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Jul 6th, 2017, 01:59 PM
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It sounds as though perhaps the appeal of this route ranks rather far down on your list of cycling trips. Or, did I get you wrong? What are your favorite areas?
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Jul 6th, 2017, 11:33 PM
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Great question. I think that generally anywhere in Denmark and Holland is easier to get around. Germany, especially the Mosel or the Elbe is fine. France down the west coast pretty good.

Still the food is better in Italy and the weather.
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Jul 7th, 2017, 05:38 AM
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Bilbo--although we did not bike (and based on your review and my spouses knees will not bike), our impression of this route (in reverse from Pisa to Nice) was like yours--aside from "box checking", Monaco and Genova both were underwhelming but outside of the cities, very beautiful.
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Jul 7th, 2017, 06:12 AM
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I admire your willingness to continue riding in areas with traffic. I've given up - not enjoyable for us.
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Jul 7th, 2017, 07:15 AM
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generally I'd say that the motorists were better than those on my daily commute in the UK.
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Aug 5th, 2017, 01:25 AM
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I've been reading your negative and basically racist commets about Genova all over the boards now for a couple of weeks, so I decided to look up your trip report to see how long you stayed, where you stayed and what attractions you visited.

It's never a good idea to stay in a cheap hotel near the train station in an Italian port city if you have a problem being around immigrants. It would also help to know that historically, Genova has always had a large population with ancestors from Africa, the Levant, China, South America (in particular now Ecuador). Genova was the port of departure for the Crusades, and its sailors and ships, under the command of Cristoforo Colombo, "discovered" the New World. Globalisation is a 2-way street, and Genova is the most global port of Italy, and has been for centuries.

The areas of interest around Genova are not the ferry port and the train station, but the streets around the Ducal palace, the Roman gate, the Duomo and the Strada Nuova (via Garibaldi). It's not clear from your trip report how far you ventured from your hotel, and whether you bothered to take in any of Genova's many sites of architectural & historic importance -- or whether your wife's bad back and your need to do laundry made the 2 days you stayed there quite limited.

Get it that tourist reports are what they are, but if you've any interest in helping other travelers, might think about (a) Genova is not a city for cyclicist, especially ones deciding to park themselves at the uphill train station (b) 2 nights with no interest in seeing the cultural highlights of the city is a poor basis for an opinion about Genova as a tourist destination (3) the dense medieval layout of the city was constructed as a defensive maneuver, and is now the largest unaltered medieval city in Europe and (d) that immigration has been a feature of the urban culture of Genova since the 9th century.

Also get it that you won't be returning to Genova to revise your opinions, but without context, repeating your sour remarks about people who don't look Italian to you is as a portrait of Genova is dishonest, frandly.
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Aug 5th, 2017, 01:26 AM
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frankly!
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Aug 5th, 2017, 07:00 AM
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"I've been reading your negative and basically racist commets about Genova all over the boards now for a couple of weeks, so I decided to look up your trip report to see how long you stayed, where you stayed and what attractions you visited. "

Sounds like 'stocking' to me...
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Aug 5th, 2017, 07:08 AM
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"Stocking" - huh?
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Aug 5th, 2017, 07:52 AM
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Massi, saddened in your remarks.

At no point do I make "basically racist remarks".

I have no problem being amongst immigrants or non-immigrants. I don't even know which they are.

I wish you well.
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