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Apr 19th, 2010, 02:43 PM
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one tip I learned as a student traveler and still follow - put your overhead luggage in the rack across from your seat so you can see it!
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Apr 20th, 2010, 07:10 AM
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Actually the slow 48 hour send a bag ahead service makes sense for a traveler's heavy bulky luggage - a couple traveling together can put all their non-essential stuff in one bag - dirty laundry - clothes you will only use later - accumulated gifts, etcand just send it ahead ahead of time and travel only with your essentials in a smaller bag

this strategy also makes stopping off at say Bern easier - just one small bag to put in a locker or even if with wheels wheel around town.
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Apr 20th, 2010, 07:24 AM
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>>>Just throw your luggage on the luggage rack above your seat like everybody else. Thieves would have to step over you to get to it. If you can't lift it that high you have too much.<<<

Savvy advice. Everyone in Europe does it. But when you go to the restaurant car, take it with you (even if it stands in the way there).

I am not sure if a lock is a good idea. A lock might make a bag look interesting for thieves.

And keep any money, credit cards and documents on your body (not in a purse).

From reading this (and many other) thread, I conclude that many Fodorites' middle name is "Overworried".
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Apr 21st, 2010, 09:33 AM
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Living in Switzerland, I would never leave my suitcase in a place I couldn't see it. Seriously. Switzerland has more and more criminals and having your suitcase stolen can ruin the whole holiday.

Some suitcases are too big for the rack above. However, there is usually some space on the train to have a suitcase next to you.

Please don't leave it out of sight unless it has a lock on it.
You have been warned.
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Apr 21st, 2010, 10:18 AM
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While I may have sounded casual above, I definitely agree with keeping your suitcase in sight! I have mostly used the train just to get from Geneva out to Vevey and Montreux and back, but I was always able to simply keep my one small rolling suitcase by my side.
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Apr 22nd, 2010, 07:09 AM
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If anyone is worried about luggage security as this thread shows then by all means pay extra for a first-class ticket or pass - i always have a first-class pass and always - just always have ample room for my bags right next to me on an empty seat.
2nd class can be hectic as many Swiss trains are commuter trains - esp at rush hours but in first class there have been always - after umpteen zillion Swiss train rides - lots of empty seats.
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Apr 23rd, 2010, 02:01 AM
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Sorry Pal, but I've been in first class where most to all seats have been taken too. The Swiss are quite devoted to their trains.

However, I agree wholeheartedly that there is usually more space available in first class than second. However, if I were on a budget, I'd still go second class.
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Apr 23rd, 2010, 06:47 AM
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Trains all over Europe IME are getting fuller in each class for a variety of reasons - more efficiency in not carrying nearly empty cars around in first class so cutting back or whatever - yet still IME there is, like you say, usually more space available for luggage simply because there are 25% less seats in the same-size train car as 2nd class - 2nd class cars are the exact same size as first-class cars but have 25% more seats in the same space - thus if full 25% more folks competing for luggage storearge in the overhead racks and racks by the doors.

If i were on a budget i would go second-class, which in Switzerland is just dandy for most but if luggage were a concern i'd hop into first class and for most travelers doing a trip of a lifetime i do feel the extra money spend on first class is well worth it.
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Apr 25th, 2010, 03:57 PM
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All of you Swiss-loving-fodorites are the friendliest bunch of advisors I could ever hope to hear from! Thanks for so much advice, given in such a helpful spirit. I sure appreciate it. There is a lot going on at my house right now, and I am sure I couldn't get to Switzerland at all without your reassuring advice!

My main concern with luggage on the trains is not so much while seated. While seated I am sure we can watch our luggage. but my husband is a restless adventurer, and like Indiana Jones, he will most likely whip out his camera, and find an open window to climb out, then while perching on the roof of the train he will snap some photos! :-? And who is watching the luggage while he is up to these antics? That would be me. Now I would NOT like to be tied to my seat...what if I want to go to the dining car? Or what if I want to wander through the other train cars? I cannot take all the luggage with me. Or what if we want to get off the train at one of the interesting stops along the way?

but you have all given me lots of good ideas. Maybe we will have the bulkiest luggage sent ahead of us, and just carry with us the lighter weight items which I could actually lug to the dining car with me or wherever I go.
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Apr 25th, 2010, 10:34 PM
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Asking people who sit around you to keep an eye on your luggage while you leave your seat is always an option.
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Apr 25th, 2010, 10:41 PM
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Hi again,

I think you are over-thinking this.

Put all your valuables in a purse or pouch that you take with you; leave everything else in your bags that you may or may not want to lock to a pole.

When you go to the toilet or to a restaurant car or wander down the cars, the train will be moving. If anyone disturbs your stuff, s/he will be someone sitting nearby, and I'll bet money that your other neighbors will not allow it/will tell you what happened. Yes, there is more theft in Switzerland than there was even 10 years ago, but the thief is a rarity and others who see it will speak up.

The only dangerous time, I think, is when the train is at a station and a thief may think s/he can quickly grab something and then hop off before anyone can react. And though I do acknowledge that it is a possibility, I think the targets will be those LV bags --

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Apr 25th, 2010, 11:14 PM
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Suitcases really only to be watched at train stops. Swandav explained the rest nicely.

Nobody likes thieves and the Swiss will watch your things when your away from them.
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Apr 25th, 2010, 11:28 PM
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swandav2000 wrapped it up for this thread.
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