Aduchamp1,

Were you at the London 2012 Olympics?

What events did you see or participate in? I won Gold in The Grammar 100m race :)

Aduchamp1,

Were you at the London 2012 Olympics?

What events did you see or participate in? I won Gold in The Grammar 100m race
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I thought you were disqualified because you forgot to take your steroids. (And you have a dangling preposition in one of your sentences. But that's where you're at.)

DMB, you are wasting your time and energy tangling with folks like Adu and Tower. They can and will run circles around you because they are that good, that knowledgeable and that experienced. I would love to read the rest of your trip report, but it's getting awfully tiresome reading you arguing with them.

cferrb,

As mentioned before I will continue to post my travel stories..

People like Adu and Tower don't concern me. As much as they claim to dislike my postings they sure spend a lot of time coming back to read what is posted.

They are only as good and knowledgeable and experienced as they think they are.

Their time would be better spent on more worthwhile endeavors like putting up mirrors or posting their own trip reports that we may all find pure and enjoyable.

Jack The Ripper

Emerging from the bowels of “The Tube” at Tower Hill, my visit to London hits a wall and takes a serious turn. At 6:40pm, I am on the trail of a serial killer in the Whitechapel district of London as a part of an organized walking tour.

It is the late 1800's and this impoverished area of London is under the grip of the worst and most brutal murderer the country has ever seen.

One by one we visit the various murder scenes, from a church where prostitutes circled to pick up customers, to a pub where the media named “Jack The Ripper” and most of his victims drank, we recall the events of those terrible nights.

In all there were believed to be five victims and numerous suspects including a member of the Royal Family. After what is believe to be the last victim of “Jack The Ripper” is killed, a local businessman receives a letter along with pieces of human tissues. In the letter the writer states that it is part of the victim's kidney which he ate and found to be very tasty.

Even today suspicion remains as to the true identity of “Jack The Ripper”. However, our investigation and sources tells us it was a Polish Jew that lived in Whitechapel. One Mr Aaron Kosminski who was committed to an insane asylum in 1891 where he died several days later.

For CSI and Crime Story buffs, a worthwhile tour for a 7 quid donation at the end if you are happy with the experience.


Video:http://youtu.be/WpVPBtDn2qw

What investigation did you do yourself to make you believe that the perpetrator of these hideous crimes was a Polish "Jew"? Why would you single out his religion as if it is of significant which when used in the above context make it sound very bad for people of the Jewish faith?

This is an anti-semitic posting. You haver done no independent research to substaniate this man's claims nor do you do not know this man.

You do not know who and when the grafitti on the wall was written. The words on the wall are not Yiddish or Polish, they were written by someone who was either illiterate or do not know English well. Maybe one of your ancestors.

And as one of the other posters pointed out that neighborhood had many Jewish residents and anti-semitic grafitti was common.

Your insistence on posting this again shows that you have nothing but malicious intent.

Aduschamp1 - I think we should give DMB a break. He recently was in SE Asia and while touring in BKK he was fed a lot lies which he initially believed. Some of the lies and misinformation I, and others, helped corrected but all of DMB's responses at first were not very pleasant. In time he will accept the truth IMO.

Copinesq,

What I wrote is information from recorded history and that was provided on the tour. This is information that can easily be independently verified.

Furthermore, as I wrote:

"Even today suspicion remains as to the true identity of “Jack The Ripper”.

This is no attempt to put down anyone or any religion. Crimes are committed by people of all ethnicity and religions and these actions in of themselves does not brand any particular group or individuals.

Copinesq,

What I wrote is information from recorded history and that was provided on the tour. This is information that can easily be independently verified.
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That is such BS and typical of people who hide their prejudice.

You are just repeating what you was told, but even though it is inflammatory, you did nothing to verify it.

Why do you videotape and present this one version of Jack The Ripper, which has been discredited, out of the scores of other theories?

Audchamp1,

I am again surprised why you continue to follow my mudane and useless posting.

You must really, really like me :)

Copinesq,

The only truth to be believed here, is that my postings are my travel experiences and no one is forced to read them or follow along.

All the critics of my postings can write their own postings for others to find pure and maybe enjoyable. Instead, they leech of other's posting to share their views of travel and the world.

I am glad to read their views and criticisms but I take them for what they are, just other opinions that are often different from my own.

Opinions that entertain and sometimes just make me LMAO :)

having read a number of books about it over the years, I'm surprised to read the suggestion that Jack was a polish jew, particularly as the perpetrator appeared to be anti-semitic in the graffiti he wrote.

there are of course many theories; the most common are that he was a prince, the royal doctor, or a freemason.

the unfortunate Mr. Kosminski is a new one on me.

BTW, DMBT, did the leader of your walk know that you were videoing him?

DMB,

I am sure that your blog, the one you advertise at the end of all your videos, does not attract that many followers hence you are posting them on a public forums. This is why, IMO, you are posting multiple threads just for one trip, see the discussion on your other thread "London Bridge..."

Searching the net I even find older blogs that you seem to have abandoned: http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/DMB-Traveler/

I sincerely hope that you will retract the "Jew" comment even though you were quoting other people.

Get back to the basic, your simpler reports have always entertain me and I look forward to more. But I do strongly request that you keep them in one thread per one trip so that I can follow along. :)

"particularly as the perpetrator appeared to be anti-semitic in the graffiti he wrote. "

I don't think they even know if the graffiti had anything to do with the murder or whether it was just coincidence. Whitechapel, as we know, had a large jewish population at the time and that graffiti could've been written by any idiot trying to stir up trouble. It's one explanation I have heard for why the police hastily covered it up - to avoid a riot.

Kate - I don't think that there was a terribly effective attempt to cover it up - locals all knew about the murders at the time and people have been discussing it ever since!

i think that the reason for a "cover up" if such there was, was to prevent panic at the thought that a serial killer was on the loose.

It might be best if Fodors "covered" this thread up as well - to avoid a riot!

annhig,

Of course, the tour leader knew I was video taping him. I use a Flip camcorder which is very hard to conceal when you are taking close up facial shots which if you watch the video you can see it includes plenty of them.

Yes, there are many theories concerning "Jack The Ripper". No doubt there were a lot of missteps in the investigation. On the tour as displayed on the video, two other main suspects were also discussed.

It is only the tour leader's conclusion along with some of the other top investigators in the case that Mr. K was the prime suspect. Others have drawn different conclusions for different reasons.

The truth maybe never know but I am convinced the spirit of "Jack The Ripper" still lives on in many unfortunate ways :(

Copinesq,

Again thanks for the critique and researching the internet for my other postings.

FYI, I post a blog because Fodor's is limiting in it's posting options.. no pictures, no video, which can tell the stories themselves. As you might or might not be aware there are many that post here that do the same thing.

This is a free public forum that is available to all for what ever purpose one might chose as long as the forum guidelines are followed.

Unfortunately, the spirit of this forum is often destroyed when comments on threads become personal which seems to happen often if one presents a view different than as one poster commented "The Fodor Purists".

I will continue my postings in the manner I see fit and readers are always free to not read them or follow along. If I stray from the forum guidelines I am sure the moderators will remove whatever comments or posting they deem inappropriate.

How me writing about my travel experiences turns into such a heated debate and firestorm for others is beyond me. I have my theories but nonetheless it is all entertaining.

Thanks for your input :)

BTW, I wikied Mr. Kosminski, and after reciting the evidence for and against, the article concludes that there seems to be no more evidence against him than against any of the other 100 or so suspects.

interestingly, he apparently lived in the area for 3 years after the last ripper murder, before he was incarcerated.

i wonder why he stopped. did your informant explain that?