Madrid airport explosion - 12/30/06
Dec 29th, 2006, 11:47 PM
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Link in Spanish to El Pais:
http://tinyurl.com/ylqr7z
http://tinyurl.com/ylqr7z
Dec 30th, 2006, 12:03 AM
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Dec 30th, 2006, 12:14 AM
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wow. havenīt turned on the radio or t.v. yet today. thanks for posting.
shame my mom has to read that before flying there tomorrow.!!
i am interested in our governmentīs (spain) repsonse to this one.
shame my mom has to read that before flying there tomorrow.!!
i am interested in our governmentīs (spain) repsonse to this one.
Dec 30th, 2006, 02:22 AM
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Link in English
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12370493/
ETA (Basque Separatist Group) claims responsibility
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12370493/
ETA (Basque Separatist Group) claims responsibility
Dec 30th, 2006, 03:21 AM
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Here's the CNN link; apparently the authorities had time to evacuate the terminal affected and the others are operating "notmally."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...ast/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...ast/index.html
Dec 30th, 2006, 03:22 AM
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It's little more than just a common terrorists. ETA is claiming responsibility, but it does not mean they didn't want to hurt more people.
According to a well connected friend in Madrid, the arrival hall is heavily damaged as 5 floors of the parking garage have collapsed.
It's unconfirmed at the moment, but he's usually a good source.
According to a well connected friend in Madrid, the arrival hall is heavily damaged as 5 floors of the parking garage have collapsed.
It's unconfirmed at the moment, but he's usually a good source.
Dec 30th, 2006, 08:33 AM
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Hi there,
It was ETA, a "nice" way to show that they are still around.
A young guy is still missing, he had dropped his girlfriend at the arrivals to pick someone coming on an early flight, and then parked right by the van with the bomb.
I spoke with some friends in Madrid this afternoon, and all of them had heard the explosion and saw the smoke ( Lin, Iīm talking about people living in Sanchinarro and Las Tablas).
I am heading back to Madrid late on New Yearīs Eve, and I am supposed to land at the T4, so Iīll see how it is everything. Flights are supposed to be only disrupted at T4 ( Iberia, BA, Vueling ...) and not at all at T1 and T2 ( Lufthansa, AF, Easyjet ...).
Rgds, Cova
Ps. Corrections, there are two people missing.
EL MUNDO - http://tinyurl.com/yk8cvs
It was ETA, a "nice" way to show that they are still around.
A young guy is still missing, he had dropped his girlfriend at the arrivals to pick someone coming on an early flight, and then parked right by the van with the bomb.
I spoke with some friends in Madrid this afternoon, and all of them had heard the explosion and saw the smoke ( Lin, Iīm talking about people living in Sanchinarro and Las Tablas).
I am heading back to Madrid late on New Yearīs Eve, and I am supposed to land at the T4, so Iīll see how it is everything. Flights are supposed to be only disrupted at T4 ( Iberia, BA, Vueling ...) and not at all at T1 and T2 ( Lufthansa, AF, Easyjet ...).
Rgds, Cova
Ps. Corrections, there are two people missing.
EL MUNDO - http://tinyurl.com/yk8cvs
Dec 30th, 2006, 08:36 AM
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This from the BBC: the Basque separatist group Eta have carried out a car bomb attack at a Madrid airport ending a ceasefire, the Spanish government has announced.
At least four people were injured in the blast in the car park of terminal four at Barajas Airport. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6219431.stm
At least four people were injured in the blast in the car park of terminal four at Barajas Airport. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6219431.stm
Jan 2nd, 2007, 02:11 AM
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Two persons are still missing, thought to have been asleep in their car in the parking garage while awaiting the early morning arrival of a family member.
As usual, ETA "phoned in" the bomb placement before its detonation and the police then executed a "controlled detonation" although it still destroyed the entire parking garage and all the cars in it.
Inbound/Outbound travel to all terminals is back on schedule now but the parking situation at the new Terminal 4 is complicated.
Note that the explosion did not take place in any of the teminals nor on/near any planes. Still, a terrorist attack - no matter who's responsible - is still terrorist attack and should be taken seriously - although you'd hardly notice by asking the people on the street who tend to not have any tinge of fear in their voices. I really admire the Spanish people for this. There's a bomb blast one day and the next day it's nearly business-as-usual. They're a resilient people.
Saludos, BarcelonaMan/MadridMan
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As usual, ETA "phoned in" the bomb placement before its detonation and the police then executed a "controlled detonation" although it still destroyed the entire parking garage and all the cars in it.
Inbound/Outbound travel to all terminals is back on schedule now but the parking situation at the new Terminal 4 is complicated.
Note that the explosion did not take place in any of the teminals nor on/near any planes. Still, a terrorist attack - no matter who's responsible - is still terrorist attack and should be taken seriously - although you'd hardly notice by asking the people on the street who tend to not have any tinge of fear in their voices. I really admire the Spanish people for this. There's a bomb blast one day and the next day it's nearly business-as-usual. They're a resilient people.
Saludos, BarcelonaMan/MadridMan
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Jan 2nd, 2007, 03:39 AM
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Two people are still missing, there was an advice by the terrorists but the explotion was about 30 minutes before than expected, so it was not controled by the police but by the terrorists. They were two Ecuatorians who were sleeping for a while in their cars (waiting for the arrival of their relatives from Ecuador).
Police sources told that between 500 and 800 Kilos were used in the blast, the highest amount of explosives in ETA history in a single attack.
I just want to add a point...
Many media say "ETA (Basque Separatist Group) claims responsibility", we HAVE TO COMPLAIN because we cannot say "Separatist Group" when, in fact, they are criminals, terrorists (as AlQaeda members are) and many other adjectives I refuse to use. They are responsible for almost 1000 deads in 40 years of terror.
Police sources told that between 500 and 800 Kilos were used in the blast, the highest amount of explosives in ETA history in a single attack.
I just want to add a point...
Many media say "ETA (Basque Separatist Group) claims responsibility", we HAVE TO COMPLAIN because we cannot say "Separatist Group" when, in fact, they are criminals, terrorists (as AlQaeda members are) and many other adjectives I refuse to use. They are responsible for almost 1000 deads in 40 years of terror.
Jan 3rd, 2007, 01:45 AM
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I completely agree with Josemacall. I don't understand why media around the world keep referring to ETA as "separatists" instead of terrorists which is all they are.
On another note, Zapatero's televised statement after the bombing has been shamefully weak, not to mention his TV address the night before the bombing, in which he boasted that things were going swell on the terrorist front.
On another note, Zapatero's televised statement after the bombing has been shamefully weak, not to mention his TV address the night before the bombing, in which he boasted that things were going swell on the terrorist front.
Jan 3rd, 2007, 02:00 AM
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maybe the spaniards should go chant in front of the socialist party offices and say "we want the TRUTH!"
heavens knows what the terrorists got P'O'd about during the president's speech the day before.
but they sure "showed them(us)".
Not re-arming? wow. pretty bad calculations.
yes.. they are nothing but murderers.
i think we would all vote for giving them a little separate island somewhere.
in the meantime.. this is not a battle ground, and hopefully they have made their point for the year.
time will tell.
heavens knows what the terrorists got P'O'd about during the president's speech the day before.
but they sure "showed them(us)".
Not re-arming? wow. pretty bad calculations.
yes.. they are nothing but murderers.
i think we would all vote for giving them a little separate island somewhere.
in the meantime.. this is not a battle ground, and hopefully they have made their point for the year.
time will tell.
Jan 3rd, 2007, 02:50 AM
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"yes.. they are nothing but murderers."
What complete nonsense.
They're lots of other things including threats to Spain's political system, friends of other terrorists and recipients of funds.
And fighting them requires understanding them, what they're campaigning for and how they operate.
Insisting they (or their chums in Ireland) always be called terrorists, murderers or green-eyed Martians gets no-one anywhere. It's just inverted Political Correctness - just as fatuous as nonsense like "herstory" or "mentally challenged".
Calling them separatists is - in most cases - the simple truth. It no more implies approval than calling them Basques.
And it's not the job of a news organisation to convey approval or disapproval anyway.
What complete nonsense.
They're lots of other things including threats to Spain's political system, friends of other terrorists and recipients of funds.
And fighting them requires understanding them, what they're campaigning for and how they operate.
Insisting they (or their chums in Ireland) always be called terrorists, murderers or green-eyed Martians gets no-one anywhere. It's just inverted Political Correctness - just as fatuous as nonsense like "herstory" or "mentally challenged".
Calling them separatists is - in most cases - the simple truth. It no more implies approval than calling them Basques.
And it's not the job of a news organisation to convey approval or disapproval anyway.
Jan 3rd, 2007, 02:52 AM
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You got the point lincasanova & Eric_S...
"...we would all vote for giving them a little separate island somewhere...IN HELL"
Nobody must forget who Mr. ShoeMaker (Zapatero) friends are... Hugo Chaves, Evo Morales, Fidel Castro, some terrorists as ERC, Eta, and many more.
He's being lying for years:
- We haven't talk with terrorist before taking the Goverment (but meatings are reported since Popular Party was ruling the former Goverment)
- There is no re-arming (after 350 guns were stolen by ETA in France)
- There is no violent activity (while almost 260 attacks have been reported, including burned coaches in streets while they were working)
- He called last 28th the murdered people by ETA in the last years "MORTAL ACCIDENTS" instead of victims of terrorism (12/28 in Spain is a day for jokes, day of the innocents).
What a bad joker he is.
Please, let's remove that clown (my deepest respects for all clowns out there).
"...we would all vote for giving them a little separate island somewhere...IN HELL"
Nobody must forget who Mr. ShoeMaker (Zapatero) friends are... Hugo Chaves, Evo Morales, Fidel Castro, some terrorists as ERC, Eta, and many more.
He's being lying for years:
- We haven't talk with terrorist before taking the Goverment (but meatings are reported since Popular Party was ruling the former Goverment)
- There is no re-arming (after 350 guns were stolen by ETA in France)
- There is no violent activity (while almost 260 attacks have been reported, including burned coaches in streets while they were working)
- He called last 28th the murdered people by ETA in the last years "MORTAL ACCIDENTS" instead of victims of terrorism (12/28 in Spain is a day for jokes, day of the innocents).
What a bad joker he is.
Please, let's remove that clown (my deepest respects for all clowns out there).
Jan 3rd, 2007, 03:00 AM
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I hadn't read what flannruk said. But it is as simple as go to the dictionary and look for:
A person who kills others, is a MURDERER.
A person who causes terror is a TERRORIST.
What if I call Al Qaeda members "fighters of Alah"? Ah, I see, noway man.
We all understand perfectly clear what those terrorists of ETA are looking for.
You cannot forget that not all the separatists are terrorists, and of caurse, there are political parties that claims for independence, but within democratic ways. So I refuse to use the word "independist" because I'll be insulting all the independists that are not terrorist.
Do you know what I mean? It's simple, isn't it?
A person who kills others, is a MURDERER.
A person who causes terror is a TERRORIST.
What if I call Al Qaeda members "fighters of Alah"? Ah, I see, noway man.
We all understand perfectly clear what those terrorists of ETA are looking for.
You cannot forget that not all the separatists are terrorists, and of caurse, there are political parties that claims for independence, but within democratic ways. So I refuse to use the word "independist" because I'll be insulting all the independists that are not terrorist.
Do you know what I mean? It's simple, isn't it?
