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edfromphilly May 3rd, 2025 11:48 AM

Netherlands and Belgium / September 2025
 
My wife and I plan to visit the Netherlands and Belgium for two weeks in September. We fly into Amsterdam and out of Brussels. We are in our sixties, active, and enjoy museums, biking, and nature walks. We plan to travel by train and are considering the following itinerary: Amsterdam (3 nights); Haarlem (1 or 2 nights); Delft (2 nights); *train to Belguim* and Antwerp (1 night); Bruges (3 nights); Brussels (2 nights). We welcome input from forum readers, and wonder (i) is Haarlem worth spending a night or two, or should we travel to Utrecht and then to Delft: (ii) should we stay in Ghent for a night or just stop and see it on the way from Bruges to Brussels (or just skip it altogether). Thanks in advance for any guidance!

kja May 3rd, 2025 03:24 PM

FWIW, it seems to me that 3 nights -- so 2 full days during which you will potentially be experiencing jet lag -- is very little for Amsterdam, particularly if you enjoy museums. I'm not sure what I would cut to add time there, but you might want to give it some thought.

Enjoy!

lavandula May 3rd, 2025 04:32 PM

Haarlem is worth a couple of nights in itself, but a lot of people stay in Haarlem instead of Amsterdam (as Amsterdam is expensive) and just commute in to Amsterdam. Haarlem is pretty much a dormitory town to Amsterdam. So this is an option open to you also. I like Amsterdam though and would not want to take any time away from it so it's your call. You could also see Haarlem from Amsterdam if you don't want to repack your bags and move hotels.

Also about seeing Ghent - yes, Ghent is worth a visit but if you want to sandwich it in between Bruges and Brussels on a travel day that would work well enough. That third day in Bruges could be the travel day when you see Ghent.

Wondering if your proposed itinerary includes travelling days, or whether you can add days to account for this?

So your itinerary could look like this:
1 Arrival day into Amsterdam; jetlag
2 Amsterdam
3 Amsterdam
4 Haarlem (local transport from Amsterdam)
5 Haarlem (local transport from Amsterdam)
6 travel day to Delft, dinner in Delft
7 Delft - visit De Porceleyne Fles
8 travel day to Bruges; dinner and a beer in Bruges
9 Bruges
10 travel day to Brussels - see Ghent on way; maybe late dinner in Brussels
11 Brussels
12 Brussels
13 flight home from Brussels

So if it's 14 days you have an extra day to play with. You could put it in in Bruges (which I would recommend) or Delft. I would not try adding a destination, this is a balanced trip. The only long travel day you have is the day from Delft to Bruges but everything else is short hops.

Maybe someone else will have some comments here about how to tweak the itinerary, but for two weeks this is quite good.

Lavandula

Tulips May 3rd, 2025 10:18 PM

For me that would be way too many hotel changes. Every time you move to another hotel you loose time checking in and out, packing. Haarlem is 15 minutes by train from Amsterdam, just visit for a day and stay in Amsterdam. You say you like biking and nature walks, so spend an extra day in Amsterdam to take a cycling trip. Cycling along the Vecht river, for example. It's a gorgeous area with small towns and mansions along the river. Google Loenen, Kasteel De Haar.
In Belgium Gent deserves more than a stopover. I am not a fan of Brussel so would add time to Gent and Antwerp, but others may disagree. If you have 3 nights in Brugge maybe add a cycling trip to Damme from there. You can cycle one way and take a boat back if you like.

kja May 3rd, 2025 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by Tulips (Post 17651981)
For me that would be way too many hotel changes. Every time you move to another hotel you loose time checking in and out, packing. Haarlem is 15 minutes by train from Amsterdam, just visit for a day and stay in Amsterdam.

I think most travelers would second this advice, but I'll admit that I often choose to change hotels even when I could get by with day trips. I like seeing places in different lights as a day progresses and I like having images of different hotels to anchor some of my other memories of various places. For me, a distance of 15" by routine public transportation would probably not be enough to change locations, but I see pros and cons to relocating, even if the distance is short.

hetismij2 May 4th, 2025 12:40 AM

You could base in Haarlem and see all three cities you want to visit very easily. Delft is only 45 minutes by train from Haarlem, either direct or with a change in Leiden.
Equally you could spend you entire two weeks in either country and barely scratch the surface, seeing things away from the usual tourist triangles.

If you are determined to move hotel so much start in Haarlem for your jet lag, maybe hire bikes and ride out through the dunes to Zandvoort and back, then go to Amsterdam for your museum fix. Don't forget you need to prebook timed entry for most museums now.
Amsterdam to Delft is an hour on the train.

Please bear in mind Amsterdam is not representative of the Netherlands, any more than say Las Vegas is the US.

I wouldn't bother with Brussels either and would spend that time on your other choices.

edfromphilly May 4th, 2025 12:56 PM

Thanks - I'll think that over...

edfromphilly May 4th, 2025 12:57 PM

Wonderful - thanks for your sugestions!

edfromphilly May 4th, 2025 12:57 PM

thanks!

edfromphilly May 4th, 2025 01:00 PM

Thanks - we don't mind the hotel changes, as we pack lightly, and enjoy the evenings in new places.

edfromphilly May 4th, 2025 01:00 PM

Thanks for your suggestions. I will consider them.

cdnyul May 5th, 2025 08:42 AM

In Brussels, I rent bikes from cyclo.org, at their Bourse Metro locations.
Good bikes, well geared for the grades.
Biking the Royal Palace -Parc du Cinquantenaire- Park van Tervuren axis makes for a full day of green spaces, museums and forests.

menachem May 8th, 2025 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by edfromphilly (Post 17651903)
My wife and I plan to visit the Netherlands and Belgium for two weeks in September. We fly into Amsterdam and out of Brussels. We are in our sixties, active, and enjoy museums, biking, and nature walks. We plan to travel by train and are considering the following itinerary: Amsterdam (3 nights); Haarlem (1 or 2 nights); Delft (2 nights); *train to Belguim* and Antwerp (1 night); Bruges (3 nights); Brussels (2 nights). We welcome input from forum readers, and wonder (i) is Haarlem worth spending a night or two, or should we travel to Utrecht and then to Delft: (ii) should we stay in Ghent for a night or just stop and see it on the way from Bruges to Brussels (or just skip it altogether). Thanks in advance for any guidance!

Either stay in Amsterdam for the entirety, since you've never been there before (expensive though) and do all your other Dutch destinations as day trips by train, or stay somewhere along the Rotterdam - Amsterdam mainlin. Leiden would be an ideal location for this, also because it' s 10 minutes by train from Schiphol. But you can do this with Haarlem as a base or opt for The Hague or Delft (super romantic and relatively cheap). It' s all on the same railway main line, so you're well served by the train system. I advise against using Utrecht for this, as it is the outlier, not being in the western Randstad area.

Unsolicited advice I know, but consider Delft for the entirety of your Dutch trip You' ll really get to know small city life and Delft is extra special once the tourists are gone, and you can still do all other destinations as day trips. And when you move to Belgium, you' re 15 minutes by train from Rotterdam Centraal and its Belgium connections.


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