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suec1 Jun 28th, 2019 11:42 AM

London - south side?
 
I've spent way too much time looking for hotels - end of Aug / beginning of Sept. I am somewhat familiar with the environs of London, but not really on the south side of the river. We did visit the restored Globe on our last visit and saw Boroughs Market. Are there some pleasant hotels in that area? the neighborhood would be called???? We prefer somewhat quiet, near the tube. Other suggestions? - currently looking at hotel near Hyde Park but reviews are all over the spectrum. Do NOT want to stay near major shopping - last time near British Museum / Oxford St. - HATED it! South Kensington seems a bit steep - would like around $200 US per night. Thanks!

PalenQ Jun 28th, 2019 01:32 PM

Have you tried the official sites of TravelLodge and Premier Hotels as they are pretty cheap for London and run specials too. Check em out.

Rich Jun 28th, 2019 01:41 PM

The Hampton Waterloo might fit your bill . . not much ambiance, but pleasant enough

https://hamptoninn3.hilton.com/en/ho...LHX/index.html

thursdaysd Jun 28th, 2019 01:57 PM

I stayed in Premier Inns my last trip to the UK, and was very pleased. This one is just south of the river (the Marriott in the same building has killer views, stop by for a drink):

https://www.premierinn.com/gb/en/hot...unty-hall.html

janisj Jun 28th, 2019 02:42 PM

>>the neighborhood would be called????<<

The good neighborhoods for transport and hotels would mostly be 'Waterloo' and 'Southwark'. Southwark actually covers a large area and extends very far south. The convenient places would be in the little slice at the north end in the 'bulge' of the Thames. Basically from Tower Bridge to Waterloo. This would be the area of Southwark Cathedral, Borough Market, the Globe, Tate Modern, the Shard, Potters Field, OXO Tower, the Eye, etc.

walkinaround Jun 29th, 2019 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 16943871)
>>the neighborhood would be called????<<

The good neighborhoods for transport and hotels would mostly be 'Waterloo' and 'Southwark'. Southwark actually covers a large area and extends very far south. The convenient places would be in the little slice at the north end in the 'bulge' of the Thames. Basically from Tower Bridge to Waterloo. This would be the area of Southwark Cathedral, Borough Market, the Globe, Tate Modern, the Shard, Potters Field, OXO Tower, the Eye, etc.

Neighbourhood names can be confusing in London. Borough names are usually irrelevant and not synonymous with 'neighbourhood' when referring to places in central London and usually only a very small part of a borough is commonly used as a 'neighbourhood' name. You're talking about the area generally referred to as - Southbank (although generally west of Blackfriars bridge) or Bankside (east of Blackfriars). Area around Borough Market and station by that name is pretty commonly 'Borough' as the area name. Other names are sometimes used within this as well.

I agree with checking out Premier Inns. They are all over the place and generally great value. London has a lot of very poor value places, particularly in the mid-range. Premier Inn is considered lower end but I've always found the standard to be relatively high compared to more expensive hotels. Simple rooms but high quality fittings - bathrooms that are more European than British (that's a good thing), newer decor, clean. Generally well run as compared to many hotels where it's clear nobody cares. I've increasingly got to the point where I check Premier Inn first in many cases. Pricing within a Premier Inn can vary greatly based on the demand on that day.

I think you probably know this but areas in London (or anywhere) can vary greatly block to block. For example, you mention British Museum area and there are a lot of great, quiet areas right around there. I would not rule out a broad area just because there are unpleasant areas within it. Yes, Oxford Street can be awful but right around the corner can be lovely. Like saying Southbank is bad just because the area in front of County Hall is awful (and it is awful), despite the hotels within being commonly recommended on this forum.

thursdaysd Jun 29th, 2019 06:19 AM

Also, the Premier Inns I stayed in last year had AC. Just saying... I, too, don't get the problem with staying near the BM. My go-to B&B is on Gower Street (it has a lot of stairs, which I couldn't handle last year, that's why I was staying in Premier Inns, with elevators.)

Odin Jun 29th, 2019 06:30 AM

<<bathrooms that are more European than British (that's a good thing)>> What's the difference between a British bathroom and a European one?

enewell Jun 29th, 2019 07:24 AM

Thursdaysd, may I ask what your go-to B&B is on Gower Street?

thursdaysd Jun 29th, 2019 07:44 AM

https://www.ridgemounthotel.co.uk/

Not fancy, the Arosfa next door is a bit fancier and a bit pricier.

janisj Jun 29th, 2019 08:08 AM

>>You're talking about the area generally referred to as - Southbank (although generally west of Blackfriars bridge) or Bankside (east of Blackfriars). Area around Borough Market and station by that name is pretty commonly 'Borough' as the area name. Other names are sometimes used within this as well.<<

yes -- I do know all that . . . My explanation was to answer what the neighborhood is 'called', and that area is called 'Southwark' - meaning that is what a property's description would call it. But the vast majority of Southwark is not a good area for visitors to stay -- the places I mentioned were just so the OP could pinpoint the specific slice on a map . . .

walkinaround Jun 29th, 2019 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 16944254)
>>You're talking about the area generally referred to as - Southbank (although generally west of Blackfriars bridge) or Bankside (east of Blackfriars). Area around Borough Market and station by that name is pretty commonly 'Borough' as the area name. Other names are sometimes used within this as well.<<

yes -- I do know all that . . . My explanation was to answer what the neighborhood is 'called', and that area is called 'Southwark' - meaning that is what a property's description would call it. But the vast majority of Southwark is not a good area for visitors to stay -- the places I mentioned were just so the OP could pinpoint the specific slice on a map . . .

Not looking to argue. "You're" referred to the OP, not you. I should have said "the OP". I, in no way, even disputed anything in your post. I simply added to the information that you gave. So I don't know what this is all about. Maybe you got bored picking fights with Pal.

But since you seem like you want to argue, my point was that this area that you're simply calling "Southwark" is often referred to by other names depending on the location within that area. I agree that it's helpful for looking at a map but I strongly disagree that properties (presumably you mean hotels) always or even usually describe themselves as "in Southwark". Clearly Southwark is not generally a prestigious name and it's also not very precise so many hotels will choose to name themselves or describe their location with more precision or with a name perceived more positively. Not deceptive...just because naming is very loose and there are often a few different ways to refer to a location in central London.

Just a few examples below of hotels describing themselves with Bankside and London Bridge (not recommendations, just examples of naming). I believe all are generally in the area that the OP is referring to. And yes, some hotels do have Southwark in their names and location descriptions.

citizenM London Bankside hotel (incidentally probably one of the closest hotels to the Globe which the OP references as a preferred location)
Bankside Hotel, Autograph Collection
Hilton London Bankside
Mercure London Bridge

suec1 Jun 29th, 2019 11:52 AM

Thank you all for hotel suggestions and name / area clarifications! Going to check them out and hopefully make a good decision soon.

PalenQ Jun 29th, 2019 03:07 PM

What area is Southwark Cathedral in? Burough,. Southwerk, South Bank???

Pepper_von_snoot Jun 29th, 2019 06:56 PM

Bermondsey?

Bermondsey Square Hotel?

Thin🛷

walkinaround Jun 30th, 2019 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by Pepper_von_snoot (Post 16944724)
Bermondsey?

Bermondsey Square Hotel?

Thin🛷

Yes, and there are many, many other examples in addition to those already referenced. Even Bermondsey also as you point out. Although most other hotels around Bermondsey Square Hotel reference their location as 'London Bridge'. Some in this area (i.e. very close to Globe) use the location reference of Blackfriars which was not referenced before.

Who would have thought that it was controversial to say that hotels in this area identify or describe their location in many different ways, not just as Southwark (or Waterloo)?


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