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T_Cake Mar 3rd, 2011 06:45 PM

Madrid to Paris Train?
We are traveling to Spain in July. From Madrid, we would like to go to Lyon, France if possible by train. I have read alot about the high speed trains between Madrid and Paris, but can't seem to find a schedule for a train that goes to and from Madrid to Lyon, France or Madrid to Paris, France. If anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. We are looking for the quickest travel possible, as we have to be in Lyon for work by the 17th, and will be traveling into the Alps from there.

fmpden Mar 3rd, 2011 07:27 PM

For schedules, use Schedules for July are probably not available so just the same day of week and dates in April for the schedules.

WomBatt Mar 3rd, 2011 11:09 PM

As above - schedules could be changed from June 12th onward but to find what is very likely input imminent dates.

Man_in_seat_61 Mar 5th, 2011 06:43 AM

There is an excellent 'Trainhotel' sleeper train direct from Madrid to Paris.

See for photos and info, and book online at It departs Madrid Chamartin 19:00, arrives Paris around 9am next morning.

There are no high speed daytime trains Madrid-Paris, though it's possible to travel Madrid-Paris by day with a change at the frontier, taking all day.

There is a new Barcelona-Paris high speed service twice a day, that might be what you're read about. And there's a direct barcelona-Paris trainhotel.

PalenQ Mar 5th, 2011 07:39 AM

There is a new Barcelona-Paris high speed service twice a day, that might be what you're read about.>

Isn't it true that this service does not yet serve Barcelona but terminates in Figueras?

Anyway there is the overnight hotel train Man 61 seat talks about and if you want to go straight thru Madrid to Lyon this is about the only option if you want to do it without riding all day on trains - otherwise train to French border, TGV to Paris and then switch stations for TGV to Lyon.

From Barcelona it is much easier to reach Lyon via the Catalan Talgo to Montpellier then switch to TGV train for Lyon.

You may want to investigate the Spain-France railpass if traveling other places in these countries by train. For loads of great info on trains in those countries I always spotlight these great sites: (Man in Seat 61's commercial site); and

TimS Mar 5th, 2011 08:59 AM

There is no need to go to Paris and then backtrack to Lyon.

You can go Madrid-Barcelona-Figueres-Montpellier-Lyon, departing at 09:30 and arriving at 19:20. See the timetables on the German Rail site,

PalenQ Mar 7th, 2011 09:45 AM

The route TimS aptly points out is a relatively new option due to the opening of the Madrid-Barcelona high-speed rail line and also the opening of the Figueras-Montpellier high-speed line with a tunnel under the Pyrenees.

Man_in_seat_61 Mar 7th, 2011 10:14 AM

I suspect the cheapest and most time-efffective option will still be 72 euros for a tourist sleeper Madrid-Paris, then from 20 euro for the 2-hour high-speed run next moring to Lyon.

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