Missypie's Trip to Barcelona with Kids
Mar 21st, 2007, 09:34 AM
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Hi, Missypie - I'm really enjoying your report (we're hoping to be over there mid-2008).
I did want to give one item of info - to carry on water or beverages, buying at the airport prices is indeed the only way. I go thru LOTS of water, and feel it's really worth it - just as with the limit on 3oz containers, any empty container is supposed to be confiscated - the whole idea (and we travelers really do need to remember that people have tried this...) is to look for items that could be used for bombs on the planes - evidently, it's been decided that a powerful enough explosive needs more than 3 oz of materials, and therefore would have to be built/composed in a container of above 3oz. (there was an interesting item on the news a month or two ago - a professional athlete/football player got into intense debate with the TSA people at an airport after a game, when they tried to take his "empty" waterbottle away from him to throw in their collection basket. Since he argued so vehemently, they didn't just confiscate - they had it checked out....residue in the water bottle included some type of drugs...leading him to wonder, hopefully, why he didn't just toss it like a good boy...I believe he's in a bit more trouble now...)
I did want to give one item of info - to carry on water or beverages, buying at the airport prices is indeed the only way. I go thru LOTS of water, and feel it's really worth it - just as with the limit on 3oz containers, any empty container is supposed to be confiscated - the whole idea (and we travelers really do need to remember that people have tried this...) is to look for items that could be used for bombs on the planes - evidently, it's been decided that a powerful enough explosive needs more than 3 oz of materials, and therefore would have to be built/composed in a container of above 3oz. (there was an interesting item on the news a month or two ago - a professional athlete/football player got into intense debate with the TSA people at an airport after a game, when they tried to take his "empty" waterbottle away from him to throw in their collection basket. Since he argued so vehemently, they didn't just confiscate - they had it checked out....residue in the water bottle included some type of drugs...leading him to wonder, hopefully, why he didn't just toss it like a good boy...I believe he's in a bit more trouble now...)
Mar 21st, 2007, 10:19 AM
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Day 9 (Saturday, March 17). The weather forecast said "abundant sunshine." Our last day in Barcelona. Since it was just a couple of metro stops away, we visited the Hospital del la Santa Creu i Sant Pau. I was uncertain about visiting the grounds of an operating hospital, but it's really a fantastic modernista complex. It's actually a pretty short walk from Sagrada Familia, so it would be more effecient to combine both in one trip.
After that, we went to the Textile Museum, which is right across from the Picasso. DD's and I LOVED this place. There are so many dresses from the 1760s on. (DS16 was less than enthusiastic, so I let him play his Game Boy.) I am really glad we went; when we were finished, I could have walked through all over again.
We considered eating at the Textil Cafe, but since it was going to be our last restaurant meal in the city, I wanted more of a destination. Off to Els Quatre Gats (C. Montsio 3). The info I had said that the fixed lunch menu was 11.75; in reality, it was 22 euro. They only serve the set menu at lunch time. You have a choice of 5 starters, 3 entrees, about 5 desserts and it comes with wine and water. The main dining room is very very cool, and I understand why tourists flock there.
While enjoying our meal, I commented that it seemed like the place was full of locals rather than tourists, because the folks there did not seem to be American, Japanese, German or French. However, at the end of the meal, the folks at almost every table had the waiter take their picture, so I assume they WERE tourists after all.
After lunch, DH had to see the Sea one more time, so we took the metro to the Ciutadella Vila Olimpica stop and walked around a bit. Thereafter, we sadly got back on the metro for a final trip back to our flat.
After that, we went to the Textile Museum, which is right across from the Picasso. DD's and I LOVED this place. There are so many dresses from the 1760s on. (DS16 was less than enthusiastic, so I let him play his Game Boy.) I am really glad we went; when we were finished, I could have walked through all over again.
We considered eating at the Textil Cafe, but since it was going to be our last restaurant meal in the city, I wanted more of a destination. Off to Els Quatre Gats (C. Montsio 3). The info I had said that the fixed lunch menu was 11.75; in reality, it was 22 euro. They only serve the set menu at lunch time. You have a choice of 5 starters, 3 entrees, about 5 desserts and it comes with wine and water. The main dining room is very very cool, and I understand why tourists flock there.
While enjoying our meal, I commented that it seemed like the place was full of locals rather than tourists, because the folks there did not seem to be American, Japanese, German or French. However, at the end of the meal, the folks at almost every table had the waiter take their picture, so I assume they WERE tourists after all.
After lunch, DH had to see the Sea one more time, so we took the metro to the Ciutadella Vila Olimpica stop and walked around a bit. Thereafter, we sadly got back on the metro for a final trip back to our flat.
Mar 21st, 2007, 10:52 AM
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Day 10 (Sunday, March 18). This is the day I had been dreading...where so many things could have gone wrong. I asked the folks at Habitat Apartments to arrange for a taxi for us; as we had to leave at 5 am, our options were very limited and there wasn't room for error. I was nervous, but by the time we took the first elevator full of luggage down at 4:45, the driver was there. The van to the airport cost 50 euro for the 5 of us, with 6 bags and carryons. (Note: If you plan to take the AeroBus to the airport, give yourself plenty of time. One day we observed quite a long line of people at Placa de Catalunya waiting for the bus.)
We arrived a bit before 5:30 (for a 7:30 flight) but BA didn't open for about another 15 minutes. Then, they just had one guy working Coach for another 30 minutes. We were checked in with time to spare, but I'm sure others on our flight were cutting it very close, soley due to BA's understaffing.
We arrived at Heathrow. I'll go through this in a bit of detail since I had asked about the process on this board earlier. We arrived at Terminal 1. The first line was to make sure we only had one bag. Then we faced the very long securty line; the employees did a pretty good job of directing people to keep the lines the same length. From there we could have gone to the ticket counter had we needed boarding passes, but we were able to skip that stop. After that we boarded a bus to Teminal 3. The bus takes you around the back of everything, reminding us of the backlot tour at theme parks. At that point, no more metal detectors. We arrived at the big shopping area and had to wait a while to get our gate number, then went through to the gate, where passports were checked. The whole process took about 75 minutes, just like the website says.
Our AA plane was a 777, so it actually had individual TV screens. The three oldest of us were able to watch Casino Royale, which was of interest, as they were filming the San Marco scene when were in in Venice last June. I was unable to get a more direct route, so we stopped in Chicago before catching another plane to Dallas. (At O'Hare, we had our first/only Starbucks and McDonalds of the trip.) At DFW our luggage didn't arrive; they told us it had been put on an earlier fight, which is pretty nuts because isn't it a big deal these days to make sure everyone travels on the same flight with their luggage?
We arrived home at 10:30 pm. I immediately put a load of jeans in the wash so the kids would have something to wear to school in the morning.
We arrived a bit before 5:30 (for a 7:30 flight) but BA didn't open for about another 15 minutes. Then, they just had one guy working Coach for another 30 minutes. We were checked in with time to spare, but I'm sure others on our flight were cutting it very close, soley due to BA's understaffing.
We arrived at Heathrow. I'll go through this in a bit of detail since I had asked about the process on this board earlier. We arrived at Terminal 1. The first line was to make sure we only had one bag. Then we faced the very long securty line; the employees did a pretty good job of directing people to keep the lines the same length. From there we could have gone to the ticket counter had we needed boarding passes, but we were able to skip that stop. After that we boarded a bus to Teminal 3. The bus takes you around the back of everything, reminding us of the backlot tour at theme parks. At that point, no more metal detectors. We arrived at the big shopping area and had to wait a while to get our gate number, then went through to the gate, where passports were checked. The whole process took about 75 minutes, just like the website says.
Our AA plane was a 777, so it actually had individual TV screens. The three oldest of us were able to watch Casino Royale, which was of interest, as they were filming the San Marco scene when were in in Venice last June. I was unable to get a more direct route, so we stopped in Chicago before catching another plane to Dallas. (At O'Hare, we had our first/only Starbucks and McDonalds of the trip.) At DFW our luggage didn't arrive; they told us it had been put on an earlier fight, which is pretty nuts because isn't it a big deal these days to make sure everyone travels on the same flight with their luggage?
We arrived home at 10:30 pm. I immediately put a load of jeans in the wash so the kids would have something to wear to school in the morning.
Mar 21st, 2007, 11:27 AM
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Reflections: I asked every member of the family to name their favorite place or experience in Barcelona, and their favorite meal. Here are their responses:
DD11: "Too many to name" but loved the living statues and the Palau de la Musica. Restaurant: Can Majo.
DD14: Shopping; the Textile Musuem. Restaurant: "Can I say the place where we had hot chocolate?" Also, Pollo Rico and Can Majo.
DS16: The Mozart Requiem performance at Santa Maria del Mar. Restaurant: Els Quatre Gats.
DH: All of the modernista architecture. Restaurant: Ba Ba Reeba.
Me: I love that Barcelona has palm trees; they give the city such a grace. I loved the Palau de la Musica and all of the other stained glass and modernista flourishes that appear around the city. I loved the dresses at the Textile Museum.
As for restaurants, there was no one meal where I thought, "This is the best food I've ever had in my life" (although the olives at BaBaReeba were the best in my life). However, with the exception of the cold food at Montserrat and the pita place, every meal was very good and very pleasant. Drinking sangria and eating olives makes for a fantastic start to any meal!
Many thanks to everyone who recommended apartments, restaurants and were otherwise generous with your advice!
DD11: "Too many to name" but loved the living statues and the Palau de la Musica. Restaurant: Can Majo.
DD14: Shopping; the Textile Musuem. Restaurant: "Can I say the place where we had hot chocolate?" Also, Pollo Rico and Can Majo.
DS16: The Mozart Requiem performance at Santa Maria del Mar. Restaurant: Els Quatre Gats.
DH: All of the modernista architecture. Restaurant: Ba Ba Reeba.
Me: I love that Barcelona has palm trees; they give the city such a grace. I loved the Palau de la Musica and all of the other stained glass and modernista flourishes that appear around the city. I loved the dresses at the Textile Museum.
As for restaurants, there was no one meal where I thought, "This is the best food I've ever had in my life" (although the olives at BaBaReeba were the best in my life). However, with the exception of the cold food at Montserrat and the pita place, every meal was very good and very pleasant. Drinking sangria and eating olives makes for a fantastic start to any meal!
Many thanks to everyone who recommended apartments, restaurants and were otherwise generous with your advice!
Mar 21st, 2007, 02:35 PM
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Your report was great and very informative. I loved the helpful comments like the advice about buying tickets for kids, and that small cups of hot chocolate were big enough. In our most recent trips, I made a restaurant map similar to yours; my DH made fun of it, but he was glad I had it when I could pull it out, as you did, and say, there's a good restaurant two blocks over! Your report will definitely help us during our visit to Barcelona in May, with our S11!
You said the kids felt underdressed at Set Portes - what were they wearing?
Did you eat paella at any point, and if so, what did you think? Was the Barceloneta area an interesting and/or pretty place to visit? I'm considering the area for lunch one day - do you think lunch would be a good time to be in that area (and maybe then the cablecar to Montjuic).
Between Set Portes and Els Quatre Gats, which did you enjoy more?
You said the kids felt underdressed at Set Portes - what were they wearing?
Did you eat paella at any point, and if so, what did you think? Was the Barceloneta area an interesting and/or pretty place to visit? I'm considering the area for lunch one day - do you think lunch would be a good time to be in that area (and maybe then the cablecar to Montjuic).
Between Set Portes and Els Quatre Gats, which did you enjoy more?
Mar 21st, 2007, 03:10 PM
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I think the kids felt underdressed because at somewhat expensive places for lunch the patrons are all business men in suits 
It's quite a common thing at lunch in most restaurants here where I live. But does not mean they really were underdressed for the place, it's just that the business men are not dressed for going to have a relaxing lunch Their company is paying !!
It's quite a common thing at lunch in most restaurants here where I live. But does not mean they really were underdressed for the place, it's just that the business men are not dressed for going to have a relaxing lunch Their company is paying !!
Mar 21st, 2007, 05:11 PM
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The kids were wearing jeans at Set Portes. Because it was a weekday lunch, there were no other kids there and yes, the other patrons were men in business suits. Probably had it been in the early evening, or on a weekend, there would have been more tourists there. But like I said, we were treated fine. I work in downtown Dallas, so I go to lunch in my business attire; but I never look down on casually dressed folks at the restaurants. I'm more likely to envy them (they're on vacation and I'm not.)
We had paella at Set Portes and fideua at Can Majo. Both were good and filling, but not out of this world terrific. They're both great options for families, esp. with kids. Set Portes offered an option with just seafood and one with meat and seafood. We ordered one of each, so that DD14 could just have meat with hers.
As between Set Portes and Els Quatre Gats, the food was better at Set Portes and the atmosphere was cooler at Els Quatre Gats.
Barcelonetta would be a great place for lunch on a pretty day. Just go there with a recommended restaurant in mind, so you won't have to be lured into one of the empty ones.
We had paella at Set Portes and fideua at Can Majo. Both were good and filling, but not out of this world terrific. They're both great options for families, esp. with kids. Set Portes offered an option with just seafood and one with meat and seafood. We ordered one of each, so that DD14 could just have meat with hers.
As between Set Portes and Els Quatre Gats, the food was better at Set Portes and the atmosphere was cooler at Els Quatre Gats.
Barcelonetta would be a great place for lunch on a pretty day. Just go there with a recommended restaurant in mind, so you won't have to be lured into one of the empty ones.
Mar 22nd, 2007, 05:18 AM
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Lexma, I was thinking about the cable car, and wanted to note that at least when we did it (a Sunday afternoon), we waited an hour in line to board on the Barceloneta end. We we arrived on the Montjuic end, there was no one in line. You may want to post a question, asking if others have had similar experiences.
Mar 22nd, 2007, 05:47 AM
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When we visited in February, the cable car shut down for a while for a lunch break of about two hours; I don't remember exactly what time this happened. There was only a short line on the Barceloneta end (we didn't get into the first cable car but we did get into the second one) and there was no line on the Montjuic end. We cut short our stay on Montjuic to be sure to catch the cable car back to Barceloneta before it stopped running so we could have lunch there.
Mar 22nd, 2007, 05:55 AM
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Thanks for the great report. I always enjoy hearing about your trips since we also travel alot with our three teens. You amaze me with your ability to remember such great details and pass on such useful information and have the time to do it so soon after you come back!
Your kids are wonderful, open to new experiences and seeming tireless in the pursuit of the next attraction. I also find those trips to be our favorite times together. Too busy to pick on each other, very mindful of me,(because I'm the one who knows where we're going, and they're a little out of their comfort zone) and excited about the sights.
Most importantly, you and your family didn't experience any theft. I know I was holding my breath waiting for you to report back. After the attempt on me last fall in Barcelona, I was hoping your trip was safer! Now, when where is your next destination?
Your kids are wonderful, open to new experiences and seeming tireless in the pursuit of the next attraction. I also find those trips to be our favorite times together. Too busy to pick on each other, very mindful of me,(because I'm the one who knows where we're going, and they're a little out of their comfort zone) and excited about the sights.
Most importantly, you and your family didn't experience any theft. I know I was holding my breath waiting for you to report back. After the attempt on me last fall in Barcelona, I was hoping your trip was safer! Now, when where is your next destination?
Mar 22nd, 2007, 05:56 AM
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Missypie,
Thanks for the itinerary. We will be in Barcelona in two weeks and I copied off your journey to take with us. Can you tell me a little more about the hospital that you visited. And why did you go there? Did you go inside or just walk the grounds? Thanks!
Thanks for the itinerary. We will be in Barcelona in two weeks and I copied off your journey to take with us. Can you tell me a little more about the hospital that you visited. And why did you go there? Did you go inside or just walk the grounds? Thanks!
Mar 22nd, 2007, 06:03 AM
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You can see the hospital very clearly from Sagrada Familia (however, I don't recall from which facade). If you have the "Top 10 Barcelona Book", it is number 4 in the list of "Top 10 Moderista Buildings." There are 8 pavillions that are super-cool to look at. We didn't attempt to go inside-with names on the doors meaning "Surgery" and "Radiology", it didn't seem appropriate. But there are lots of benches to sit on. We actually took croissants and a bottle of milk there and had our breakfast on one of the benches.
Mar 22nd, 2007, 06:17 AM
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missypie, Great report. I'd love to see your restaurant map.
" When mealtime came, I'd look at my annotated map and see what restaurants were located in the general vicinity."
I'm a klutz when it comes to being hungry and not knowing where to find a decent place to eat. The midday siesta also has me a bit baffled. What to do? What to do? I'll be visiting in Sept. so I think I have some time to figure this out. Thanks again for your insights.
" When mealtime came, I'd look at my annotated map and see what restaurants were located in the general vicinity."
I'm a klutz when it comes to being hungry and not knowing where to find a decent place to eat. The midday siesta also has me a bit baffled. What to do? What to do? I'll be visiting in Sept. so I think I have some time to figure this out. Thanks again for your insights.
Mar 22nd, 2007, 06:20 AM
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Kraav, thanks for your concern. No thefts or attacks. DD14 and I are pretty tuned in to our surroundings; the guys are pretty oblivious, but they are big, so that helps anyway. I carried a messenger bag, usually strapped across my body. It zips, and my wallet was in a zipper compartment inside that. I carried one credit card at a time, and DH carried one different credit card. DH has a few shirts that have chest pockets that zip closed, then a flap velcros down; that is where he kept his wallet. (For a guy who spends literally no time thinking about his travel wardrobe, these shirts worked remarkably well.) He also wore some cargo pants with zipper compartments; I noticed one evening that one of the compartments was unzipped. I wondered if someone had unzipped it, only to find it empty.
As for the next trip, I was thinking about Holland and Belgium for this July, but looking at plane fares and not finding any "perfect" apartments, we may move that trip to next summer. I'd already promised a Germany vacation for next summer (DD14 will be taking German in school) and I think I'd rather take an extra week and combine the two trips (and save the $6000 in plane fares). I'm considering a Boston/New England trip instead for the summer. I sort of feel like we've short-changed the US with all of our trips out of the country. As a Trip Planner, it makes me nervous to be in late March without plane tickets and reservations for the summer, but I guess I'll have to live with that. The problem is that as the kids get older, they have mandatory summer commitments, church choir tours, etc., so I can't figure out vacation dates as early as I used to be able to.
As for the next trip, I was thinking about Holland and Belgium for this July, but looking at plane fares and not finding any "perfect" apartments, we may move that trip to next summer. I'd already promised a Germany vacation for next summer (DD14 will be taking German in school) and I think I'd rather take an extra week and combine the two trips (and save the $6000 in plane fares). I'm considering a Boston/New England trip instead for the summer. I sort of feel like we've short-changed the US with all of our trips out of the country. As a Trip Planner, it makes me nervous to be in late March without plane tickets and reservations for the summer, but I guess I'll have to live with that. The problem is that as the kids get older, they have mandatory summer commitments, church choir tours, etc., so I can't figure out vacation dates as early as I used to be able to.
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johnthedorf, I had to laugh at your comment/question, "The midday siesta also has me a bit baffled. What to do? What to do?" That was ME at the beginning of the trip. After a few days I realized that we should do what everyone else is doing: Eat lunch!!! If you eat a relaxed lunch at about 2 pm, you won't be hungry again till Barelona dinner time (9-11 pm).
Also, you can always visit musuems during that time-they don't close for siesta (note, however, that it costs 4 euro to get into the cathedral in the afternoon, but it is free in the morning and late afternoon/early eveniong). In addition, the large stores stay open.
Also, you can always visit musuems during that time-they don't close for siesta (note, however, that it costs 4 euro to get into the cathedral in the afternoon, but it is free in the morning and late afternoon/early eveniong). In addition, the large stores stay open.
Mar 22nd, 2007, 06:57 AM
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Duh! LOL....how funny. Guess I should worry about getting the train to Girona, then back to Barcelona to get the night train to San Sebastian. Sometimes I wish I could make things simple! Sad to hear that Montserrat was a trial. Back in the Olden days the restaurant was first class and not over run with tourists. Ah well, to be expected I guess.
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Missypie - Thanks for the additional info on the cablecar. It's only a possibility for us - I have a fear of heights that may make that voyage impossible for me to do, though I hate to deny it to DH and DS. And I asked about your comment about the kids feeling underdressed at Set Portes just to get a feel for what to have our DS wear; he actually doesn't mind dressing up a little, so I'll encourage him to wear polo shirts, and possibly khakis (though they may be khaki shorts, as we'll be there in May).
On your restaurant map - I have mine color-coded (also a source of merriment for the rest of the family). One color for places that look like good lunch stops, then another color for seafood, ice cream, or bakeries, and the like. It's anal, but it WORKS!
Let me know if you need ideas on Boston/New England - we took a great trip in that area last year, starting with a meeting DH had in Boston, then down the coast (everyone, surprisingly, loved Newport) to end in NYC. We would have visited Maine, as on previous trips, we were there in March - not the best time for Maine!
On your restaurant map - I have mine color-coded (also a source of merriment for the rest of the family). One color for places that look like good lunch stops, then another color for seafood, ice cream, or bakeries, and the like. It's anal, but it WORKS!
Let me know if you need ideas on Boston/New England - we took a great trip in that area last year, starting with a meeting DH had in Boston, then down the coast (everyone, surprisingly, loved Newport) to end in NYC. We would have visited Maine, as on previous trips, we were there in March - not the best time for Maine!
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missypie-
Thanks for the great trip report. I've always wanted to visit Barcelona, but without any easy connections to get there from DFW, I just can't afford to go with my limited time off.
Your next-year trip to Germany/Holland/Belgium sounds exciting. I have gone on 2 separate trips in 2005 to Holland and Belgium. I will be heading to Germany (franconia region) next month.
As for New England, I'll recommend Maine/Arcadia/Mount Desert Island. We went there last summer with my in-laws. They vacation there almost every summer and rent a house for a week. (Though getting there is almost as convoluted as getting to Barcelona. It involves flying DFW-LGA, LGA-Bangor, then a 1-hour drive.)
[We really should have a DFW GTG so that we can exchange notes - and for me to borrow your Barcelona restaurant map for future use!]
Thanks for the great trip report. I've always wanted to visit Barcelona, but without any easy connections to get there from DFW, I just can't afford to go with my limited time off.
Your next-year trip to Germany/Holland/Belgium sounds exciting. I have gone on 2 separate trips in 2005 to Holland and Belgium. I will be heading to Germany (franconia region) next month.
As for New England, I'll recommend Maine/Arcadia/Mount Desert Island. We went there last summer with my in-laws. They vacation there almost every summer and rent a house for a week. (Though getting there is almost as convoluted as getting to Barcelona. It involves flying DFW-LGA, LGA-Bangor, then a 1-hour drive.)
[We really should have a DFW GTG so that we can exchange notes - and for me to borrow your Barcelona restaurant map for future use!]
