Need quick list of Basic French
 

I'm headed to Val d'Isere and Geneva next Friday and my french is 35 years out of date.
Since most people speak englsh I know it's not a big deal but does anyone have a short list of basic words and phrases so I can be polite. I don't need the Berlitz course or even how to get my room, just the basics like asking where the bathroom is or asking for the check, asking for a table for 4, etc.

Thanks

Merci Beaucoup

I like Lonely Planet's French phrase book. It has exactly what you need, and is a perfect small size for travel.

BTW not everyone in Geneva speaks English, not by a long shot!

"does anyone have a short list of basic words and phrases so I can be polite" - as President de Gaulle sid to Marget Thatcher "Non"

FlyBob
Reminds me of my trip to Paris in 1973. I lost my eurail map and it could only be replaced at the French Natl. Railway station. Got to Paris and found the right window.
I asked politedly for a new map and the guy behind the window said "Je ne parle pas anglais"

So I asked in French and he leaned down and said in perfect english "your french is terrible" and he shut the window.

Been gun shy ever since.

cigalechanta
the francethis way site was perfect

actually, in Geneva I have so far gotten along by butchering german, frencha nd italian (usually in the same sentence)

gfeibleman
Great storey - i can believe it!!

Now you know why Americans are oftentimes intimidated by the French - I haven't figured out why so many of them are unkind to Americans, yet in the areas where you find them the most rude...they certainly are counting on benefiting from our tourist $$. And I'm not talking about the "ugly American" tourists who deserve a cold reception. I too tried to use my French in Paris as much as possible to show my eagerness to at least try and I many times was either totally ignored or given the impression they had no idea what I was trying to say and didn't want to help me out either. We're taking a trip to Provence i Spring and I'm hoping for a warmer hospitality in that region. We'll see!

French-speaking Swiss (Geneva area) are kind about tourists butchering the language... it's very different than Paris, in my experiences.

carolitis, I stop in Provence every year, speak little French and still have made many friends there.

For those who've experienced a cold shoulder, did you open your remarks with a "bonjour monsieur" type of greeting..?

good for you travelnut
In my 20 plus visits to Paris I have never experienced " a cold shoulder" or rudeness (o.k.: one waiter).
Several times when I used my ( poor) French the sales people ( often young ) switched to English. One sales girl said she needed the practice.

I've been to Paris and parts of northern France twice, with my next trip starting next Tuesday. I always start my conversations with "Bonjour Monsieur/Madame" followed soon by "Pardon. Parle vous Anglais?". I've never had a rude response, but instead have found French people to very friendly and helpful. When the person does not speak English, they have always been willing to find someone who speaks enough for us to accomplish what we need. I always make a point of complementing them on their English and telling them that I wish I knew even half as much French as they know English. With every encounter I end up feeling like I've made a new friend.

I honor and respect residents of whatever country I visit and France is the only place that I have received less than a warm reception even though I was being polite. But as I said earlier...I've only been to Paris and I would hate for travelers to the US to base their opinions of the whole country on having interacted with Americans in only one city. Trust me, I'm anxious to give it another try this April...I'm not going with a chip on my shoulder but rather I'll do as I usually do and understand that I am their "guest". Seeing that many of you have had nothing but good experiences gives me hope.

Reading this thread was starting to make me a bit nervous about my upcoming trip to Paris. I'm one of those people who has no facility for languages. My kids both took French in high school and laugh at me when I try to pronounce monsieur. I really need to find a list of basic French phrases that are spelled out phonetically.

But this thread also made me think about the fact that, even in my daily life, in the course of running errands, etc., I run across some store clerks, bank tellers, etc. who are friendly and helpful, some who are rude. Is Paris really any different?

> I always start my conversations with "Bonjour Monsieur/Madame" followed soon by "Pardon. Parle vous Anglais?"<

So do I, but I add SVP. :)

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Hi CAP,

Go to www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php
to hear the words properly pronounced.

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Thanks, Ira!

We used a Rick Steves phrase book, which does give pronunciations. The book isn't always organized for the way you need it, but does provide sections for use in restaurants, hotels, etc. It served us well enough - We found Parisians very friendly and helpful. The only rudeness was at a pharmacy when I forgot to begin politely with "Bon Jour, Monsieur."

elnap, was this part of a guide book? Or a separate book? Sounds like just what I need!

CAPH52, I did not have any problem in Paris not speaking French. I did learn my pleasantries, but other than that just tried to be organized ahead of time, so I wasn't in the position of needing to ask someone on the street for directions (or whatever). A good phrase book was helpful for decifering restaurant menus.

Thanks, suze. I'm really not worried about not being fluent. But would like to be able to say "monsieur" without anyone laughing!:D

While my daughter wasn't the best French student (nor did she have the best teachers), her four years of high school French should at least help with signs, menus, etc. I hope!;)

As we are on the Fodors site, have you tried the Fodors free language training which includes pronunciation?
http://www.fodors.com/language/

Bonjour!

I lived in France for almost a year, and although many people do speak some English, some important advice: when you enter any kind of shop or establishment, try to find the closest shopkeeper or salesperson, make eye contact, and say "Bonjour Madame" or "Bonjour Monsieur". This is a politeness French folks expect - and since this isn't really an expectation in America - you can see why the French might think Americans come off as rude.

I second the suggestions made by others about a basic phrasebook.

Know how to find the bathroom, how to verify payment, ask directions, etc.

Don't underestimate the power of big smile, "excusez-moi" and "merci beaucoup"!

Hope this helps, happy travels!

Thank you, robjame! I had no idea that was on this site!:)

Sounds like very good advice, kas238. And good to be reminded that often <i>we're</i> the ones who come off as rude!

My apologies to you, gfeibleman, for highjacking your thread!:)

&gt;Author: ira
Date: 02/24/2007, 12:26 pm

&gt; I always start my conversations with &quot;Bonjour Monsieur/Madame&quot; followed soon by &quot;Pardon. Parle vous Anglais?&quot;&lt;

So do I, but I add SVP. :)&lt;

Absolutely! I just forgot to put that in the post.

I figure that if I'm in someone else's country and asking them to use MY language, then I'd better say &quot;please&quot;. I don't know French, but I've learned the key phrases involved in pleasantries and when to use them.

&gt;kas238
Don't underestimate the power of big smile, &quot;excusez-moi&quot; and &quot;merci beaucoup&quot;!&lt;

That's exactly the kind of thing I mean. People make fun of the French for having all these social conventions, but why should it be otherwise? This is really just about treating people the way you yourself would want to be treated. Practicing these few rules and using these few phrases will go a long way and in 99% of the cases result in a wonderful cultural experience.

the living language link was great
we were visiting a Fodors editor in NYC in last month and he was just telling us about it

That along with the other links give me what I need

I agree and I don't underestimate the power of big smile, &quot;excusez-moi&quot; and &quot;merci beaucoup&quot;!

I survived 10 days in Sicly and found that a buongiorno and Grazie with a smile went a long way. People critizied my bad spelling when I posted by Italian list but sometimes poeple just want a few words to work with. No substitute for learning how to pronounce them but...

thanks all

By the way, on the Italian page a couple years ago, Bobthenavigator said that Fodors had a good list on it's home page but I never found it. Does Fodor's have a separate list other than the living language section?