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My Itinerary 2 weeks France/Germany-please review.

Apr 22nd, 2008, 07:45 PM
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My Itinerary 2 weeks France/Germany-please review.

Flying into Geneva in September-
Annecy, 3 nights, Avignon, 4 nights,
Colmar, 3 nights, Heidelberg, 3 nights, last night Frankfurt airport hotel.
Any suggestions for tours, restaurants and places not to miss appreciated.
Travel by train and bus.
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Apr 23rd, 2008, 01:09 AM
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3 nights for Heidelberg is a lot. Think about staying in the Rhein valley and making a daytrip to Heidelberg.
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Apr 23rd, 2008, 08:37 PM
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Thank you traveller--any suggestions as to where in the Rhein valley?
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Apr 24th, 2008, 03:34 AM
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There are many options to stay:

- Rüdesheim, a lively town at the southern mouth of the Rhein valley

- Bingen on the opposite bank

- Lorch

- St. Goar

- Oberwesel

- Boppard

- Braubach (where the Marksburg is located)

There are a zillion hotels. Use www.hrs.com for hotel search. Here on this forum are also numerous threads with hotel recommendations in the Rhine valley.
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Apr 24th, 2008, 06:43 AM
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Also - 3 nights for Annecy is a lot.

Unless you include Chamonix, an hour or so away - then it's not a lot.
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Apr 24th, 2008, 01:29 PM
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topping for violetduck
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Apr 24th, 2008, 08:26 PM
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traveller-checking out recommendations-thanks.

TuckH-Plan to do a day trip from
Annecy and would like to go to
Chamonix, but the train connections are not very good. I may try to find a tour, but have other options for day trips. If you know of a good tour out of Annecy to Chamonix please let know. Thanks.

Now to soogies, please tell me what topping means--I see it often and should know by now. Thanks

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Apr 25th, 2008, 02:13 AM
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I use a car so am not familiar with trains; perhaps someone else can help. Maybe head there upon arrival in Geneva. Annecy is a nice town but one night should do it, IMO.

"Topping" brings your thread back up to the top of the list - gives it a fresh look making it easier to be seen.
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Apr 25th, 2008, 03:10 AM
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If you do stay in Heidelberg,I highly recommend a side trip to Bad Wimpfen, a beautiful town
The Romanesque cathedrals at Worms and Speyer are also well worth visiting, although I am not sure how easy this is to do via public transit or with organized tours. I think you could find good train connections
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Apr 25th, 2008, 11:24 AM
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Thanks TuckH-
Glad to know about topping. On previous trips our train connections have usually been very easy, but this one is not. From Geneva to Chamonix there are 2-3 connections sometimes involving three modes of transportation. Then from Geneva to Annecy, we are taking a bus because the connections there are not the best either. There are several towns/villages to visit by boat on Lake Annecy also it seems.
And vttraveller, thanks.
I have been reading about Bad Wimpfen and there is a good and quick rail connection so hope to get there.
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Apr 29th, 2008, 08:29 PM
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Frieburg or Colmar? Which would you choose and why? Thanks.
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Apr 30th, 2008, 12:49 AM
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Freiburg:

- quaint town
- gorgeous cathedral
- excellent train connections
- access to the Black Forest (easily by train): landscape, lakes, typical Black Forest farmhouses, rustic cuisine (fresh trout, smoked ham, spaetzle, venison..), cuckoo clocks..

Colmar:
- quaint town
- art museum
- excellent food
- picturesque villages (Eguisheim, Riquewihr..)
- access to the Vosges (however, not by train)

As a German, I would probably prefer Colmar and the surrounding villages. But I always had a car when I was there. I can't tell about public transport in the area.

I know there is a bus which connects Freiburg and Colmar. It takes 1:17.
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Apr 30th, 2008, 03:02 AM
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I would also vote for Colmar over Freiburg although both areas are well worth visiting. the mixture of French and German culture in Alsace is very interesting

From Colmar you could easily add a day trip to Strasbourg and visit the beautiful Gothic cathedral there.

The Unterlinden museum in Colmar is in a beautiful historic convent and has an outstanding collection including Grünewald's Isenheim altarpiece in the chapel.

Also if you are interested in wine, Alsace is a great choice. We toured the area including vineyards by car. I am sure you could find wine tours by bus from either Colmar or Strasbourg. I know there are walking tours in many of the vineyard areas

This is a link from the official tourist "Alsasez-Vous" tourist site about public transport options
http://www.tourisme-alsace.com/en/tr...transport.html
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Apr 30th, 2008, 06:56 AM
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Thank you two travelers---Colmar it will be. Colmar is on the itinerary, but Freiburg looked wonderful also. Just too many wonderful places and so little time to see them.
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