Naples to Paestum
Mar 31st, 2013, 11:17 AM
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Naples to Paestum
As a result of suggestions on previous threads, DH and I added Paestum to our 6-day itinerary (2 nights in Naples, 4 nights in Sorrento) in that part of Italy.
It appeared that it would be a lot easier to get to Paestum from Naples than Sorrento, although we'd have to haul ourselves out in the morning in time to get an early train (well, 8:30 is early for us) or have a very abbreviated visit - after walking to the site and back to the station, a 1PM departure from Naples would leave about 3-6PM actually in the ruins and museum. Maybe 3 hrs. is enough, I don't know. Then we could do the archeological museum in Naples in the morning before we go to Paestum and save the next morning currently scheduled for the museum for something else. (But we'd be nervous taking the last train back; we're too old to spend the night sleeping in a field.)
Trying to find out whether two 3-day tutta la regione Campania Arte Cards for 5 days would be economical (6th day would be to Capri and I don't think anything is covered there) , I tried to find train fares with no luck. RailEurope site won't even give me a schedule and ItaliaRail comes up with schedules, but when I select any departure, after much time grinding and calculating, the site tells me it can't give me a price, "try another solution". Buses all seem to be from Salerno and taking the SITA bus to Salerno, then changing to the train sounds like a lot of time-consuming trouble. Searching travel forums, I come up with a lot of 3 to 6-yr-old posts that I don't much trust due to age.
Has anyone had more recent experiences getting from Naples to Paestum - and back the same day? Any idea about train fares? Also, the Arte Card site seems a big vague about the specifics of what transportation to Paestum is covered, so I can't actually be sure the train from Naples would be. We're leaving in 3 days (10 days till the Paestum trip) and I can't imagine why lItaliaRail can't come up with a fare so close to the time we're going. Is there another site I should be using?
It appeared that it would be a lot easier to get to Paestum from Naples than Sorrento, although we'd have to haul ourselves out in the morning in time to get an early train (well, 8:30 is early for us) or have a very abbreviated visit - after walking to the site and back to the station, a 1PM departure from Naples would leave about 3-6PM actually in the ruins and museum. Maybe 3 hrs. is enough, I don't know. Then we could do the archeological museum in Naples in the morning before we go to Paestum and save the next morning currently scheduled for the museum for something else. (But we'd be nervous taking the last train back; we're too old to spend the night sleeping in a field.)
Trying to find out whether two 3-day tutta la regione Campania Arte Cards for 5 days would be economical (6th day would be to Capri and I don't think anything is covered there) , I tried to find train fares with no luck. RailEurope site won't even give me a schedule and ItaliaRail comes up with schedules, but when I select any departure, after much time grinding and calculating, the site tells me it can't give me a price, "try another solution". Buses all seem to be from Salerno and taking the SITA bus to Salerno, then changing to the train sounds like a lot of time-consuming trouble. Searching travel forums, I come up with a lot of 3 to 6-yr-old posts that I don't much trust due to age.
Has anyone had more recent experiences getting from Naples to Paestum - and back the same day? Any idea about train fares? Also, the Arte Card site seems a big vague about the specifics of what transportation to Paestum is covered, so I can't actually be sure the train from Naples would be. We're leaving in 3 days (10 days till the Paestum trip) and I can't imagine why lItaliaRail can't come up with a fare so close to the time we're going. Is there another site I should be using?
Mar 31st, 2013, 02:34 PM
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I do hope you get some answers. We spent a night in Salerno to more easily access Paestum, and took a bus to the site. Also went to Capri from Salerno.
This isn't meant as a suggestion; it was just what we ended up doing because Paestum was high on our list of priorities.
I have hired a driver from Sorrento to Paestum for clients, but it sounds like that is out of your budget. The same for us, and that was why we ended up spending a night in Salerno and taking the bus from there to Paestum and back.
This isn't meant as a suggestion; it was just what we ended up doing because Paestum was high on our list of priorities.
I have hired a driver from Sorrento to Paestum for clients, but it sounds like that is out of your budget. The same for us, and that was why we ended up spending a night in Salerno and taking the bus from there to Paestum and back.
Mar 31st, 2013, 03:41 PM
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Hi P,
www.trenitalia.com has fares as low as 11E if you wish to buy online.
However, the direct trains are regional trains. You can't buy those tickets online. Also, they don't require reservations, but you can buy them.
You needn;t take the SITA bus to Salerno; the train goes there.
However, you won't get to Paestum any earlier.
What we did was to take the Ferry to Salerno and then the train to Paestum. The ferry docks only a few blocks from the train station. Very scenic ride along the coast.
For Ferry schedules Positano – Amalfi - Salerno (P.zza della Concordia):
See http://www.coopsantandrea.com/it/ser...ea/servizi.asp
Enjoy your visit.
Buy your tickets after you get to Naples.
www.trenitalia.com has fares as low as 11E if you wish to buy online.
However, the direct trains are regional trains. You can't buy those tickets online. Also, they don't require reservations, but you can buy them.
You needn;t take the SITA bus to Salerno; the train goes there.
However, you won't get to Paestum any earlier.
What we did was to take the Ferry to Salerno and then the train to Paestum. The ferry docks only a few blocks from the train station. Very scenic ride along the coast.
For Ferry schedules Positano – Amalfi - Salerno (P.zza della Concordia):
See http://www.coopsantandrea.com/it/ser...ea/servizi.asp
Enjoy your visit.
Buy your tickets after you get to Naples.
Mar 31st, 2013, 03:47 PM
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>>>RailEurope site won't even give me a schedule and ItaliaRail comes up with schedules, but when I select any departure, after much time grinding and calculating, the site tells me it can't give me a price, "try another solution". <<<
Don't ever use RailEurope as they don't even show half the trains available.
>>>>but when I select any departure, after much time grinding and calculating, the site tells me it can't give me a price, "try another solution"<<<
Use Trenitalia (it's the Italian train company so not sure why you are trying to use other sites). Usually you can get prices for the local trains by entering a date within the next 7 days. Today you can't. It could be Trenitalia is loading summer schedules/fares. A ticket on an R train will be around 7-8€ one way. Try Trenitalia again in a few days.
Not all trains are covered by the Campania Artecard. Only the regional trains, not IC. There is supposed to be some bus service a couple of times a day (Naples/Paestum), but can't find it.
>>>2 nights in Naples, 4 nights in Sorrento<<<
>>>Trying to find out whether two 3-day tutta la regione Campania Arte Cards for 5 days would be economical (6th day would be to Capri and I don't think anything is covered there)<<<
Your 2 night Naples and 4 nights Sorrento (how many days?) would be covered on two cards (it covers all transport in Naples and most down the coast).
Don't ever use RailEurope as they don't even show half the trains available.
>>>>but when I select any departure, after much time grinding and calculating, the site tells me it can't give me a price, "try another solution"<<<
Use Trenitalia (it's the Italian train company so not sure why you are trying to use other sites). Usually you can get prices for the local trains by entering a date within the next 7 days. Today you can't. It could be Trenitalia is loading summer schedules/fares. A ticket on an R train will be around 7-8€ one way. Try Trenitalia again in a few days.
Not all trains are covered by the Campania Artecard. Only the regional trains, not IC. There is supposed to be some bus service a couple of times a day (Naples/Paestum), but can't find it.
>>>2 nights in Naples, 4 nights in Sorrento<<<
>>>Trying to find out whether two 3-day tutta la regione Campania Arte Cards for 5 days would be economical (6th day would be to Capri and I don't think anything is covered there)<<<
Your 2 night Naples and 4 nights Sorrento (how many days?) would be covered on two cards (it covers all transport in Naples and most down the coast).
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IMHO, Paestum is well worth the time it takes to get there! 3 hours for the site and museum is, I think, pushing it a bit, but might work -- I spent about 2 hours on site and about 1 hr in the museum, but there was also the time it took to get to/from the train station (maybe 20" each way) and time to have a break (I spent about 1/2 hour for a caprese salad - I couldn't resist the freshly made buffalo mozzarella!) Of course, the break and return to the train station were after the museum closed, so you might be able to fit it in if you are mindful of the time and are willing to leave Paestum a bit later than you might already have been planning.
I spent the night before in Salerno, and not just for the relative ease of transit to Paestum - I wanted to visit Salerno itself, which is IMO vastly underrated. But I'm not sure you have enough time in the area to fit it in.
Hope that helps!
I spent the night before in Salerno, and not just for the relative ease of transit to Paestum - I wanted to visit Salerno itself, which is IMO vastly underrated. But I'm not sure you have enough time in the area to fit it in.
Hope that helps!
Mar 31st, 2013, 11:07 PM
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You're doing fairly well!
But whilst the Trenitalia site is fine for checking the times of their trains, your difficulties with finding prices for public transport in our area stem mostly from looking in the wrong place!
All the 'ashore' trips you've mentioned are covered by the UnicoCampania system... a combined ticketing setup for the Campania region's various public transport providers...
Try starting here:
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...onna=biglietti
... but note that in the "town" box you need to enter municipality names (in their Italian version, so Napoli not Naples, Ercolano not Herculaneum etc) rather than those of districts.... which applies particularly for Capaccio - within whose territory Paestum is!!
As you complete that box, a list of possibles should appear, narrowing as you type in more letters... click on the one you want when it's there to see the various types of ticket.... and do so again on their "names" (in blue) to see any conditions that apply, re length of validity, ID requirements, area and/or services covered, etc.
So.. for Paestum from Naples, using more or less any appropriate combination of Regionale trains, ANM, SITA and/or CSTP buses, you'd need a zone U7 ticket.... after the very recent price rise, now €6.40 as a single, €18.30 for an all-day version Mon/Fri or €9.90 for one of those for use on either a Saturday or Sunday.
Have try, and see if you find the same?
.......................
Those (within the coverage limits mentioned above) or the 3 day 'all region' Artecard should be fine anywhere within Campania on any of the services shown here:
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...action=aziende
The main exclusions are: boats and ferries etc, Trenitalia trains of classes such as IC and Freccias, Italo Treno trains and bus routes served by private companies (the HoHo opentop buses, and the Curreri Viaggi airport / Sorrento run in particular!), and indeed any on Capri.
But, for journeys starting and finishing within the Sorrento Peninsula / AC comunes listed, most visitors will have to use these - rather than the equivalent UnicoCampania ticket:
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...anner=costiera
Unless you've sites or museums to visit, perhaps worthwhile for the second 3 days - although one of those wouldn't get you to Naples for the Rome train?
For that, the UnicoCampania ticket now costs €4.10.
...........................
With no promises they'll still apply by the date you travel, for the CSTP bus route 34 - between Salerno and Paestum... out:
http://www.cstp.it/orarioasp/extraun...rezione=andata
.. and back:
http://www.cstp.it/orarioasp/extraun...ezione=ritorno
...........................
On the day we made this visit - going to the temples and museum, although not spending long amongst the city ruins - we were there for about 3hrs 15 minutes, which included a quick lunch stop..
http://www.pbase.com/isolaverde/paestum
A decade back, but I've read of little that has changed - other than there perhaps now being no staff at all at the Paestum rail station...
...........................
OK with all that?
Peter
But whilst the Trenitalia site is fine for checking the times of their trains, your difficulties with finding prices for public transport in our area stem mostly from looking in the wrong place!
All the 'ashore' trips you've mentioned are covered by the UnicoCampania system... a combined ticketing setup for the Campania region's various public transport providers...
Try starting here:
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...onna=biglietti
... but note that in the "town" box you need to enter municipality names (in their Italian version, so Napoli not Naples, Ercolano not Herculaneum etc) rather than those of districts.... which applies particularly for Capaccio - within whose territory Paestum is!!
As you complete that box, a list of possibles should appear, narrowing as you type in more letters... click on the one you want when it's there to see the various types of ticket.... and do so again on their "names" (in blue) to see any conditions that apply, re length of validity, ID requirements, area and/or services covered, etc.
So.. for Paestum from Naples, using more or less any appropriate combination of Regionale trains, ANM, SITA and/or CSTP buses, you'd need a zone U7 ticket.... after the very recent price rise, now €6.40 as a single, €18.30 for an all-day version Mon/Fri or €9.90 for one of those for use on either a Saturday or Sunday.
Have try, and see if you find the same?
.......................
Those (within the coverage limits mentioned above) or the 3 day 'all region' Artecard should be fine anywhere within Campania on any of the services shown here:
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...action=aziende
The main exclusions are: boats and ferries etc, Trenitalia trains of classes such as IC and Freccias, Italo Treno trains and bus routes served by private companies (the HoHo opentop buses, and the Curreri Viaggi airport / Sorrento run in particular!), and indeed any on Capri.
But, for journeys starting and finishing within the Sorrento Peninsula / AC comunes listed, most visitors will have to use these - rather than the equivalent UnicoCampania ticket:
http://www.unicocampania.it/index.ph...anner=costiera
Unless you've sites or museums to visit, perhaps worthwhile for the second 3 days - although one of those wouldn't get you to Naples for the Rome train?
For that, the UnicoCampania ticket now costs €4.10.
...........................
With no promises they'll still apply by the date you travel, for the CSTP bus route 34 - between Salerno and Paestum... out:
http://www.cstp.it/orarioasp/extraun...rezione=andata
.. and back:
http://www.cstp.it/orarioasp/extraun...ezione=ritorno
...........................
On the day we made this visit - going to the temples and museum, although not spending long amongst the city ruins - we were there for about 3hrs 15 minutes, which included a quick lunch stop..
http://www.pbase.com/isolaverde/paestum
A decade back, but I've read of little that has changed - other than there perhaps now being no staff at all at the Paestum rail station...
...........................
OK with all that?
Peter
Apr 1st, 2013, 07:26 AM
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>>>(But we'd be nervous taking the last train back; we're too old to spend the night sleeping in a field.)<<<
The last train back is 21:48 so it would be hard to be stuck in a field. Regional trains back to Naples depart:
18:01
18:42
19:29
20:45
21:48
You would break about even on the Artecard unless you also use it for transport in Naples (to museum or to and from the station)or planned to rent the audio guide (discount with card).
Train to Paestum 12.80 (round trip)
Paestum 6€
Archaeology museum 8€
audio guide at the archaeology museum with card 2.50€
I don't think there is a discount at Paestum for the audio guide, but might be.
The last train back is 21:48 so it would be hard to be stuck in a field. Regional trains back to Naples depart:
18:01
18:42
19:29
20:45
21:48
You would break about even on the Artecard unless you also use it for transport in Naples (to museum or to and from the station)or planned to rent the audio guide (discount with card).
Train to Paestum 12.80 (round trip)
Paestum 6€
Archaeology museum 8€
audio guide at the archaeology museum with card 2.50€
I don't think there is a discount at Paestum for the audio guide, but might be.
Apr 1st, 2013, 01:52 PM
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Kybourbon, when I looked at the train schedule the last train I saw was the 18:42. Will have to check again. Doing the archeological museum in the AM, taking an early afternoon train to Paestum and returning at 7:30 or 8:45 might be a good idea. Think I have a restaurant or two nearby in my notes, so we could get dinner there and take the 8:45 train back. That would give us the next day pretty much open except for moving from Naples to Sorrento.
RailEurope was a link that came up when I was booking trains between Rome/Naples/Florence. Never got as far as schedules when I discovered that the prices they quoted were appreciably higher than on the TrenItalia site. Just checked them again in desperation when I couldn't get fares to Paestum.
Thanks, Peter, for all your trouble. Now I think I'm going to cry. (Or drink.) Or maybe send your links to DH, whose usual trip involvement consists of my sending him links re: SIM cards and his finding the most convenient place to get one in our arrival city (so as to avoid another near-divorce experience like in Scotland some years ago). I actually did stumble on the Unicocampania site but it was late at night (and maybe all those little cars whizzing by didn't help, either) and I gave up trying to figure it out. (I did figure out about Roma, Napoli, and Firenze pretty quickly on the TrenItalia site when I made reservations to Naples, Napels-Florence, and Florence back to Rome.) DH can work on figuring out Arte Card transportation while I scan a few more sections of travel books for uploading onto the Kindle he insisted on buying so we don't have to haul heavy books - but then discovered that some I wanted weren't available electronically. One more chore for me, unfortunately. (And in 48 hrs., we'll be flying somewhere over the Big Water. A lot more to do than scanning before then.)
I have found planning this trip to be the most difficult one I've ever done, including Greece and Egypt, which I expected to be difficult and weren't. Links don't work (click the British flag and go back to the intro page instead of a translation), websites haven't been updated for a year or two. (And don't even ask about getting Uffizi tickets on that notorious site.) Doesn't help that about the only Italian I can work out is when the words are similar to English or Spanish. Just figuring out daily itineraries to account for things like the Bargello closing at 13.50 instead of late afternoon, different hours or days for different parts of museums/churches, places closed on Sun. or Wed. instead of Mon. (Or Tues., which got me in trouble after I made hotel and train reservations to arrive in Naples Tues. at noon, planning to see the archeological museum that afternoon. <I>Then</I> I find out Naples is closed on <I>Tues.</I
Figured we'd at least break even on the first Arte Card with Herculaneum the afternoon we arrive, Paestum the next day, and the museum on day 3 plus Circumvesuviana and Naples bus/metro to the museum; train to Paestum would mean a reasonable savings. If we do Herculaneum on Day 1, museum and Paestum on Day 2, and maybe stop by Pompeii on the way to Sorrento on Day 3, that would probably mean a second card wouldn't be a good idea. (I think I recall that there's a left luggage place at Pompeii Scavi station.) The second card was mainly for Pompeii & Oplontis on Day 4 and SITA bus down the coast on Day 5. If Pompeii is already done, the second card probably wouldn't be worth it. And we'd have an extra day to go to another town or two in the area.
RailEurope was a link that came up when I was booking trains between Rome/Naples/Florence. Never got as far as schedules when I discovered that the prices they quoted were appreciably higher than on the TrenItalia site. Just checked them again in desperation when I couldn't get fares to Paestum.
Thanks, Peter, for all your trouble. Now I think I'm going to cry. (Or drink.) Or maybe send your links to DH, whose usual trip involvement consists of my sending him links re: SIM cards and his finding the most convenient place to get one in our arrival city (so as to avoid another near-divorce experience like in Scotland some years ago). I actually did stumble on the Unicocampania site but it was late at night (and maybe all those little cars whizzing by didn't help, either) and I gave up trying to figure it out. (I did figure out about Roma, Napoli, and Firenze pretty quickly on the TrenItalia site when I made reservations to Naples, Napels-Florence, and Florence back to Rome.) DH can work on figuring out Arte Card transportation while I scan a few more sections of travel books for uploading onto the Kindle he insisted on buying so we don't have to haul heavy books - but then discovered that some I wanted weren't available electronically. One more chore for me, unfortunately. (And in 48 hrs., we'll be flying somewhere over the Big Water. A lot more to do than scanning before then.)
I have found planning this trip to be the most difficult one I've ever done, including Greece and Egypt, which I expected to be difficult and weren't. Links don't work (click the British flag and go back to the intro page instead of a translation), websites haven't been updated for a year or two. (And don't even ask about getting Uffizi tickets on that notorious site.) Doesn't help that about the only Italian I can work out is when the words are similar to English or Spanish. Just figuring out daily itineraries to account for things like the Bargello closing at 13.50 instead of late afternoon, different hours or days for different parts of museums/churches, places closed on Sun. or Wed. instead of Mon. (Or Tues., which got me in trouble after I made hotel and train reservations to arrive in Naples Tues. at noon, planning to see the archeological museum that afternoon. <I>Then</I> I find out Naples is closed on <I>Tues.</I
Figured we'd at least break even on the first Arte Card with Herculaneum the afternoon we arrive, Paestum the next day, and the museum on day 3 plus Circumvesuviana and Naples bus/metro to the museum; train to Paestum would mean a reasonable savings. If we do Herculaneum on Day 1, museum and Paestum on Day 2, and maybe stop by Pompeii on the way to Sorrento on Day 3, that would probably mean a second card wouldn't be a good idea. (I think I recall that there's a left luggage place at Pompeii Scavi station.) The second card was mainly for Pompeii & Oplontis on Day 4 and SITA bus down the coast on Day 5. If Pompeii is already done, the second card probably wouldn't be worth it. And we'd have an extra day to go to another town or two in the area.
Apr 1st, 2013, 04:36 PM
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Hi Polly, you have 1.5days in Naples in which you want to visit 3 sites.
You arrive in Naples train station at noon and were planning Paestum the following day leaving from the same station at 1PM.
You're already there
why not just drop your bags in luggage storage and buy your site/transportion passes (1hr is plenty of time) and go to Paestum on Day 1?
Day 2; The Archaeological Museum and Herculaneum which is a good pair-up, I've done it before.
The metro is close to the museum and in 1 stop you're in the train station, 5min walk to the Circumvesuviana platforms which is also in the train station complex.
Trains probably run around every 15min to Herculaneum and it's a ~20min ride and then a ~10min walk thru the site's gates/ticket counter and to the actual entrance.
Herculaneum is small, I did their audioguide tour at a slow pace with a bad knee in 2hrs, even if the Suburan Baths were open in 3hrs you could visit the entire site in detail.
You arrive in Naples train station at noon and were planning Paestum the following day leaving from the same station at 1PM.
You're already there
why not just drop your bags in luggage storage and buy your site/transportion passes (1hr is plenty of time) and go to Paestum on Day 1?Day 2; The Archaeological Museum and Herculaneum which is a good pair-up, I've done it before.
The metro is close to the museum and in 1 stop you're in the train station, 5min walk to the Circumvesuviana platforms which is also in the train station complex.
Trains probably run around every 15min to Herculaneum and it's a ~20min ride and then a ~10min walk thru the site's gates/ticket counter and to the actual entrance.
Herculaneum is small, I did their audioguide tour at a slow pace with a bad knee in 2hrs, even if the Suburan Baths were open in 3hrs you could visit the entire site in detail.
Apr 1st, 2013, 05:45 PM
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The card gives you free admission for the first two sites you visit. You can't choose which ones as they are deducted when the card is scanned. Pompeii and Herculaneum fees are 11€ each. You would get 1/2 off if you went to Pompeii on day 3.
>>>(I think I recall that there's a left luggage place at Pompeii Scavi station.)<<<
At the site, not the train station.
>>>Kybourbon, when I looked at the train schedule the last train I saw was the 18:42. Will have to check again.<<<
You might not have changed the time in the search box or click next solution at the bottom of the list of trains to show later trains.
If you are only going down the coast for one day from Sorrento, you can buy a one day transport ticket (was about 7€ a couple of days ago).
>>>(I think I recall that there's a left luggage place at Pompeii Scavi station.)<<<
At the site, not the train station.
>>>Kybourbon, when I looked at the train schedule the last train I saw was the 18:42. Will have to check again.<<<
You might not have changed the time in the search box or click next solution at the bottom of the list of trains to show later trains.
If you are only going down the coast for one day from Sorrento, you can buy a one day transport ticket (was about 7€ a couple of days ago).
Apr 1st, 2013, 09:16 PM
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Left luggage at the Pompeii site? Is that going to be a slog with rolling bags? A lot of lifting and carrying over ruts, curbs, potholes, etc.? I was 27 in '71 when we did our 11-wks-and-a-Eurail-pass one summer when we were in grad school, so I'll leave the math to you. (This was before luggage wheels but we had much more energy and strength.) But after an unfortunately long up-and-down, up-and-down trek through corridors with luggage in a London tube station with broken lifts and escalators a few years ago, I have given up both public transportation with luggage (unless really easy like the Athens metro, for instance) and longish hikes along rough roads and walkways.
I did change the train departure time to 6PM or 7PM (default was 1PM) but thought that would give me the rest of the day. Since there are no trains between 8:30AM and about 1PM, it wasn't such a stretch to believe the last one was around 6:30 or so.
Not a bad idea to go to Paestum on Tues., Rostra, if the train gets in on time. I only recall the earliest departure after the 8:30, but now that I know I can come back later, I'll check on other trains in case we can't make the earliest afternoon one.
I did change the train departure time to 6PM or 7PM (default was 1PM) but thought that would give me the rest of the day. Since there are no trains between 8:30AM and about 1PM, it wasn't such a stretch to believe the last one was around 6:30 or so.
Not a bad idea to go to Paestum on Tues., Rostra, if the train gets in on time. I only recall the earliest departure after the 8:30, but now that I know I can come back later, I'll check on other trains in case we can't make the earliest afternoon one.
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Might I suggest a couple more things that are perhaps worth crowding into that Kindle?
The PDF version of April's "Guest in Rome" magazine, just available...
http://www.unospitearoma.it/images/s...ad/04_2013.pdf
(Bother - I really didn't need to know about that Helmut Newton exhibition!)
... and the most recent edition (but - as of now - only for last Xmas/New Year) of something similar for Naples and its surroundings..
http://www.inaples.it/public/quinapoli/quinapoli.pdf
We find them both very handy... as this can be - simply copy and paste from Italian web pages, and don't be too inflexible when reading the English it offers!
http://translate.google.co.uk/
Sure you'll have a great time...
Peter
The PDF version of April's "Guest in Rome" magazine, just available...
http://www.unospitearoma.it/images/s...ad/04_2013.pdf
(Bother - I really didn't need to know about that Helmut Newton exhibition!)
... and the most recent edition (but - as of now - only for last Xmas/New Year) of something similar for Naples and its surroundings..
http://www.inaples.it/public/quinapoli/quinapoli.pdf
We find them both very handy... as this can be - simply copy and paste from Italian web pages, and don't be too inflexible when reading the English it offers!
http://translate.google.co.uk/
Sure you'll have a great time...
Peter
Apr 2nd, 2013, 04:06 AM
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>>>Left luggage at the Pompeii site? Is that going to be a slog with rolling bags? A lot of lifting and carrying over ruts, curbs, potholes, etc.?<<<
It's across the street from the train station, but you might have some stairs.
>>>Trains probably run around every 15min to Herculaneum and it's a >>>
Every 30 minutes.
It's across the street from the train station, but you might have some stairs.
>>>Trains probably run around every 15min to Herculaneum and it's a >>>
Every 30 minutes.
Apr 2nd, 2013, 05:38 AM
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<<<<>>>Trains probably run around every 15min to Herculaneum and it's a >>>
<<<<Every 30 minutes.
A little more frequent than that!
Unlike for Pompei, one can also use services on the NAPOLI-BARRA-SAN GIORGIO-TORRE ANNUNZIATA-POGGIOMARINO-SARNO line!
Peter
<<<<Every 30 minutes.
A little more frequent than that!
Unlike for Pompei, one can also use services on the NAPOLI-BARRA-SAN GIORGIO-TORRE ANNUNZIATA-POGGIOMARINO-SARNO line!
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Apr 2nd, 2013, 08:11 AM
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<<<Left luggage at the Pompeii site? Is that going to be a slog with rolling bags? A lot of lifting and carrying over ruts, curbs, potholes, etc.?>>>
I'm 90% certain the Sorrento bound train drops you on the farside of the tracks so you will have to use the tunnel under the tracks, so stairs down and up both ways?
From there it's ~100yds to Left Luggage which if they haven't moved it is at the ticket turnstiles entrance and not in the ticket selling booth complex.
To give you an idea
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~klio/ma...ap-pompeii.jpg
You can see the Circumvesuviana tracks ==== going up on the leftside of the map and the shaded rectangle [:::] is the train station, the word 'Marina' to the lower right is entrance complex.
<<<A little more frequent than that!
Unlike for Pompei, one can also use services on the NAPOLI-BARRA-SAN GIORGIO-TORRE ANNUNZIATA-POGGIOMARINO-SARNO line!>>>
Thanks! That's why I figured I'd just split the 30min Napoli-Sorrento with a ballpark figure of 15min.
I'm 90% certain the Sorrento bound train drops you on the farside of the tracks so you will have to use the tunnel under the tracks, so stairs down and up both ways?
From there it's ~100yds to Left Luggage which if they haven't moved it is at the ticket turnstiles entrance and not in the ticket selling booth complex.
To give you an idea
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~klio/ma...ap-pompeii.jpg
You can see the Circumvesuviana tracks ==== going up on the leftside of the map and the shaded rectangle [:::] is the train station, the word 'Marina' to the lower right is entrance complex.
<<<A little more frequent than that!
Unlike for Pompei, one can also use services on the NAPOLI-BARRA-SAN GIORGIO-TORRE ANNUNZIATA-POGGIOMARINO-SARNO line!>>>
Thanks! That's why I figured I'd just split the 30min Napoli-Sorrento with a ballpark figure of 15min.
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You've gotten tons of great advice already, but I'll chime in, too..if it's not too late.
We went to Paestum via train as a day trip from Naples.
It was fabulous, one of the highlights of our trip. What a sight to see those incredible temples in a gorgeous landscape! And hardly anyone around, too.
We used the Artecard for our journey, no problem.
Do NOT miss that 8:30 train. At the time we went, there wasn't another train until much later. Double check the train schedule, for sure, before you go.
We had hoped to stop in Sorrento on the way back, but we ran out of time. Next trip. I'd love to spend more time in the Paestum area, it was just gorgeous.
Don't miss the painted tombs in the museum.
I see Oplontis is on your list, too. We absolutely love that, too.
We went to Paestum via train as a day trip from Naples.
It was fabulous, one of the highlights of our trip. What a sight to see those incredible temples in a gorgeous landscape! And hardly anyone around, too.
We used the Artecard for our journey, no problem.
Do NOT miss that 8:30 train. At the time we went, there wasn't another train until much later. Double check the train schedule, for sure, before you go.
We had hoped to stop in Sorrento on the way back, but we ran out of time. Next trip. I'd love to spend more time in the Paestum area, it was just gorgeous.
Don't miss the painted tombs in the museum.
I see Oplontis is on your list, too. We absolutely love that, too.
