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Scarlett May 24th, 2005 07:22 PM

Thank you Bob. I enjoyed this so much and loved the photos.
One thing puzzled me, there are people who need ceramic shopping breaks??
((F)) Grazie for the time you spent putting this here for us to enjoy~

OReilly May 24th, 2005 07:43 PM

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Thank you Bob, for a wonderful trip report. :)

I have been thinking about visiting Sicily for two years now. Two things have prevented me from doing so:

1. Driving terror, which I think I have dissipated somewhat with by positive experience in Umbria

2. Difficulty/time getting there. I must do it over a four-day weekend, for the FIRST visit.

Two questions Bob:

- I have visited Rome, Florence, Venice, Bologna, Naples and environs, The Dolomites, Tuscany, Umbria. Am I ready for Sicily or should I consider somewhere else first?

- If I have only 3-5 days, where should I base myself to make the most of the uniqueness of Sicily? I am passionate about art, architecture, and history. Is 3-5 days enough?

Thanks Bob.
Best regards Ger

bobthenavigator May 25th, 2005 12:52 PM

Ger, You are probably ready but I would save it for when you have more time. It can fit well with an Amalfi coast itinerary or even a Puglia sojourn. But, I would not try to squeeze Sicily in the cracks--it deserves at least 10 days.

Eloise May 25th, 2005 03:20 PM

Ger,

I agree with Bobthenavigator that Sicily needs more than 3 to 5 days, but I also recall your mentioning at one time that you add short trips of 3 to 5 days to business trips in Europe.

I think you could do a number of things in 5 days:

1. Eastern Sicily: Taormina, Siracusa, and a day trip to one or two of Noto, Ragusa and Modica;

2. "Central" Sicily: Palermo, Monreale (which is basically a suburb of Palermo), and either Segesta and Selinunte or Agrigento. (Some people prefer Selinunte because it is less crowded than Agrigento, but Agrigento does have one of the most intact Greek temples anywhere. But the temple and theatre in Segesta are also quite wonderful.)

There will be a number of places well worth seeing that would not be included in either of the above "itineraries," such as Cefalu, the Villa Casale near Piazza Armerina, Caltagirone (if you are into ceramics), a short hop across the strait from Messina to Reggio di Calabria to see the two splendid Riace bronzes. Erice is considered a must-see by many people, but I personally was totally underwhelmed, except by the almond pastries of Maria Grammatico.

I would not give up on Sicily because you cannot give it 10 days at a time. It's a unique palimpsest of cultures -- Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Arab, Norman, Swabian, and Spanish-Bourbon (and I've probably forgotten one or two). The food is wonderful and quite unlike anything anywhere else in Italy (the Arab influence lingers on even after 1000 years); wine is plentiful, good and inexpensive; the people are warm and outgoing.

You would not regret going to Sicily, I am sure.

bobthenavigator May 25th, 2005 04:17 PM

Well said Eloise !

OReilly May 25th, 2005 05:31 PM

You guys are the BEST :)

Wonderful response Eloise, thank you. Yes, I try to take those weekends tagged onto my business trips. You have given me lots to think about.

Many thanks to ou both.

regards Ger

starrsville May 26th, 2005 02:02 PM

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bookchick May 27th, 2005 03:58 AM

Bob, what a treat! Thank you! And I couldn't agree more about getting lost, whether you're in a car or on foot, getting lost is great and can reveal so many gems and treasures, as long as one doesn't stress out. My best friend went to Siracusa and Catania years ago and is still talking about the trip and sharing the photos, and I can't blame her, because it all sounds and looks delightful. I'm really happy you gave Palermo a chance. Mr. and Mrs. Go have their work cut out for them if they hope to top this trip report---but then again, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?

Leaving today for my trip to Rome, and then one of your favorites, the Italian Lake District---report to follow, and I already have my notebook in my purse!

Thanks again,
BC

bobthenavigator May 27th, 2005 06:57 AM

Hey BC, Molto grazie and I hope your trip is wonderful. Yes, we do expect a report. The Go family is off to the AC in June. They have rented an apt. above Positano and have been getting their legs in shape--they will need to.

bobthenavigator May 29th, 2005 07:58 AM

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gfeibleman May 30th, 2005 09:45 AM

Bob - my wife and I are currently planning an 8 or 9 night trip to Sicily in early November. 1st time to there, 2nd time to Italy. We plan to arrive from Malta and then fly to Rome. Just read your thread. We would welcome your suggested itinerary for that span and time of year.
Since it will be late fall we expect the beach areas to be closed. My Italian is limited to good pronunciation with no comprehension so ordering a cappucino and saying good evening is about it.

Gil

bobthenavigator May 30th, 2005 10:42 AM

Gil, I will have to assume you are arriving at Catania from Malta. I also assume you will be driving in Sicily. Given those assumptions, I would pick 3 destinations. Taormina would be one, and Palermo would be another--the third would depend on you and your interests. You can fly to Rome from both Palermo and Catania. So, tell me more and I will try to help.

gfeibleman May 30th, 2005 12:33 PM

Bob - Malta is 5 nights. it appears there is a ferry to Pozzallo (but not sure if it will be running in November). If we go that way will rent a car and head out from there. Catania is the next ferry choice. You all made Taormina sound good. You also have concinced me to brave Polemro, drop the car then spend 3 nights there at the end the trip and fly to Rome. We are figuring 9 nights in Sicily and 5 in Rome but we have been to Rome before and have no flight yet from Sicily so we are still flexible. My wife and I have concentric interests. I like the connection and trying to communicate. To me, an hour or so in a salamaria is heaven whereas my wife would like an educational tour of anything. So I take lots of photos and try to take it all in and she wants to learn something. Between us I learn something and I make sure she is fed. We love the discovery of a nice little town, finding music, expploring but at the same time a good restauarant, a good bed and feeling like we took in some history is a good day. Maybe the best answer to what our interets are: our favorite italian experience is seeing a flyer in Spoleto for a recital in Bevagnia, driving there, going to the Teatro and then talking and pointing my way into the Theatre Guild Luncheon for 3 hour feast with 12 italians and their spouses from england, germany and france and italy. Favorite photo is my wife's face in an apron full of truffles in Norcia. Does that help? Thanks

bobthenavigator May 30th, 2005 12:55 PM

Gil, We actually were in Pozallo and I doubt if you can rent a car there--check it out. Perhaps thru Auto Europa.
If you start there, and based on your style, I would not miss Noto--a real jewel. You could also stay at Il Limoneto as a base for SE Sicily to include Siracusa. Then, up to Taormina and finally to Palermo. Yes, drop the car there but perhaps try to see Monreale before you enter Palermo. Another stop enroute would be the beach town of Cefalu. Good luck !

Elizabeth_Anne Jun 2nd, 2005 08:09 AM

Bob,

I truly enjoyed your report. I am in the initial stages of planning an 8 day trip in late Feb - early Mar next year (the time is basically locked in). I am hoping to pick your brain!

I know we want to spend 4 nights in Palermo. Trying to figure out whether we should do 3 nights Taormina and 1 in Cefalu. Or should we just focus on the western coast? Perhaps 1 night Cefalu and 1 in Trapani to see Erice and Segesta and 2 in Agigento to see the area.

Weather wise, it looks like on the west coast, its lows of 50 and highs of 59. On the east its lows in the lower 40s and highs of 62.

I lean toward putting in Taormina, but am unsure whether the temps should make us wait. Obviously there will be no beaching it, but I am hoping the town itself is worthy, plus we could take a trip to the North Side of Etna.

Also, we are not really wanting to rent a car - we rented one in Spain for the hill towns - and we found it quite harrowing - don't want to do that again if we can avoid it.

Do you think either itinerary can be done well without a car - and do you think doing Taormina is feasible in late Feb?

I appreciate your thoughts!
EA

bobthenavigator Jun 4th, 2005 06:29 AM

Hello EA, With so little time I would stay north on this trip. It is very hard to get to the Greek temple sites using public transport. Start in Palermo, then to Cefalu, and end in Taormina---you can fly back from Catania. The train station at Taormina is actually at Giardini/Naxos, but is very close to town---I believe you will need to connect in Messina. I think those 3 destinations will give you a good taste of Sicily--I would keep it simple that time of year.

Eloise Jun 4th, 2005 06:36 AM

Palermo-Agrigento is two hours by train.

USNR Jun 4th, 2005 07:05 AM

Bob, this is one splendid report! This November my wife and I plan to go to Sicily, a return pilgrimage for me after more than half a century.

Back then, I was in the service and Sicily was a very different place, let me tell you. Catania was off-limits because local Communists had been kidnapping American servicemen for ransome. Palermo was seedy, dirty, rundown.

In some places, you could see horrendous bomb and shelling damage, especially around Palermo and Messina. Most bridges had been blown up, and replaced with steel military Bailey Bridges.

Food was in short supply. A lot of the kids were dressed in what can only be described as rags. Wonderful lemons, lots of coconuts, pitiful pizza made out of who-knows-what.

The roads were in complete disrepair. We carried medical supplies to villages up in the hills where we were greeted as if we were Men from Mars. People just stared at us. The heat was like a furnace under a never-ending sun. Lots of dust, little water, and none you could drink. The local wine was OK but nothing to write home about.

It will be interesting to see how things have changed.

bobthenavigator Jun 4th, 2005 09:45 AM

Mille grazie USNR, I assume that you are retired Navy by that handle. Yes, it will be a real contrast for you. Good luck and holler if I can help.

Elizabeth_Anne Jun 6th, 2005 05:23 AM

Bob,

That is just the type of advice I needed! Thanks so much!!

Take care,
EA

bobthenavigator Jun 6th, 2005 01:53 PM

Prego EA---have fun !
Did you see my photo gallery at worldisround.com

TexasAggie Jun 6th, 2005 02:43 PM

Fantastic trip report and subsequent advice, thanks so much for sharing.

bobthenavigator Jun 13th, 2005 07:37 AM

Grazie Aggie !

bobthenavigator Oct 28th, 2005 06:01 AM

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bobthenavigator Apr 25th, 2006 06:26 AM

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easygoer May 27th, 2006 12:28 PM

Well, we did it. I booked our air tickets to Sicily. We will have two weeks mid-September to explore.

Bob, it was your report that helped us decide where to go. We would like to follow in your footsteps. We will have one less night than you did. We have 14 nights. Which location should we cut back on? I was thinking 3 nights in Palermo instead of 4. Your thoughts?

• Arrive Catania—transfer to Taormina—3 nites
• Get the car---drive to Siracusa area---3 nites
• Drive to near Piazza Amerina---2 nites
• Drive to west coast via Agrigento—stay at Selinunte—3 nites
• Drive to Palermo via Monreale—drop car---4 nites (Change to 3 nights???)

We would appreciate some additional hotel recommendations. We prefer to stay in towns with restaurants within walking distances. I am not sure I could convince my husband to stay at an Aguriturismo. I would like to try it. Do you think he would like Agriturismo Gigliotto? The website looked lovely. Food is a major player in our decision-making.

Our budget is 150 – 250 Euros

Taormina Hotel Villa Schuler (room recommendation?) or Villa Fabbino
Siracusa – we want to stay on Ortygia. Domus Mariae had good reviews on Trip Advisor
Piazza Amerina - ?
Selinunte - ?
Palermo – Hotel Principe de Villa Franca has some negative reviews on Trip Advisor.

A couple of questions, did you go to Segesta on the way to Palermo?

In addition, we want to tour Etna from Taormina. Should we pick up our car a day earlier and do it ourselves, or take a tour bus?

Thanks to all Fodorites for making our European travels so perfect. If anyone is planning a trip to Tuscany and Cinque Terre, check out my trip report. Click on easygoer. Thanks in advance.

ms_go May 27th, 2006 12:31 PM

Bob the nav is navigating through Croatia and Greece at the moment. You might want to top this for him in a few weeks.

easygoer May 27th, 2006 01:19 PM

Thanks for the info ms go. Croatia is on our list too. Perhaps that will be our destination for 2007. I'll post my request for info under a new post.

bettyo70 May 27th, 2006 04:25 PM

easygo: Villa Schuler is superb! Don't remember exactly which room we stayed in, but definitely ask for a balcony with seaview!

If you click on my screen name, you'll find "Betty's Consolidated Sicily Trip Report" if you're interested.

Cheers!

mikewalsh Jun 10th, 2006 07:11 AM

Hi Bob,

We'll be going from Siracusa to Piazza Armerina and Enna. Michelin.com route finder suggests we backtrack north to Catania then west to Piazza Armerina. I note you went more direct, through Caltagirone. Just wondered how the roads/trip was (S124?), and whether you even considered this alternate route? I'd rather take more scenic roads than freeways.

Thanks,

Mike

evelyntrav Jun 10th, 2006 07:52 AM

Road from Siracusa to Piazza Armerina: We went through Palazzolo Acreide to Caltagirone (worthwhile stop), Vizzini, to Piazza Armerina. I gave my map away so don't remember all of the towns, but the road was fine. One note, there is a new road before Vizzini which is not on the map and is not 124. I wish I could recall the number, but it is gone from my memory... perhaps 653. It had us really confused, but it is the correct road and is was not on our new map.

bobthenavigator Sep 19th, 2006 09:47 AM

Hmmm ! The diversion thru Caltagirone was not optional. Susan has that ceramic gene she must satisfy.

bobthenavigator Sep 20th, 2006 05:20 PM

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JWE Dec 2nd, 2006 12:51 PM

Dear Bob,
Thanks so much for your many interesting posts. I have a question for you. Did you leave your luggage in the car when you visited Agrigento? I've been trying to figure out what to do with that. (I can't carry mine as we'll be in Italy for six weeks going from warm Sicily to cool Piemonte, so I'll need more clothes than for a briefer trip. Thank you! Jane

bobthenavigator Dec 2nd, 2006 01:30 PM

Jane, we parked in the public lot which is fairly safe. And, we only stayed about 2 hours.

bobthenavigator Dec 6th, 2006 05:30 PM

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littlear Dec 12th, 2006 11:57 AM

we need a tour guide when we arrive in Palermo in April off our cruise ship. Any reccom.??? Please reply.
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rfor Feb 25th, 2007 01:30 AM

Greetings Bob! I thought that I would let you know that a few months ago, when starting to plan for our 3 week trip to Sicily in March/April 07, I read your report - not knowing much about Sicily. After months of thorough research and coming up with an itinerary, I revisited your trip report to find that i have arrived at a similar itinerary! I should have simply gone with all your suggestions! Would have saved much time - although i HAVE enjoyed the ride!
Thank you for your report
r

hidebs Mar 10th, 2007 08:31 PM

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bobthenavigator Mar 11th, 2007 04:05 AM

Thanks rfor !


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