Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Europe
Reload this Page >

Munich Trip Report--A Joyous Celebration of Kitsch and Schmaltz

Munich Trip Report--A Joyous Celebration of Kitsch and Schmaltz

Old Nov 8th, 2005, 01:38 PM
  #21  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 9,017
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why not Depending how much time I've got. I'll be starting a new work assignment on Monday. Would it be o.k. if I (or you) posted the if, where and when next Monday in THIS thread?
Anybody would like to join?
logos999 is offline  
Old Nov 8th, 2005, 02:16 PM
  #22  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,467
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What hotel did you stay in?
TexasAggie is offline  
Old Nov 8th, 2005, 02:32 PM
  #23  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,940
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Kopp, you were at the New Braunsfels Wurstfest, right? Went there several times back in the 70's...what fun!
wren is offline  
Old Nov 8th, 2005, 04:08 PM
  #24  
hsv
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,801
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
logos,

I am game. Don't have too much time at my hands either. Here on MON night.
hsv is offline  
Old Nov 8th, 2005, 09:07 PM
  #25  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,747
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oh, I would like to join, but there is no chance I will be in Munich next week. Too bad

Anyway, wish you fun! Und trinkt ein Weizen für mich mit

Ingo
Ingo is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 06:31 AM
  #26  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry--thought I could get more in yesterday, but I was wrong.

Anyway, hotel question: We stayed at the Hilton Munich City, and we'd recommend it highly!(more info on it to come) Several posters have said they enjoyed Le Meridien, which I think is close to the Hauptbahnhof, not sure.

Now, more of the report...
smalti is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 09:03 AM
  #27  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the postive responses so far. Here's more of the report--

ADVANCE RESERVATIONS


Air Tickets

We bought about 4 months in advance. Starting in Birmingham, AL, we flew out of Atlanta, and our coach seats on Delta cost $928 each.


Hotel

We scheduled our room less than 2 months ahead of time, but I think the hotel was holding a block of rooms for the conference DH attended. Our double room at the Hilton Munich City was 299?/night (slight business rate discount), with another 23? pp. for breakfast.


Side Trip

This was my biggest blunder of the trip, and I hope someone else can benefit from reading of my mistake and my rue. We wanted to take a day trip. As far as the destination was concerned, my husband said, "Anywhere is fine. You decide," so I started researching, including getting good info from this site, where suggested possibilities included Garmish-Partenkirchen, Herrenchiemsee, Neuschwanstein and Linderhof near Füssen, and more. The only thing clear to me was that I wanted to see the Wieskirche (in Wies, SW of Munich), as part of whichever trip we took.

DH and I decided that a bus-company tour would be the easiest thing, if a bit cheesy. So I started on websites for bus companies I read about here, where I hit a couple of snags. Now, with a bit of patience, I could have worked through them and gotten enough information to make a decision, but instead I just said, "Oh, I'll work it out with the concierge."

That was my mistake. Instead of getting enough information in advance to have a clear idea of what I wanted, so that only the logistics would need arranging, I put off deciding on a destination till we got there, where it was much harder (with jet lag lowering my reasoning and decision-making abilities, and with a rather unhelpful concierge). That's what I wish I had done: Decide on a destination (with a backup for flexibility), and have contact information for at least 2 companies, in case of an unhelpful concierge. Oh, well. Too soon old, too late wise.

As it turned out, we took a Panorama (www.autobusoberbayern.de) tour to the Zugspitze, the high point of the Bavarian Alps. I missed out on the Wieskirche, but got the consolation prize of a (very short!) stop at Ettal Monastery. We enjoyed the trip, but I was left with regrets.




smalti is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 09:10 AM
  #28  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nuts! I still can't get the Euro sign to work--still comes out as ?. Oh, well. Back to using E.

Yet the umlaut worked. Hm.

And that should be "Garmisch-Partenkirchen" above.

More as soon as I can.
smalti is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 10:23 AM
  #29  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Great trip report so far. My husband and I are taking a trip to southern Germany next summer, so your comments are very helpful.
J_Correa is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 11:18 AM
  #30  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 174
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is helpful for me too! My BF and I are going to Germany in May (his first trip overseas!). We want to take some side trips too. How did you like Panorama? Were they good? Did you feel you got your money's worth? I look forward to reading more!
StLgrrl is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 11:31 AM
  #31  
ira
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi S,

>I still can't get the Euro sign to work--still comes out as ?. <

It's not you, it's the Fodor's computer. If it doesn't recognize a symbol it replaces it with a "?".

Keep up the good report.

ira is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 11:35 AM
  #32  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
J_Correa & StLgrrl--I'm glad if my report can be helpful to you; so many people here have given help freely to me.

StLgrrl--Panorama was a fine company, IMO. We got our money's worth and had no problems with them.

BUT they were a bus company, with the limitations a bus tour offers--limited time to see things, no opportunity to wander, etc. If we had approached this trip with much ambition, we would almost certainly have taken a train, and had the freedom to take more time here, make sure to stop there, etc. Others who post here have had happier results still by renting a car and driving themselves wherever they wished for as long as they liked.

Happy travels!
smalti is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 11:35 AM
  #33  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 9,017
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You can copy and past a few of my Euros the next time ;-)

€ € € € € € € € € € € € € €
€ € € € € € € € € € € € € €
logos999 is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 11:40 AM
  #34  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ira--Thanks for the explanation.

logos--Would that I could borrow your "Euros"! ? ? ?

Hey!!! I actually can! Let's see if this posts correctly!

smalti is offline  
Old Nov 9th, 2005, 11:42 AM
  #35  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rats! No dice. *Sigh* Thanks just the same, logos.
smalti is offline  
Old Nov 10th, 2005, 05:44 AM
  #36  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Meant to mention--Panorama Tours daytrip to the Zugspitze cost 156E for two, plus 5% commission.
smalti is offline  
Old Nov 14th, 2005, 08:10 AM
  #37  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 9,017
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi hsv I won't be able to meet you tomorrow. I'll need to prepare for my next contract job, starting wednesday.
Traveling is so great, it's just that it all costs money...
logos999 is offline  
Old Nov 14th, 2005, 08:50 AM
  #38  
hsv
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,801
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hi logos,

no big deal. My schedule is pretty tight, too (flying in tomorrow afternoon and out again at noon on Wednesday).
Next time probably!
hsv
hsv is offline  
Old Nov 16th, 2005, 02:25 PM
  #39  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry for the long delay. Here's more of my report.

(And a note--Not all German characters are working on my keyboard. When I can, I'll use umlauts, but often when you see oe, ue, or ae, please read as umlautted o, u, or a, though not always, e.g., "Frauenkirche"--no umlaut implied.)


RECOMMENDATIONS


<Restaurants

Out of sheer laziness, we took most of our meals at the hotel's restaurant. The Loewenschänke was good, but I don't imagine that too many people come to the Hilton for authentic German food. The other places we tried were all quite good; we didn't have a bad meal in Munich. These were the best of the recommendations we followed from this forum; now I recommend them in my turn:


Andechs am Dom is right behind the Frauenkirche. Good Bavarian food and Benedictine-brewed beer are served at communal tables--sehr gemütlich! The walls are lined with panels from old confessional booths; above those hang photos of German cardinals, even Joseph Ratzinger himself in his pre-Papal days (that made me smile and think of barbecue joints in the US South--they all have photos of college football coaches endorsing the food).

My husband enjoyed his lunch of goulash, while I tucked into some noodles in a very good mushroom sauce with rocket, washed down with very fine beer brewed by monks.


The Ratskeller is in the Neues Rathau in Marienplatz. Its menu is large and varied. We found the non-smoking room quite a welcome thing, and it was pleasantly furnished.

While DH had Wiener schnitzel and potatoes, I devoured sauerbraten with red cabbage and potato pancakes. We had both light and dark beer. It was a dinner we really enjoyed.
smalti is offline  
Old Nov 19th, 2005, 08:20 PM
  #40  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
RECOMMENDATIONS (cont.)


Attractions

Neues Rathaus--Stand in Marienplatz at 11AM or noon, and you can hear the glockenspiel playing in the clock tower of this huge, neo-Gothic public building, while mechanical, clockwork figures act out scenes from Bavarian history. It's all capped off with a cuckoo popping out and giving its call. A tad on the kitschy side, perhaps, but it's fun.

Frauenkirche--More historically significant than visually interesting (in my opinion), this large Gothic church does have an imposing imperial tomb of black marble near its entrance, and there are some fine woodcarvings up around the altar.

Peterskirche--It's worth climbing the (many, many!) steps of this old church's tower for the view you'll get of the Altstadt ("Old City").

Residenz--Come for the Schatzkammer, stay for the Antiquarium! Seriously, the treasure-room (really, a series of rooms) and hall of antiquities are indeed very impressive. This was the home of Bavaria's rulers, the Wittelsbach family, and it holds many great and fascinating treasures. But the extensive volume of the place, hall after hall after hall, eventually proves wearing. The Grotto is, well, grotesque.

Alte Pinakothek--One of the greatest picture galleries in Europe, holding famous works of Dürer, Rembrandt, Bruegel, and others. It boasts the "finest Rubens collection on earth." Please do as I failed to do, and make sure to get here with plenty of time.

Bavarian National Museum--Possibly the most enjoyment I had on this trip was my tour of this museum, seeing the Romanesque and Gothic sculptures and the woodcarvings (many by Tilman Riemenschneider), the medieval armor, the barrel-vaulted room furnished in old Bavarian fashion, etc. I recommend this museum very strongly.

Asamkirche--This church is easily one of the oddest places I saw in Munich. The church building is composed entirely of unbelievable Baroque excesses (Baroque or Rococo, I'm not really sure)--every surface heavily encrusted with ornamentation, overblown and gaudy spectacle everywhere the eye rests. But what's not to like about a memorial featuring a gilded skeleton snipping the life thread of some unfortunate nobleman with a pair of golden shears?

Theatinerkirche--A lovely, lovely Baroque church. The exterior impressed me much more than the interior, and the Odeonsplatz which lay alongside the church was a very pleasant area for solitary wandering.


It would be wrong to call Dachau, the site of the concentration camp, an "attraction," but it is a destination close to Munich. Gravity and solemnity are not sentiments one normally wants to encounter in travel, especially pleasure travel, but I found going here to be worthwhile indeed.



smalti is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Do Not Sell My Personal Information


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:02 PM.