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scrb Jan 29th, 2008 09:17 AM

Lot of spam from rental agencies this year?
 
Been getting a bunch since the start of the year.

Some I'd forgotten I'd registered or sent inquiries through (which is probably how they got my email).

Wondering if it's indicative of a lower amount of bookings/higher vacancies than usual. Because of a slower economy or whatever.

Not sure if they're only targeting Americans, from whom bookings may be down because of the exchange rate or if there's slowdown in Europeans traveling within Europe.

Anyone else getting a lot of these emails?

phyllis_stein Jan 29th, 2008 09:35 AM

Now that you mention it ... yes.

Christina Jan 29th, 2008 10:12 AM

no more than usual, but one thing technologically happened to me that I don't quite understand. I booked a room at a Swiss hotel online on their website. Ever since that happened, I have been getting spam at that particular email address from some travel-related things (I think hotels, maybe tour companies) in Turkey. It cannot be coincidental as it is only that one email address it is happening to, and that address has never been posted publicly anywhere. IN fact, even my friends don't know it, it's one I use only for myself for "official" type things, like airline tickets, hotel bookings, etc.

It made me mad as I never had any spam on that email address before, and I wondered if they had gotten it somehow from that hotel or what. I didn't know how that Turkish entity could have gotten it just from my booking on their website, unless somehow their website is compromised.

I don't get hardly any travel spam, in general, but am not sure what you mean about rental agencies. Are you talking about apartments or what? I haven't gotten any from apartments.

scrb Jan 29th, 2008 10:16 AM

Like Holiday Rentals in the UK.

Or World Wide Rentals and things of that sort.

Some Paris agency emailed to say they will have an exhibit in NY, as part of some travel show?

WillTravel Jan 29th, 2008 10:59 AM

Either the Swiss hotel sold the address (less likely), or it's also possible that the receiver's computer is booby-trapped with a Trojan that harvests email addresses.

AnselmAdorne Jan 29th, 2008 11:48 AM

I get the Holiday Rentals e-mails; got one this morning, as a matter of fact. I also get mail from SNCF and AutoEurope, having dealt with both of those, too, in the last year or so. I haven't bothered to "unsubscribe" to any of them yet, but will when they make me cranky.

Anselm

scrb Jan 29th, 2008 12:51 PM

Either that or they brute-force and guess your addresses.

For instance, I have a Gmail address which I've never used at any point. When it was harder to get them, I went ahead and got this one but it's a word, no odd sequence of numbers (no numbers at all) or anything.

Somehow, I was getting spam in what I believe was Portuguese or maybe Middle Eastern or both.

It's an English word to the email address.

Christina Jan 29th, 2008 01:02 PM

I was thinking maybe the hotel had a Trojan or something ( I don't believe they sold it, no, and if they did it would be to some different kind of hotel company, one they owned or something). This was a 4* hotel in Luzerne.

They didn't just guess my email address as it's my personal name (including last name) which is very unusual and not near any normal word. If it were just from guessing or trying combinations, I'd be getting a lot more spam, as I know how that goes from some other websites. I've never gotten any on this one name but this incident.

bettyk Jan 29th, 2008 01:32 PM

The gemut.com newsletter the other day said that judging from the number of enquiries they have had and their discussions with others in the travel industry, travel to Europe will be slower this year due to the economy. They expect that there might be some sales and bargains coming from the airlines, hotels, etc., if this keeps up.

Robespierre Jan 29th, 2008 01:56 PM

It doesn't require a trojan. Any web site can usually trap your email address by coding an image fetch request <IMG SRC=> through an anonymous FTP server. Since most people use their email address as the default FTP user name, it would take only a few lines of code to capture it.

Be careful out there.


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