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carolw Sep 16th, 2010 05:14 AM

Malpensa-Milano centrale train
 
Any news on the direct train from Malpensa to Milano Centrale?

Grazie!

Ann1 Sep 16th, 2010 05:52 AM

Last time we did that we took the bus right outside the terminal to Milano Centrale. It was literally door to door and very easy.

nochblad Sep 16th, 2010 09:25 AM

see my recent posting here - http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...o-florence.cfm

Ann1 Sep 16th, 2010 07:00 PM

The buses leave every 20 minutes when you walk out of the main arrivals building.

kybourbon Sep 16th, 2010 08:32 PM

>>>>The buses leave every 20 minutes when you walk out of the main arrivals building<<<

The OP is asking about the direct train service that is supposed to start, not the bus. So far, only showing two departures per day at 12:21 and 19:21.

12:21 MALPENS 13:03 MI C.LE 00:42 9517 FRECCIAROSSA ES Italia AV 15,00 € (1st cl) 12,00 € (2nd cl)

19:21 MALPENS 20:03 MI C.LE 00:42 9539 FRECCIAROSSA ES Italia AV 15,00 € 12,00 €

DalaiLlama Sep 16th, 2010 08:44 PM

From trenitalia website:

Dal 13 settembre nuovi collegamenti per Milano, Torino e Bolzano
Con l'introduzione dei nuovi collegamenti diventa ancora più comodo viaggiare in treno da e verso: Milano, Torino e Bolzano. Le tue esigenze cambiano, Trenitalia le segue!

Nuovi collegamenti Frecciarossa per Malpensa Aeroporto

Con una coppia di treni Frecciarossa da/per Firenze (9502 -9539) e una coppia di treni Frecciarossa da/per Napoli (9517 -9520) puoi raggiungere l'aeroporto di Malpensa direttamente da una delle città della dorsale Napoli - Milano, senza scomodi cambi di treno, nei seguenti orari:

- partenza da Firenze Santa Maria Novella alle 7:00, da Bologna alle 7:40 e da Milano Centrale alle 8:57. Arrivo all' aeroporto di Malpensa alle 9:39;

- partenza da Napoli Centrale alle 10:50, da Roma Termini alle 12:15, da Firenze Santa Maria Novella alle 14:00, da Bologna alle 14:40, da Milano Centrale alle 15:57. Arrivo all'aeroporto di Malpensa alle ore 16:39;

Viceversa, puoi partire dall’aeroporto di Malpensa con un treno Frecciarossa nei seguenti orari:

- partenza dall’aeroporto Malpensa alle ore 12:21. Arrivo a Milano Centrale alle13:03, a Bologna alle 14:20, a Firenze Santa Maria Novella alle 15:00, a Roma Termini alle 16:45 e a Napoli Centrale alle ore 18:10.

- partenza dall'aeroporto Malpensa alle 19:21. Arrivo a Milano Centrale alle 20:03, a Bologna alle 21:20 e a Firenze Santa Maria Novella alle 22:00.

Translation of the above:

As of Sept. 13 - new connections for Milan, Turin, and Bolzano

With the introduction of the new connections it has become even more comfortable to travel by train to and from Milan, Turin, and Bolzano. Your needs change, Trenitalia follows.

New connections Frecciarossa to Malpensa airport

With a pair of Frecciarossa trains to/from Florence (9502-9539) and a pair of Frecciarossa trains to/from Naples (9517-9520) you can reach the Malpensa airport directly from one of the cities on the line Naples-Milan, without the awkward change of trains, as per the following timetable:

- Departure from Florence Santa Maria Novella at 7:00, from Bologna at 7:40, and from Milano Centrale at 8:57. Arrival at Malpensa airport at 9:39.

- Departure form Naples Centrale at 10:50, from Roma Termini at 12:15, from Florence Santa Maria Novella at 14:00, from Bologna at 14:40, from Milano Centrale at 15:57. Arrival at Malpensa airport at 16:39.

Vice-versa you can depart from Malpensa airport with a Frecciarossa train as per the following timetable:

- Departure from Malpensa airport at 12:21. Arrival at Milano Centrale at 13:03, at Bologna at 14:20, at Florence Santa Maria Novella at 15:00, at Roma Termini at 16:45, and at Napoli Centrale at 18:10.

- Departure from Malpensa airport at 19:21. Arrival at Milano Centrale at 20:03, at Bologna at 21:20, at Florence Santa Maria Novella at 22:00.

carolw Sep 17th, 2010 03:08 AM

Thanks everyone-lots of good information!

Matt Sep 17th, 2010 04:53 AM

Since 1999, there is a train every 30 minutes from and to Milano Cadorna: http://www.malpensaexpress.it/

nochblad Sep 17th, 2010 05:32 AM

Matt

the whole point of the posting is that until now there has not been a direct rail link with Milano Centrale and thus the rest of the network.

With the new timetable in December there will be four trains an hour in each direction with two going to/from Milano Cadorna and two going to/from Milano Centrale.

Elsewhere many post about the bus connections but, whilst reasonably priced, there is always the uncertainty of when you arrive at destination especially around morning and early evening rush hour. The train connection now resolves this.

The next connection that everyone is waiting for - and it should be up and running in time for the 2015 Expo - is the metro link between Milano Linate airport and the city.

Ann1 Sep 17th, 2010 07:59 AM

kybourbon: I understand that, but since the trains aren't running that often now, I was offering a direct bus. The bus doesn't stop anywhere and is easy to access.

nochblad Sep 17th, 2010 08:42 AM

Ann1 - kybourbon is right. It's a bit like being back at school - read the question!

Ann1 Sep 17th, 2010 10:13 AM

Just a point of information.

Matt Sep 17th, 2010 02:06 PM

nochblad, I had understood the question. I was just pointing out that there is also a train in place from Cadorna.

Also, at the moment there are only two trains a day between Centrale and Malpensa, hardly a useful service.

"With the new timetable in December there will be four trains an hour in each direction with two going to/from Milano Cadorna and two going to/from Milano Centrale."

Can you post a link on this? I didn't find on the trenitalia website. Thanks.

nochblad Sep 17th, 2010 02:37 PM

I could find nothing in English on Trenitalia but there is the info here under the rail section - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malpensa_Airport#Rail

DalaiLlama Sep 17th, 2010 02:48 PM

If the current schedule as posted above is not working for you, (and by you I mean all those reading and engaging by now, not just the OP) and you may want to go further than Milan anyway, here's a guote from the Malpensa website:

Lufthansa airport bus connects Malpensa to Alessandria, Bellinzona, Bergamo, Brescia, Chiasso, Como, Genoa, Lugano, Milan, Novara, Turin, Varese. Lufthansa Limousine service is available to any destination in Northern Italy and Southern Switzerland.

Bus tickets are available starting from only €7,00. Passengers will be directed to bus stops by signs in the airport.

All services can be used not only by Lufthansa passengers but by any person who needs to transfer to and from Malpensa. Further information on the services, time schedules, prices and online booking are available on www.lufthansaairportbus.it.

DalaiLlama Sep 17th, 2010 03:01 PM

Reading the newspaper Corriere della Sera I just came across this:


LE NOVITA' - Dal prossimo 13 dicembre, secondo quanto dichiarato dall’assessore alla Mobilità della Regione Lombardia, Raffaele Cattaneo, i collegamenti diretti da Milano a Malpensa saranno quattro ogni ora, due in partenza dalla stazione di Cadorna e due dalla stazione Centrale. Per chi usa i Frecciarossa, a Milano c'è un'altra novità: «MiTo», la nuova fermata di Milano Rogoredo per otto Frecciarossa che collegano Torino con Roma.


http://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cr...53092076.shtml

Jean Sep 17th, 2010 03:40 PM

The Lufthansa bus provides welcome direct and fast service to some places, but other routes take longer and some routes cost more than using LeNord from Malpensa or taking the bus to Centrale and using Trenitalia.

It's nice to have options, but do compare costs and the duration of the journey. I'm sure for some people boarding once and loading luggage once is worth the extra time and money.

Matt Sep 18th, 2010 01:38 AM

Thanks, this is good news. Let's hope it goes ahead as planned.

kybourbon Sep 18th, 2010 03:32 AM

Google translation of DalaiLlama's post.

THE NEW '- From 13th December, as declared by the Councillor for Mobility of the Region of Lombardy, Raffaele Cattaneo, direct connections from Milan Malpensa will be four hours each, two departing from Cadorna station and two from the Central Station. For those uses Frecciarossa in Milan there's another new "myth", the new bus stop in Milan for eight Rogoredo Frecciarossa linking Turin to Rome.

This link from Trenitalia tells a little bit about it and some other new trains (in Italian).
http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...003f16f90aRCRD

carolw Sep 18th, 2010 04:14 AM

The Lufthansa bus sounds like it might be worth the extra expense to avoid changes.

Can tickets be purchased on the bus?

It goes to Piazza Matteotti in Como. Has anyone taken the C30 bus from there to Bellagio?

Thanks!

Jean Sep 18th, 2010 11:34 AM

My husband doesn't do well on buses on twisty-turny roads, so when we're without a car we've always taken the ferry or hydrofoil. My favorite way is the passenger-only ferry, but it's slower than the bus.

DalaiLlama Sep 18th, 2010 02:32 PM

A subtle numerical point about kybourbon's kindly translation - it's not " direct connections from Milan Malpensa will be four hours each" but "four connections each hour" - two connections every hour to Cadorna (nothing new there), and two connections every hour to Milano Centrale (that's very new).

tedgale Sep 18th, 2010 03:16 PM

Bookmarking.
{We're arriving at Malpensa on Oct. 16 and are working out where we'll head from there.}

PS: @ Jean: What service is LeNord, if I may ask? -- I've never heard of it.

Jean Sep 18th, 2010 04:31 PM

tedgale, LeNord is a private rail company operating generally north of Milan, including the Malpensa Express train from the airport to the Milano Cadorna station, and one line north from Brescia.

http://www.lenord.it/

The website used to work very well in the English mode, but something has happened in the last year or so. Now you can't search a route in English, but you can in Italian. While in the "Orari e news" section, you can search a route and look at maps of the various routes. When you're looking at the route maps, click on a station to find details about services available there. Three of the LeNord stations are shared with Trenitalia, and you can make connections: Laveno Mombello, Varese and Novara.

Most tourists would only be interested in the Milano network of routes, although the other network between Edolo (not far from the Swiss border), past Lago d'Iseo, and Brescia and/or Rovato Borgo runs through a beautiful area.

Sometimes the Trenitalia website displays results for LeNord, but I don't trust it to show every option so I search on LeNord for LeNord trains and Trenitalia for Trenitalia trains.

carolw Sep 19th, 2010 09:28 AM

Thanks DalaiLlama your info on the Lufthansa bus.

Is there anything I should know about getting the C30 bus from Piazza Matteotti to Bellagio?

If our flight to Malpensa arrives on time we're hoping to get the 9:30 am Lufthansa bus to Como.(Piazza Matteoti)

Grazie!

tedgale Sep 20th, 2010 04:20 PM

@Jean: Thank you.

cazzani Oct 12th, 2010 11:18 PM

all trains available to and from Milano to Malpensa available here

http://www.orariotrenimalpensa.it/

nochblad Oct 13th, 2010 01:24 AM

cazzani - excellent link!

tedgale Oct 16th, 2010 10:12 AM

Ewwww.
I just took the Malpensa- Milano Centrale bus today (a quiet Saturday) at noon.
It was awful:
Late leaving, made further stops (Terminal 2, MilanoFiera) and crawled into Milano Centrale 1h10 later.
Cheap but otherwise has little to recommend.
Bring on the train service!

colduphere Oct 16th, 2010 10:27 AM

Ted - last day of Gatineau Park colours. Hurry back.

nochblad Oct 16th, 2010 12:13 PM

tedgale

Exactly why I have posted regularly about the new train links. Anyone familiar with Milan traffic and the autostrada to Malpensa - the busiest in Italy - knows that the bus service, whilst cheap, does not guarantee departure and arrival times.
The direct Milano Centrale link is a start. It is possible that the new train service - NTV http://www.ntvspa.it/en/index.html - will also introduce a Malpensa connection.

tedgale Oct 17th, 2010 11:36 PM

I just checked, for fun, the Malpensa-Milano Cadorno train schedule. From Malpensa to Milano Cadorno is 29 minutes. Trains leave every 30 minutes.

WIthin the Malpensa Terminal 1, the route to the train is clearly marked throughout the terminal.

Not sure whether the connection is as easy to Terminal 2, the discount carrier terminal.

When I was trip planning, I dismissed Milano Cadorno because I imagined it was a remote quasi-suburban station. Wrong. We walked by there yesterday, after a smashing brunch at the Triennale gallery. It is about 5 minutes walk from the Triennale, hence 10+ minutes from the Castello Sforzesco. It is small and modern and sited in a very pleasant square.

More to the point, it is on a main subway line that goes -- rapidly and very safely, swiftly and cheaply (1E per ride or 3 E for a day pass) -- to useful locations such as Milano Centrale FS...

BTW: We quickly became totally sold on the Milan metro system for convenience and speed. There are subway entrances on just about every corner of the core, it seems.

Cold: Pls aske leaves to stay put on branches until we return Nov.1.

nochblad Oct 18th, 2010 01:53 AM

Unfortunately to catch the train from Terminal 2 you have to take the (regular and free) intra-terminal bus as the train station is at Terminal 1.

Therefore, if you do not have time constraints then the bus from Terminal 2 to Milano Centrale is perhaps more convenient than the train.

kybourbon Oct 18th, 2010 05:05 AM

>>>hence 10+ minutes from the Castello Sforzesco.<<<

Only one short block connecting them so less than ten minutes. On this block between Cadorna and the castel is the Sena bus stop. I caught this bus to Siena for 10€ about a month ago. The bus takes about 1/2 hour longer than taking the train, but the train is about 60€.

Cadorna is an easy subway connection in Milan. The Milan subway lists a fee/ticket for taking your luggage on the subway. I'm not sure anyone pays attention to it though or if it's only for certain large luggage.

http://www.atm-mi.it/en/Pages/default.aspx

>>>Luggage Ticket
Price: € 1.00
Validity: 75 minutes after stamping. Ticket is valid for the transport of a single piece of luggage for which a ticket is required. On the Milan city network a standard Milan ticket may be used in place of a luggage ticket. As for all tickets, luggage tickets should be stamped at the start of the journey; luggage tickets should be presented to ticket inspectors alongside your ticket or travel card if requested.


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