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Londonlover Jun 8th, 2008 08:00 PM

London Ritz dress code
 
How strict is the dress code for tea at the Ritz London?

I've seen both gentlemen are "requested" and "required" to wear a jacket and tie.

If I'm wearing a long sleeve dress shirt and dark slacks, but no suit and no tie, will I be turned away?

janisj Jun 8th, 2008 08:02 PM

wear a sports coat - they have loaner ties.

janisj Jun 8th, 2008 08:03 PM

but really - how much space does a tie take??

Londonlover Jun 8th, 2008 08:23 PM

I really don't want to pack a sportscoat. Do they have loaner coats?


janisj Jun 8th, 2008 08:26 PM

In my way of thinking - If one wants to do something posh like tea at the Ritz, one takes the appropriate clothing. If one wants to dress casually (which is perfectly fine/understandable) you choose a different venue.

There are a hundred other places you could have a nice afternoon tea where you could wear absolutely anything.

Just my 2¢ . . . . .


jelane Jun 8th, 2008 08:46 PM

good said janisj, I just don't get these men not wanting to wear a jacket. What is the big deal with a jacket, my DH wears the same thing everyday, polo khakis and long sleeve shirts, I like seeing a change, don't most women and men want a bit of a change to go along with having something so different as tea at the Ritz....the second time this week I have said, just put on the jacket.....

nona1 Jun 8th, 2008 10:24 PM

They will lend you a tie (with a polite but definite sneer as you are now the equivalent of pond-life in their eyes - someone too stupid or too arrogant to follow the clear rules) but I'm not sure if they have loaner jackets. I doubt it very much. REad 'requested to' as polite Brit speak for 'ordered to'.

I saw a couple stopped there as the man wasn't wearing a tie and it was an embarrassing experience for them. They were taken aside(not at all discretely), and then he was given a tie and sent to a changing room (not allowed to put it on right there). The woman looked like she wanted to kill the man!

If you don't want to follow the dress code, go somewhere else, why do you think the rules apply to everyone else but you?

avalon Jun 8th, 2008 11:55 PM

I actually saw a couple stopped from enetering the hotel itself because they were dressed in jeans and wanting to go to the bar!

GSteed Jun 9th, 2008 01:19 AM

Just for fun...visit a used clothes shop...there are many...buy a coat/jacket! It will probably cost less than the tea...Don't pack the sports coat...wear it.

Cholmondley_Warner Jun 9th, 2008 03:25 AM

As said, an Oxfam shop will sell you a jacket for about £5 and a tie for a quid.

I've been refused entry for wearing trainers - so they are a bit strict.

Padraig Jun 9th, 2008 03:42 AM

If you are the sort of person who does not want to bring a jacket with you on your holiday (as I am) then you are the sort of person for whom the Ritz is not suitable.

There are plenty of venues suitable for informal people like us.

nona1 Jun 9th, 2008 04:17 AM

True - you pays your money you takes your choice. There are lots of other lovely places for tea but if you want the Ritz, you have to play by their rules.

Londonlover Jun 9th, 2008 08:03 PM

I guess I'm bringing a sportscoat then

LoveItaly Jun 9th, 2008 09:55 PM

Londonlover, you can wear a blazer onto the plane and take it off if you are to warm during the flight . A tie takes up absolutly no room in your suitcase. You can also use the blazer with casual pants and a casual shirt if and when it gets a bit chilly while you are on your trip. Best regards.

bozama Jun 9th, 2008 11:56 PM

I would consider it a waste of space to pack a bulky item of clothing like a sports jacket just to wear once for 2 hours. Unless of course you are attending a wedding.
I think buying one at Oxfam is a great idea. Only a few pounds and you can decide to keep it or redonate it afterwards.

flanneruk Jun 10th, 2008 01:51 AM

"If you are the sort of person who does not want to bring a jacket with you on your holiday (as I am) then you are the sort of person for whom the Ritz is not suitable."

Dangerously close to utter cobblers.

The Ritz is, by no stretch of anyone's imagination, posh.

It's a theme park for plebs who want to con themselves they're recreating a scene from a Merchant Ivory film. It's also home to some of our most grotesque exiled kleptocrats, Russian billionaires (if there's a difference between the two categories) and general lowlifes. Sort of place (and dress code) Mohammed al Fayed feels at home with.

Last time I got bullied into having tea there, they did in fact lend me a jacket - of such spectacular tackiness, Oxfam probably rejected it. Buy one from Oxfam - for about a tenth the cost of the tea - and you'll have done at least some good that day to make up for patronising the place

Padraig Jun 10th, 2008 02:16 AM

flanneruk wrote: "Dangerously close to utter cobblers.
The Ritz is, by no stretch of anyone's imagination, posh."

I don't disagree with your assessment of the Ritz and the people that might be found there, but that does not mean that what I said was any kind of close to cobblers.

Poshness does not impress me, and interests me only as a phenomenon.

The main difference between the unsavoury characters with new money and those who enjoy old money is simply a matter of when the dirty deeds were done that enriched people, and whether those now spending the money are those who arranged matters to enrich themselves or the descendants of such people.

When I was in London recently I had clothing with me that would have passed muster in the Ritz. It never crossed my mind to go there. Not my kind of thing. The word "authentic" springs to mind.

janisj Jun 10th, 2008 06:03 AM

Londonlover: Maybe an explanation of Oxfam would help a bit. They are charity shops that are all over and they sell donated items - sort of like a thrift shop. The idea of buying a jacket/tie at Oxfam is a great suggestion. It would only cost a few £ - probably less than dry cleaning your own Sports coat before/after your trip. There are shops in Covent Garden, in Goodge St, a couple near Victoria, just all over.

Then you can bring it back home - or donate it or give it away or anything.

ira Jun 10th, 2008 06:21 AM

Hi L,

>If I'm wearing a long sleeve dress shirt and dark slacks, but no suit and no tie, will I be turned away?<

Probably not, but I will make rude remarks about how the Ritz is letting all sorts of trash in if I see you there.

A sports jacket takes up no room in your luggage.

((I))

Londonlover Jun 10th, 2008 06:27 AM

Is Oxfam open on Sunday? I will be arriving Sunday morning, and the tea will be the following day.

Padraig Jun 10th, 2008 06:28 AM

ira wrote: "I will make rude remarks about how the Ritz is letting all sorts of trash in if I see you there."

Now, there's an incentive to dress down.

Mimar Jun 10th, 2008 06:48 AM

Ira, what do you mean a sports jacket takes up no room? It's a fairly bulky, heavy item, especially if it's just for a single occasion.

Cholmondley_Warner Jun 10th, 2008 07:00 AM

Is Oxfam open on Sunday? I will be arriving Sunday morning, and the tea will be the following day.>>>

Some are, some aren't.

BTW "oxfam shop" just means a charity shop selling second hand stuff. All charity shops are called Oxfam shops - no matter what the charity is.

Where are you staying?

bozama Jun 10th, 2008 07:08 AM

Ira, many of us travel light, you know , carry our own single small bag ourselves, and we stay serveral weeks or more at a time, a sports jacket does indeed consume way too much space in that sort of situation.
A sports coat is important if one is travelling for business I suppose, and as most business travellers don't hop public transport but can taxi here and there then they can pack larger bags .

Therese Jun 10th, 2008 07:12 AM

A sports jacket takes up no room in your luggage because you don't put it in your luggage, you carry it onto the plane folded over your arm, or wear it. You lay it in an overhead bin on top of bulkier items, so it stays nice and unwrinkled.

My husband never checks a bag and always (unless we're doing something very casual indeed, like camping) brings a sports jacket.

ira Jun 10th, 2008 07:16 AM

Hi M and B,

>Ira, what do you mean a sports jacket takes up no room? It's a fairly bulky, heavy item, especially if it's just for a single occasion.<

You don't pack it, you wear it.

Mine just did 3 weeks in Europe.

I even brought a tie to wear at Taillevent.

You aren't going to tell me that that takes up a lot of room? :)

However, I am beginning to understand you young whippersnappers - Barack Obama, soon to be the Dem candidate for POTUS, appears on TV without a tie and his shirt collar open.

I look forward to seeing torn jeans, tee shirts with vulgar remarks on them and bare feet when having afternoon tea at the Ritz.

((I))

noe847 Jun 10th, 2008 07:19 AM

I have spent plenty of time poking around in Oxfam shops on my travels in the UK - when I'm in the neighborhood and in the mood. I would not, however, want to be in the position of HAVING to find the Oxfam shop, get there, hope to find the acceptable jacket, etc., on my first day in London after (presumably) a long haul flight. My vote: wear the sports jacket on the plane, put the tie in the pocket, you are good to go.

Reisender Jun 10th, 2008 08:00 AM

37 quid a person for tea seems a bit steep (excuse the pun) to me...I think I will just wander over to the pub and have a pint!

nytraveler Jun 10th, 2008 04:12 PM

I agree -

if you want to go to the Ritz then bring the proper clothing. If you don;t want to bother with a jacket, have tea in one of a million other places.

I don;t get it when people think rules don;t apply to them - just because they find carrying a jacket (and what will you wear at night if it's chilly?) is SO much trouble.

When we go to europe the beau always brings a blazer that's good enough for most places - and also useful if it's a chilly night. (If it's a business trip, naturally he has proper suits and ties.)

Calamari Jun 10th, 2008 05:30 PM

Good to giggle again. Ira, Janis and especially Flanneruk! How about tea at the Savoy or the Dorchester instead?

tmc1289 Jun 10th, 2008 05:34 PM

what about women? i panned on wearing white ankle lengthed pants with matching blazer and a tiny heel sandal.?
now i am unsure about this?
thanks
tmc1289

Underhill Jun 10th, 2008 08:29 PM

Dress up the blazer with some jewelry and you should be just fine.

On the other hand, if you have a lightweight dress that's packable, that would also be nice.


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