London Tube Question

May 18th, 2007, 01:10 PM
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I spent 4 days in London recently, and tried my best to research the most cost efficient method of riding the tube. But everytime I tried to read some factual information about the Oyster card and the fare structures, my eyes glazed over and I immediately got a headache. Just like in math class at high school.

We took the Gatwick Express into London (4 adults for the price of 2 deal), and used *that* ticket for our 241 admission coupons.

In London, all four of us bought our own Oyster cards for 20 gbp, meaning they were pre-loaded with 17 gbp for tube use.

We used them for four days. We never ran out of "money". And we kept our cards for future use, because they supposedly will never expire (nor the money loaded on them)

I don't know if this was some hideously expensive and inefficient thing to have done, but it sure was easy. What's the point in saving 20 bucks if it takes 5 hours to figure out how to do it? That's way more than 20 dollars worth of time.

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May 18th, 2007, 01:21 PM
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hi, y'all,

I've just had a brain-wave.

Why doesn't one of the more organised fodorites work out a computer programme to help us all calculate the most economic package.

should take more than acouple of years. By then they'll have changed the rules.

frankly, I'd rather go to Paris!

regards, ann
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May 18th, 2007, 02:21 PM
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What? You'd rather go to Paris, where you should buy a Carte Orange if you'll be there more than four days and not be going to Versailles or else Mobilis cards for the days that you'll use your Museum Pass but only use carnet tickets if your hotel location allows you to plan on walking to sights for the first two days............

TfL should give its customers access to the mainframe (that knows ALL the rules) via a SmartPhone gateway. A simple bolt-on user interface in WAP language would do the job quite handily.
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May 18th, 2007, 10:21 PM
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ann, please don't discourage me. I have been so looking forward to my trip to London!
I am going with the idea of letting the ticket seller at LHR and the oyster computer do the heavy thinking for me.

Are we,

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May 19th, 2007, 03:10 AM
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Take heart - I live here and I haven't the foggiest about the Oyster. It's harder than chinese algebra to understand.

However the bit I do understand is that TFL want you to use the bloody thing - so it is always the cheapest option for general use.
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May 19th, 2007, 05:19 AM
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hi, thereyet,

sorry - I'm stil smarting from my attempt to get on a london bus without a ticket!

can't be done, apparently.

the oyster definitely looks the way to go - what if you end up paying a few £ over the odds, it does look convenient [which is what they want, of course].

REferring back to your cricket thread, the test matches v the West Indies have now started, the current one at Lords, which is whre I believe you are headed in July. if you can access BBC radio 5 live extra via the net, you wil hear England doing quite well, so far. The best commentator is Jonathan Agnew [good surname!] IMO, but Henry Blofeld is also a hoot. [and yes, Ian Fleming did get his villan's name from his family - the story is that he was signing into his london club, and Henry's father and brother had signed in just above him...the rest is history].

happy listening,

regards, ann
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May 19th, 2007, 05:37 AM
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ann, I love that story! The image popped right into my head when I read that name. I will try and find that station when I get home from work today. I will be at a youth football camp run by NFL players today. I know it is that other football but it should be fun. Thanks for the heads up. Go England!

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May 19th, 2007, 02:44 PM
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hi, thereyet

WE didn't have such agood day as yesterday, unfortunately.

looks like it might be a draw.

#39;(

but the commentary should still be great.

regards, ann

PS - listen out for the quiz - I know you said that they have lots of chat and stats on Baseball broadcasts, but probably not many quizzes about the commentators.
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May 19th, 2007, 08:41 PM
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Hi ann, sorry about the bad day at Lord's. The BBC radio site is great...and free! Couldn't get the game on live though, must have been the time difference. I did see a story on J. Agnew though. We have a Bob Agnew here who is the program manager of the local sports radio station. Did you say that was a family name of yours? Any whoo, have a great day,


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May 20th, 2007, 02:54 AM
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THis is a good way to follow the cricket at work:

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/...079897,00.html

It looks like a draw.
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May 20th, 2007, 03:54 AM
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Thanks Audere, I will check it out. If yo uwant to look at a similar fancy statistical look at a baseball game, check this out.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/20070519.html

Just click any game marked live on Gameday. Pretty cool anyway. Too bad you can't get the audio with it.

By the way, what is about your screen name that says you are a Spurs fan?

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May 20th, 2007, 08:03 AM
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Thanks PatrickLondon, you learn something new everyday.

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May 21st, 2007, 08:26 AM
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I don't think I have an answer to the question about a refund of PAYG funds. If purchased originally with a debit card can unspent funds be refunded to the card or only in cash? Thank you.
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May 21st, 2007, 08:39 AM
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I've never done it, so I can't tell you. But you might try what we do: deliberately underestimate what you will need and let the system tell you how much more you'll need.

Try to get close to what you think you'll need for your initial load, then subtract £5 and load that amount. Keep an eye on your balance by scanning your card each day, and see if you can top up with exactly the right amount on the last day.
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May 21st, 2007, 09:07 AM
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Makes sense. Thank you Robespierre.
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