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Munich - What to see and Best Day Trips???

Munich - What to see and Best Day Trips???

Aug 8th, 1998, 01:52 PM
Europe on My Mind
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Munich - What to see and Best Day Trips???

What should I see in Munich for 3-4 days?? What are the best day trips by train from Munich?? Would you recommend a trip from Munich to Venice for 2-3 days? Help!
Aug 9th, 1998, 10:13 AM
John Grant
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Get a German rail pass, 2nd class is fine, and simply go to the Hauptbahnhoff in the morning and choose your destination. All cities and towns 1-2 hours are worth seeing, many gems unharmed in Germany's many wars. Nurenberg, Bamberg, Ingolstadt, Garmish-Partenkierke, Passau, Regensburg, Augsburg are all recommended. Read up in Fodors and seek your interests. In Munich don"t miss Bavrian National Museum,Nymphenburg Palace, Marianplatz and Weinhaus Nuen Restaurant. Be prepared to have dinner with perfect strangers, strange Bavarian custom.
Aug 9th, 1998, 11:36 AM
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If it were me, I would rent a car for a few days instead of taking the train. I would probably stay outside of Munich so that I would not have to get a garage for my car. I would take the train into Munich and use the car to visit Bertesgaden, Landshut, Regensburg, Bamberg, Passau, Salsburg, Garmish, Fussen, Rothenburg. You name it, there are more beautiful cities in Southern Germany and Austria than you will be able to see in such a short time. Perhaps it will only entice you to visit again. The smaller towns in Germany are so beautiful. Personally I have a better time in the small towns than in the big cities.
Aug 9th, 1998, 02:45 PM
Geoff Crawford
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Salzburg is very doable on your own by train. So are Nuremburg and Regensburg. (both good choices) Don't forget Ludwig's Castles. They aren't so doable by train but are real easy to get one of the bus comanies to pick you up, they do Linderhof and Neuschwanstein. There is usually also a stop in Oberammergau, the Passionplay town, for shopping for regional crafts.

In Munich, the Marien Platz you need to plan ahead to be there at the right time for the glockenspiel. If you want a beer hall, Hof Brauhaus is the famous one, but over rated - try Augistiner by the train station. The Deutchesmusuem is a great guy's museum and good for a rainy day. Great Italian restaurant with reasonable priced food - Osteria in Schwabing. When you're in Marien Platz, go northeast towards Maxmillianstrasse. The street curves around to the right and becomes Residentzstrasse. There are several really good specialty shops including the Rottenhoeffer next to the Cafe Hag. The Rottenhoeffer is a chocolate shop - try the Bayrishe Knoedel. ("Bavarian Dumpling" the shop's special mix of marzipan center dipped in brandy and hazel nuts, coated with chocolate) The Cafe is a wonderful place to sit and relax for a minute with a strong cup of European coffee.

With 3-4 days I would say Munich one day with dinner at one of the beer halls, Ludwigs Castles, Salzburg, and one of either Regensburg or Nurenburg.

Good luck.
Aug 9th, 1998, 04:19 PM
wes fowler
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Well,now! What are you doing and where are you going between your stay at Marble Arch and Munich?!?

I second Lynda's recommendation regarding a car and a stay outside of Munich. There are some lovely gasthauses in Bavaria that will offer far more amenities at much less cost than you'll find in Munich. Coping with a car in Munich is highly problematic due to traffic congestion, limited parking and the fact that most tourist oriented spots are zoned for pedestrians only. I've got some suggestions for areas outside of Munich which I'll Email you directly. They're a bit lengthy for the forum.
Aug 10th, 1998, 05:47 AM
wes fowler
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Couldn't forward to you directly.

You'll be enchanted by Pfaffenwinkel! Say, where? Pfaffenwinkel, German for "Pope's Corner" is truly one of the most delightful areas of Europe and one I think you would thoroughly enjoy. It's located in upper Bavaria to the south and west of Munich and just north of magnificent alpine mountain ranges and pristine lakes, all of which are in view. It gets its name from the vast number of beautiful baroque and rococo churches in even the tiniest of its villages.

What does the area offer? Magnificent views of the Alps and Alpine lakes. Three of mad King Ludwig's castles including Neuschwanstein (the original Disneyland castle). Munich, with its magnificent museums, palaces, town hall and shopping promenades. Extraordinary churches with austere exteriors and unbelievably ornate, baroque interiors most of which were designed and created by two sets of brothers, the Zimmermans and the Adamses. Awakening to the sound of cowbells in the morning. Seven hundred-year-old towns with well preserved perimeter walls and ramparts. Superb and inexpensive dining on native dishes that may include trout from alpine streams or chamois, an alpine antelope. Church graveyards that look as if they are maintained by skilled Japanese gardeners. Immaculate villages. Verdant rolling pasturelands.

Nine years ago, we stayed in a family owned inn in a small farming village called Hohenfurch. Our immaculate room, with bath, refrigerator, sink, two burner stove, king sized bed, dining table and chairs and furnished private balcony cost $36.00 a night and included a generous breakfast of meats, cheeses, breads and superb coffee. The inn's dining room featured Bavarian specialties, (including that antelope) as well as trout taken from a lovely but frigid alpine stream that flows through the center of the village to the river Lechs about a quarter of a mile away. On the weekend, the restaurant featured live Bavarian music provided by locals in a wonderfully relaxed and informal atmosphere.

The hotel is the Landgasthof Schonach-Hof.

The village is small but charming. A trout laden alpine stream and lush lawns and most attractive homes with lovely gardens and windowboxes laden with geraniums or petunias border its one main street. The village church is typical of the region; austere from the outside with red roof, stuccoed walls that set off a mural of a religious figure and no stained glass windows. The interior is breath taking, as is the small graveyard beyond the church. St. Ursula's, a small chapel built in 1492, sits on a knoll amidst cow pastures just to the south of the inn. The village has a small grocery store and bakery and despite the name Bahnhofstrasse (Railroad Station Street), no train station.

The entire Pfaffenwinkel area is criss-crossed with hiking trails, all of which offer superb views. Hiking routes appear in the Pfaffenwinkel brochure.

Hohenfurch is situated on Route B17, the German Romantic Road, so named because it courses through a number of charming, delightful, historic towns and villages from Wurzburg in the north, through Rothenburg o.d. Tauber, Augsberg, Landsberg (where Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf" while imprisoned there), Hohenfurch, Schongau and Fussen.

Drive to the Wieskirche near Steingaden, about 12 miles from Hohenfurch to see the epitome of rococo artistry. Drive 10 miles to Rottenbuch and visit another rococo masterpiece, the parish church; (you'll see its bell tower from the road). Drive to Peiting about 8 miles from Hohenfurch ascend Hohe Peissenberg and get a stunning view of the Alps and eleven alpine lakes. Drive to Schongau, only 3 miles from Hohenfurch, have a meal at the Alte Post Inn, then walk the 700-year-old ramparts that encircle part of the town.

Drive 25 miles south to Schwangau and visit mad King Ludwig's fairy tale castle, Neuschwanstein. Visit his more sedate castle Hohenschwangau in the same village. Take the Tegelberg cable railway to view the German and Austrian Alps.

Drive a bit further to Oberammergau. Many of the residents will remind you of New Testament figures. A Passion Play is staged in Oberammergau every ten years (next in 2000) and the citizenry make up the play's cast. Oberammergau, while famous for its Passion Play, is equally famous for its huge population of wood carvers and for the murals on the exterior walls of most of its homes and shops. Great place for souvenir hunting!

Don't even think of driving to Munich! While it's only about 40 to 45 miles from Hohenfurch, there's no place to park once you get there.

Drive to Herrsching on the Ammersee (it's about 35 miles northeast of Hohenfurch). Make a detour just before Herrsching. Stop in Andechs and sample the beer! It is one of the world's premiere beers, brewed in the monastery in Andechs and available in Andechs and no where else! Sidetrack to the Starnberger See, the lake where Ludwig, the mad king drowned. Accident, suicide, assassination? No one knows. Back track to Herrsching. Park the car at the train station and ride the train to Munich.

Munich's train station is ideally located. Get a city map and list of events from the tourist office at the station. It's located opposite Track 11. Exit the station and walk the long and wide pedestrian promenade (Neuhauserstrasse) to the Marienplatz and the impressive Gothic style town hall built at the turn of the century. Pass sidewalk cafes, formal restaurants, beer halls, fashionable boutiques and department stores on the way. Stop at "Augustiner" at 16 Neuhauserstrasse for lunch and the best beer in Munich. Eat and drink in the beer garden to the rear or at the sidewalk café in the front. Look for signs between the "new" Gothic town hall and the "old" 14th Century town hall that point the way to the "Viktualienmarkt" an open air market laden with fresh flowers, vegetables and meats.

At the new town hall at 11 AM, noon, 5 and 9 PM, a glockenspiel, with dancers and jousting knights on a merry-go-round perform for delighted tourists and children.

Come back another day and visit two superb art museums or the fascinating science and technology museum (Deutsches Museum). Visit the Residenz, an impressive palace not far from the new town hall.

Visit Dachau, about 10 miles north of Munich and approachable by train from Munich's station. Visit the town of Dachau, as well as the concentration camp. Dachau was once the Bavarian center for the arts, subsequently surpassed by Munich. Do check out the 16th Century castle in the old part of the town.

Aug 10th, 1998, 03:48 PM
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It would be a shame to spend a few days in Munich and not visit Dachau. All the other places are nice but they will not give you the feeling you will get while walking around Dachau.
Aug 10th, 1998, 04:15 PM
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I agree with all the above. If you have a car and wish to stay in Munich, I recommend Kings Hotel Munich. It is located near the train station and a short walk to city center. I believe it is on Dachaustrasse. It is a new renovated castle with parking at rear....about $110 incl. breakfast when I was there last year. (email me for info if interested) I enjoyed the market area..great sampling of German food for lunch. Also enjoyed the residenz palace..a self tour.
Aug 10th, 1998, 04:41 PM
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For some excellent info about Munich and the surrounding area go to: http://homepages.munich.netsurf.de/N...ler/munich.htm
He's got everything on that page, including train schedules,info on weekend family train passes, and rail connections to and from the airport. He even has links to hotels, gasthauses and restaurants.
Aug 11th, 1998, 07:02 PM
Europe on My Mind
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Thanks to everyone for the great advice. Wes, check out my other postings for Berlin and also Stockholm to Helsinki cruise and you'll get a better idea of my trip - and thanks for the great details, can't wait to go. First time to Germany, so won't rent a car this time, but maybe next time.
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