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London, Vienna, Prague - 3 Cities , No Car

Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 01:02 PM
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You can also catch the jubilee line from Canning Town.

Would I stay there as a tourist? No way. But it fits your bill of being cheap.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 01:28 PM
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Governator: there are probably lots of hotels for even less than you are paying. But it is nowhere near central London - I was talking about areas one would actually want to stay.

You got ff tickets so your transport is really cheap - if it was me I'd definitely want to treat my first-time visiting wife to someplace where she'd at least feel like she was IN London.

You don't have to break the budget to be in the center of things . . . But you do have to spend more than $70 . . .
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 01:43 PM
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MsTeacher,
Thanks!

janisj,

Stratford Tube Station
Station Street, London, Stratford, E15 1AZ
6 mins from The Westbridge Hotel

Carolyn,
I've been to Westminster Abbey, but I definitely need to revisit with my wife. Thanks for the tip re the British Library, I didn't see that last time, and it looks amazing in the pictures.

Bilboburger,
I think I'm going to be learning a lot about Czech beer and London Tubes on this trip.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 02:53 PM
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janisj,

Okay, now I understand what you meant. Some people place greater importance on the hotel experience than others. I enjoy a nice hotel, as well. Who doesn't?

However, I'd rather travel more and stay in less fancy hotels, than travel less and stay in more fancy hotels, and we do travel a lot.

I guess my wife is just going to have to suffer, being in ordinary hotels, a whole 30 minutes from the center of town, while seeing London, Vienna and Prague.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 03:09 PM
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It is a perfectly fine hotel. It is just in a terrible location for sightseeing. Especially for such a short visit.

I wasn't talking about the 'hotel experience' . . . I was talking about the location.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 03:28 PM
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How is it a terrible location for sight seeing it's a 6 minute walk to the tube and 30 minute ride to the center of town. We'll take the ride once in the morning, spend hours and hours seeing the sights and take the 30 minute ride back the hotel. After which we'll shower and take a taxi to go out to dinner and entertainment. Are there only restaurants in the center of town? Does London only exist in the center of town?

When you say something like this " "$80 will get you a park bench in London. (actually you might be able to get bunks in a dorm room in a hostel for that)" you are being quite presumptuous. Do you think every one who reads fodors , can or wants to spend a lot of money to be at an expensive hotel? Most are interested in the experience of traveling and seeing new things. Your travel enjoyment being in the center of town at a fancy hotel , is no better than mine, staying at a hotel in another part of London.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 04:35 PM
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I don't stay at fancy hotels but I try to be as close in as possible, particularly if I have a very short time in a city.

Not that janisj needs defending, but that's what she meant and I agree.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 05:07 PM
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Exactly. I will be in London in September. I could stay in my niece's flat for free (she will be elsewhere), but I don't want to make the 35 minute train ride to/from Waterloo. Of course, it helps that it will be the summer vacation and I will be staying in one of LSE's student dorms. Single with en suite bath and kitchenette for just under $100/night. On Drury Lane. But if I wasn't there I'd be a B&B in Bloomsbury for a bit over $100.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 07:57 PM
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Governator: You know nothing about my travel style. In London I stay in fancy hotels, and in very basic B&Bs, and in budget rental apartments, and pricelined business hotels for dirt cheap. But I do not stay out in Stratford.

(You keep saying the Westbridge is near a tube station - it isn't. Honest. It is about 1.5 miles from Bromley-by-Bow station and little bit farther from Bow Rd station - About the same from Plaistow station. All three are on the District and Hammersmith & City lines.)

It would have been a great place to stay during the Olympics - but for sightseeing in London, not really.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 08:14 PM
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Mea Culpa: I forgot there is tube service at Stratford station (I always think of it as a train/DLR station, but there is tube service)

It is in zone 3 so your transport will cost more.
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Govenator, sorry.... it seems like someone gets up on the wrong side of the bed every day!
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Old Mar 22nd, 2015, 09:24 PM
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You think it's to far out. I think it's a good deal, especially considering the excellent reviews. I have no problem riding 30 min on the tube to start the day. End of story. Thanks for the feedback. Have a nice day.
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Governator, just some practical advice from one living in Vienna. If by "Easter Week" you mean the week before the holiday, you may want to enjoy the Easter markets in the city. As with the Christmas markets, everyone has their favorites, and the ones at Am Hof and Freyung are mine. A little cozy and more "Old Vienna" than the one at Schönbrunn, though the setting at the latter is pretty on a nice day.

Be very aware of closing times. Stores close by 18:00 on Saturdays. Easter Sunday and Easter Monday are holidays here and all grocers and commercial stores will be closed. If you are seeking Easter Brunch (or really, any fine dining over these two days) make reservations now.

As annhig suggested, taking public up to Kahlenberg and then walking down through the vines is pleasant in good weather. Right now, though, the vines do not have any buds and the vintners are stirring up the soil for the spring, so dust is flying about, and the air is ripe from the large piles of fiaker waste hay being delivered. I suspect things will be quieter, but perhaps not much greener, over the Easter period.

The bigger heuriger are open; the smaller ones are starting to open up. Some open as early as 12:00; most open after 16:00, and the smaller ones sometimes only on good weather weekends. If you want to make reservations, our favorites are Kierlinger, Schübel Auer, and Zum Martin Sepp. Each is close to public transportation and the vineyards. If non-smoking is your preference for an indoor table, request "Nicht rauchen."

In general you are a little early for the garden season in Vienna, I'm afraid. If you elaborate on what you consider an "interesting" neighborhood I can perhaps offer suggestions.

Happy Planning!
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Governator - no-one likes being told that they have made a bad bargain, but as with your other thread you came here for advice, ignored it, and then get defensive when it's explained to you, again, why the advice was given.

We'll take the ride once in the morning, spend hours and hours seeing the sights and take the 30 minute ride back the hotel. After which we'll shower and take a taxi to go out to dinner and entertainment. Are there only restaurants in the center of town? Does London only exist in the center of town? >>

my experience of Stratford [atte Bow] is now somewhat dated but 20 years ago the "dinner and entertainment" options were pretty limited. looking at google maps not a lot seems to have changed but there is a Gala bingo down the road. What more could you want?

to be serious for a moment, the whole point of staying in the centre is that you CAN pop back to your hotel/student dorm and freshen up after a hard day's sightseeing, have a cup of tea, a shower, etc. and then go out and see a show or have a decent meal without traipsing back and forth on the tube/train whatever. A taxi from Stratford to the west end and back will not come cheap and will probably wipe out any savings you made on the hotel and more.

THAT was what everyone was telling you. Central London accommodation costs more, but it costs more for a reason.

if you find that we were wrong, please come back after your trip and tell us so. [and please include your wife's views too - I'd love to be there and see her face when you roll up at the Westfield - or maybe not].
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Old Mar 23rd, 2015, 03:39 AM
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Governator - it is obvious you have done a lot of homework and planning for your trip. I really hope it works out for you. I'm a budget traveler as well, but for only two days in London I would definitely want to be in the center.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2015, 04:46 AM
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What annhig said. Heck, you can even pop "home" during the day. I may well pick up a sandwich and eat lunch in my room if the weather isn't good enough for a picnic. Thus getting to enjoy Pret's crayfish and rocket without paying VAT.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2015, 04:58 AM
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"Are there only restaurants in the center of town? Does London only exist in the center of town? "

The three-word answer: Westfield Stratford Mall (http://uk.westfield.com/stratfordcity/food-and-drink/ ) . 80-odd eating places AND a bowling alley AND a multiplex cinema, complete with that heady tang of popcorn.

Compares very favourably indeed with most airports.

AND it's only 15 mins by Overground from Highbury tube station, where proper London starts.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2015, 07:42 AM
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Regarding my choice of Westbridge Hotel in East London.

http://www.thewestbridge.com/hotel-stratford-london

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...n_England.html

- Expedia rating 4.8/5, 100% of guests recommend
- Tripadvisor rating #113 of 1,062 Hotels in London
- 95GBP ($141)/night on hotel website
- $98 lowest price on any booking website.
- I paid $71/night (Using PL express deals)
- 5 Minute walk to Tube Station (as per google maps)
- 30 Minute Tube ride to the tourist attractions
- Very near A9 Bus to Stansted Airport (on to Vienna)

Would I like to be more central? Sure.
Am I unhappy with my choice of hotel? Not at all
Will it affect my ability to see all the sights and have a great time during my 2 full days in London? Of course not.
Will my wife be pissed that I chose this hotel? Possibly.
Will my wife be happy when she sees London? She'll be ecstatic.
Can hotels be gotten in London for $80/night or less? Yes
Do people use them? Of course, or they wouldn't be in business.

While I appreciate your advice to book closer to center, sometimes we have to make choices. I chose to get a well reviewed hotel, a short tube ride out from the center, in exchange for a great price.

To be honest, my original vacation plan was to go only to Vienna and Prague with a side trip to Cesky Krumlov. The 2 day stopover in London was a last minute idea.

My reservation with this hotel is already paid for and non-refundable. So, any further discussion is academic. I'll let you know when I return, how we liked it.

Once again, all feedback is appreciated. Thanks and have a nice day!
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Old Mar 23rd, 2015, 08:01 AM
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I actually think location-wise you are ok. Whilst not a celubrious West End address it's not like you're out the other side of City Airport. The connections at Stratford international are excellent. 6 mins from Liverpool St for more connections, or if you're wanting to go anywhere on the District Line you can get that from Mile End, same platform, no steps. This is in addition to the Jubilee Line service which has already been mentioned.

For eats you can also head into the Shoreditch area in the evening - love the Vietnamese restaurants, and you can get there uber quick using the overground (covered by your Oyster ticket). Spitalfields area has some very decent grub options. None of these are a million miles from your hotel/base. Failing that you eat in the city centre before you come back home for the night.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2015, 08:08 AM
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fourfortravel,

We'll actually be in Vienna Apr 6-8. Will there be any markets, then?

I'm really looking forward to going to a heuriger. That's the kind of thing my wife loves! I saw one on a travel show, and it looks like so much fun.

By interesting neighborhoods I mean photogenic. That could be anything from quaint houses and nice gardens to rough around the edges with graffiti to lively with people and markets.

Thanks for the feedback.
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