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Munich Hotels-Excelsior Hotel or Kempinski Vier Jahreszeiten

Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:29 PM
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Munich Hotels-Excelsior Hotel or Kempinski Vier Jahreszeiten

I will be traveling with my dh and 2 young children in November. I am looking for high quality lodging near the Marienplatz and found the Excelsior Hotel and Kempinski Vier Jahreszeiten. Does anyone who has stayed in either hotel have advice to share? Also, if you have other places I should consider, I would greatly appreciate it. I should mention that the Mandarin Oriental doesn't have rooms available on our dates and I've heard very mixed reviews on the Bayerischer Hof Hotel. Thank you.
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Mar 23rd, 2006, 03:11 AM
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I strongly recommend the DORINT SOFITEL BAYERPOST. It is a brand-new design hotel behind a historical facade 500 meters away from the Marienplatz.
It has a spectacular swimming pool and the best hotel breakfast I ever had (and I have stayed in some dozens Leading Hotels).
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Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:21 AM
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traveller,

while I agree 100 % with your recommendations offered thus far today (also the ones on Berlin and Sylt) and I indeed did appreciate the Dorint Sofitel Bayerpost myself a lot (don't you like that spa downstairs?), I do think it is more than a mere 500 m from Marienplatz, being located by central station. I'd rather estimate the distance at 1 to 1.2 km (it's two train stops). Don't want to wise-crack, just in order to annoy annoyances.
That said, the Dorint is certainly very different in style from the Kempinski and the Excelsior.
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Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:50 PM
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The Kempinski Vier Jahreszeiten is on Maximilianstrasse, north east of the Marienplatz, practically next door to the Opera. It's about a 7 minutes walk to the Marienplatz. It's one of the top hotels in Munich. The other top hotel, about equidistant from the Marienplatz, but northwest of it is the Bayerischer Hof. I hve stayed in both. When I stayed at the Vier Jahreszeiten it was a Westin Hotel, but the Kepinski chain is an excellent group and I can recommend both hotels highly. The Bayr. Hof is in a little quieter location.
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Mar 25th, 2006, 05:09 AM
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While I haven't stayed at the Excelsior, I did stay at it's "sister" hotel, the Konigshof. It was marvelous.
However, if you want to stay close to the Marienplatz, I would not choose the Excelsior. While it's not that far away...approx. a 15 minute walk...or short taxi ride, why not stay right in the thick of things.

I'm surprised that you've heard mixed reviews about the Bayerischer Hof. It's one of my favorite hotels in Europe. Yes, some rooms can be a little small, but they are all quite lovely with all modern amenities.

The hotel offers just about anything you would want...swimming pool, numerous restaurants (Trader Vic's included), bars, etc., and a fabulous breakfast buffet. It's in a great location...very close to the Frauenkirche and a hop,skip, and jump from the Marienplatz. I've never been disappointed by the hotel or it's staff.

While not as exclusive as the BayerischerHof or Four Seasons, you might consider the Platzl Hotel. It's very nice and quite popular. Sells out rather quickly. It's extremely close to the Marienplatz and right down the street from the Hofbrauhaus. They also have an indoor pool. (Don't know how old your children are, but kids love pools!) You might want to check it out.

However, for my money...it's the Bayerischer Hof.
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Mar 25th, 2006, 05:17 AM
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The Platzl is fine but reading between the lines I somehow seriously doubt that its overall appearance, the sometimes presence of bus tour folks, and the fact that the rooms, last I heard, are not air conditioned probably means it isn't the hotel for you.
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Mar 25th, 2006, 10:10 AM
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Since when does the Platzl have a pool?

I seriously doubt that bit of info.
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Mar 25th, 2006, 10:40 AM
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To add to the original question: I would opt for the Kempinski if the choice was between it and the Excelsior due to the much nicer location. It might alo feature a few more options to spend your time (such as a pool and spa).
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Mar 25th, 2006, 11:28 AM
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If you could "stand" it and walking about ten minutes to the Marienplatz (and seriously, how many times are you actually going to go to that one place???)then you might consider the LeMeridien. OK, it is a
business" hotel but the rooms are LARGE, it is air conditioned, it is across the street from the main rail station/U-Bahn/S-Bahn/tram lines stops.

Somebody here didn't like the neighborhood because there is a "sex store" nearby. There is a HUGE sex store, the Beate Uhse, near the Marienplatz so be prepared for all of those eventualities.
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Mar 25th, 2006, 01:50 PM
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mandarin oriental, excellent, been twice.
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Mar 26th, 2006, 02:16 PM
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Author: skln2
Date: 03/22/2006, 10:29 pm
I will be traveling with my dh and 2 young children in November. I am looking for high quality lodging near the Marienplatz and found the Excelsior Hotel and Kempinski Vier Jahreszeiten. Does anyone who has stayed in either hotel have advice to share? Also, if you have other places I should consider, I would greatly appreciate it. I should mention that the Mandarin Oriental doesn't have rooms available on our dates and I've heard very mixed reviews on the Bayerischer Hof Hotel. Thank you.



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Author: traveller1959
Date: 03/23/2006, 07:11 am
I strongly recommend the DORINT SOFITEL BAYERPOST. It is a brand-new design hotel behind a historical facade 500 meters away from the Marienplatz.
It has a spectacular swimming pool and the best hotel breakfast I ever had (and I have stayed in some dozens Leading Hotels).



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Author: hsv
Date: 03/23/2006, 09:21 am
traveller,

while I agree 100 % with your recommendations offered thus far today (also the ones on Berlin and Sylt) and I indeed did appreciate the Dorint Sofitel Bayerpost myself a lot (don't you like that spa downstairs?), I do think it is more than a mere 500 m from Marienplatz, being located by central station. I'd rather estimate the distance at 1 to 1.2 km (it's two train stops). Don't want to wise-crack, just in order to annoy annoyances.
That said, the Dorint is certainly very different in style from the Kempinski and the Excelsior.



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Author: treplow
Date: 03/23/2006, 04:50 pm
The Kempinski Vier Jahreszeiten is on Maximilianstrasse, north east of the Marienplatz, practically next door to the Opera. It's about a 7 minutes walk to the Marienplatz. It's one of the top hotels in Munich. The other top hotel, about equidistant from the Marienplatz, but northwest of it is the Bayerischer Hof. I hve stayed in both. When I stayed at the Vier Jahreszeiten it was a Westin Hotel, but the Kepinski chain is an excellent group and I can recommend both hotels highly. The Bayr. Hof is in a little quieter location.



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Author: Fadoinka ([email protected])
Date: 03/25/2006, 09:09 am
While I haven't stayed at the Excelsior, I did stay at it's "sister" hotel, the Konigshof. It was marvelous.
However, if you want to stay close to the Marienplatz, I would not choose the Excelsior. While it's not that far away...approx. a 15 minute walk...or short taxi ride, why not stay right in the thick of things.

I'm surprised that you've heard mixed reviews about the Bayerischer Hof. It's one of my favorite hotels in Europe. Yes, some rooms can be a little small, but they are all quite lovely with all modern amenities.

The hotel offers just about anything you would want...swimming pool, numerous restaurants (Trader Vic's included), bars, etc., and a fabulous breakfast buffet. It's in a great location...very close to the Frauenkirche and a hop,skip, and jump from the Marienplatz. I've never been disappointed by the hotel or it's staff.

While not as exclusive as the BayerischerHof or Four Seasons, you might consider the Platzl Hotel. It's very nice and quite popular. Sells out rather quickly. It's extremely close to the Marienplatz and right down the street from the Hofbrauhaus. They also have an indoor pool. (Don't know how old your children are, but kids love pools!) You might want to check it out.

However, for my money...it's the Bayerischer Hof.



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Author: Intrepid1
Date: 03/25/2006, 09:17 am
The Platzl is fine but reading between the lines I somehow seriously doubt that its overall appearance, the sometimes presence of bus tour folks, and the fact that the rooms, last I heard, are not air conditioned probably means it isn't the hotel for you.



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Author: hsv
Date: 03/25/2006, 02:10 pm
<<Since when does the Platzl have a pool?

I seriously doubt that bit of info.>>

Yes, the Platzl has an indoor pool. Been there...seen it. It's located up in the spa area which also has a sauna.


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Mar 26th, 2006, 02:31 PM
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We stayed at the Hotel Opera, which was about a 10 minute walk down Maximillianstrasse from the Marienplatz. We had two rooms, and they were both beautiful. The neighborhood was quiet, and I loved the walk to the old city. We ate at a lovely restaurant one evening right on our street.
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Mar 26th, 2006, 04:54 PM
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Here is the website for the Hotel Opera:
http://hotel-opera.de/
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Mar 26th, 2006, 10:05 PM
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Just one more bit of info: The Kempinski is just undergoing some renovations - which include their pool and spa area.

Currently they are sending their guests wanting to use a pool or spa over to the Dorint Sofitel Bayerpost, where they have arranged privileges.

The issue with that is that the Dorint isn't exactly next door, but two train stops and a 7 min. walk away.

I don't know for how long this is going to last.
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Mar 29th, 2006, 10:28 PM
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I am not sure whether it's worth bringing this up, but according to information I received directly from the Platzl Hotel when I walked by yesterday, the Platzl does not have a pool. It does have a sauna and spa area, but there is no swimming pool there. Period.
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Mar 31st, 2006, 02:29 AM
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After reading your post, regarding the pool at the Platzl, I went to their website. Apparently, they got rid of their pool, during their last renovation project, as it's no longer listed.

However, they did have an indoor pool, which is one of the reasons I stayed there, with my children, in 2001.

Things change in 5 years. Sorry for the misinformation. I should have checked the current status of the pool, before posting. However, I certainly did not mean to mislead anyone intentionally.

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