei or Val Gardena
driving back to Milan to spend the last 2 nights.
Does this sound doable and the best use of our driving time?
FYI our interests are sightseeing, eating light, hiking, beach/lake and just soaking in the culture.
Would love to hear your hotel recommendations as well in these areas. Thank you!

kja Dec 31st, 2025 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by kaybee (Post 17698103)
Flying out of the east coast to Milan, driving straight to the lake region

If you men the east coast of the U.S., you won't be safe to drive (safe for yourselves or anyone else on the road) for at least 36 hours. The problem is microsleeps, that you might not even realize you are having and that can't be avoided by sleeping on the plane -- you simply need time for your body's clock to adjust to the new location. Perhaps you could put your time in Milan at the start of your trip.

travelkam Dec 31st, 2025 08:43 PM

You don't need a car in Ortisei (free bus pass from hotel and cable cars) and Varenna (mainly ferries), and it's a lot of mileage RT Milan. If possible, open jaw flight arriving MXP, leaving VCE, or vice versa; rent one way car.

dreamon Dec 31st, 2025 09:44 PM

With the time you have available, I think you'd have a better holiday if you chose between lake Como and lake Garda (probably the latter if you want to also visit the Dolomites). Don't spend too much time getting from place to place. You don't really need a car to visit these places and it might be more relaxing to use local transport. Two stays plus Milan might work better for you too (you can add some local day trips if you want).

Depending on your flight home from Milan, it may be possible to stay somewhere on lake Como or lake Maggiore instead of Milan. For example, there is easy transport from Stresa to Malpensa airport.

Miwunk Jan 1st, 2026 02:49 AM

kaybee, I wrote you a PM (personal message).

Jean Jan 1st, 2026 09:36 AM

Just my thoughts...

Too many destinations that are far apart and each a little bit remote for a fairly short trip.

I'd want more than 3 nights in the Dolomites. For only two nights at Lake Garda, I'd stay in Malcesine rather than Garda. (But that's just my personal preference.)

I probably wouldn't drive immediately upon landing at Malpensa, partly because of fatigue risk but mostly because a car in Varenna is worthless. Riding the ferries makes more sense and is much more enjoyable. The car would likely sit untouched and you'd pay for the daily rental plus perhaps overnight parking. If you do drive, traffic and parking will limit what's realistic to do. In these last days of high season, it will probably be crowded everywhere.

I agree with dreamon about choosing between the lakes. If you dropped Varenna, you could train from Malpensa to Verona, nap on the train, and then make the short drive to either Garda or Malcesine. But if you dropped Varenna, Malpensa would only make sense if you had specific and priority plans for Milan.

At the end, you'll want to return the car somewhere other than IN Milan. You couldn't pay me to drive into Milan to return a car.

Hotels we have stayed at:

Hotel du Lac, Varenna
Hotel Lago di Garda, Malcesine
La Madrugada, Malcesine
Garni Walter, Ortisei
Garni Panoramik, Ortisei

kja Jan 1st, 2026 09:59 AM

BTW, the risk with driving after transatlantic flights isn't just fatigue, though that's certainly a substantial risk. The problem is that even if not fatigued, your body's internal clock is off.

kaybee Jan 1st, 2026 03:32 PM

Thanks for your input.

kaybee Jan 1st, 2026 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by kja (Post 17698107)
If you men the east coast of the U.S., you won't be safe to drive (safe for yourselves or anyone else on the road) for at least 36 hours. The problem is microsleeps, that you might not even realize you are having and that can't be avoided by sleeping on the plane -- you simply need time for your body's clock to adjust to the new location. Perhaps you could put your time in Milan at the start of your trip.


thanks for you input.

kaybee Jan 1st, 2026 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by kja (Post 17698266)
BTW, the risk with driving after transatlantic flights isn't just fatigue, though that's certainly a substantial risk. The problem is that even if not fatigued, your body's internal clock is off.

once again, thanks for your input.

kaybee Jan 1st, 2026 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by travelkam (Post 17698155)
You don't need a car in Ortisei (free bus pass from hotel and cable cars) and Varenna (mainly ferries), and it's a lot of mileage RT Milan. If possible, open jaw flight arriving MXP, leaving VCE, or vice versa; rent one way car.

thanks so much for your suggestions!

kaybee Jan 1st, 2026 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jean (Post 17698260)
Just my thoughts...

Too many destinations that are far apart and each a little bit remote for a fairly short trip.

I'd want more than 3 nights in the Dolomites. For only two nights at Lake Garda, I'd stay in Malcesine rather than Garda. (But that's just my personal preference.)

I probably wouldn't drive immediately upon landing at Malpensa, partly because of fatigue risk but mostly because a car in Varenna is worthless. Riding the ferries makes more sense and is much more enjoyable. The car would likely sit untouched and you'd pay for the daily rental plus perhaps overnight parking. If you do drive, traffic and parking will limit what's realistic to do. In these last days of high season, it will probably be crowded everywhere.

I agree with dreamon about choosing between the lakes. If you dropped Varenna, you could train from Malpensa to Verona, nap on the train, and then make the short drive to either Garda or Malcesine. But if you dropped Varenna, Malpensa would only make sense if you had specific and priority plans for Milan.

At the end, you'll want to return the car somewhere other than IN Milan. You couldn't pay me to drive into Milan to return a car.

Hotels we have stayed at:

Hotel du Lac, Varenna
Hotel Lago di Garda, Malcesine
La Madrugada, Malcesine
Garni Walter, Ortisei
Garni Panoramik, Ortisei

thank you so much for all your suggestions and information. Taking notes!

kaybee Jan 1st, 2026 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Miwunk (Post 17698179)
kaybee, I wrote you a PM (personal message).

how do I read read it?

kaybee Jan 1st, 2026 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by dreamon (Post 17698158)
With the time you have available, I think you'd have a better holiday if you chose between lake Como and lake Garda (probably the latter if you want to also visit the Dolomites). Don't spend too much time getting from place to place. You don't really need a car to visit these places and it might be more relaxing to use local transport. Two stays plus Milan might work better for you too (you can add some local day trips if you want).

Depending on your flight home from Milan, it may be possible to stay somewhere on lake Como or lake Maggiore instead of Milan. For example, there is easy transport from Stresa to Malpensa airport.

thank you so much for all your information!!

Miwunk Jan 2nd, 2026 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by kaybee (Post 17698378)
how do I read read it?

If you open the forum main page you'll find almost top right your Welcome and the informtion when your last visit at the forum was. And the next line is "Private Messages". Click and you'll see it.

jonrossjan Jan 3rd, 2026 03:57 PM

Driving from Malpensa to the lakes after a transatlantic flight? How about just taking the train. Also, driving back to Milan afterwards perplexes me. Where will you park the car? I’ve lived in Lombardia and have driven thousands of kilometers in that region so I KNOW that city and region and Milan is one of those cities that driving in can be extremely confusing what with ZTL and parking restrictions everywhere. Just take the train for all of it including whichever lake you choose to stay at.

neckervd Jan 4th, 2026 06:11 AM

Milan Malpensa airport is just about 30 miles from Lake Maggiore (Arona, Meina, Lesa, Belgirate, Stresa, Angera, Ranco, Ispra.....)
Ortisei OR Val Gardena doesn't make sense.Ortisei is just the most popular village in Val Gardena.
Buses in the Val Grdena area run at least every 30 minutes, trains to and from Milan every hr,

Jean Jan 4th, 2026 10:07 AM

Depending on your plans for the Dolomites area, Ortisei can make sense. For a short visit such as yours, it's easy to get to by car or public transportation, and there are multiple lifts within walking distance of almost anywhere in the town for easy access to hiking. You can use the buses to get around Val Gardena, but if you want to cover a lot of the area in a brief amount of time you'll see more if you have a car. Yes, it's popular (for good reasons, perhaps?) and gets lots of tourists. Some of those tourists are Italians!


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