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invt Mar 31st, 2002 06:33 AM

Learning Italian
 
Does someone know of any programs for learning to speak Italian (at home) that have been effective?

bella Mar 31st, 2002 06:48 AM

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/mo...1/pageone.html Can you let me know if it works!!

Barb Mar 31st, 2002 07:26 AM

I just returned last week from a 2 week trip to Italy, and I was very glad I had learned a little Italian. I used a wide range of materials for my studies, but the two things I recommend most are Pimsleur(various levels available) and a 2 tape video cassette set by The Standard Deviants. I started listening to tapes six months before my trip, and I found I could really make myself understood. I even successfully bought Eurostar tix in Florence for my trip to Venice, speaking only in Italian. Pronunciation is key; then master a few key verbs for requests: Where is, How much does it cost, I would like, I need, What time does, etc. Most of all, don't be afraid to try: while many, many people in Italy speak English, everyone that I spoke with using my limited knowledge of Italian was very gracious. I traveled with friends, and they felt my skills were a big help. If you log on to www.florence.net, you can sign up for a weekly Italian lesson by e-mail. Buona fortuna e buon viaggio!

bella Mar 31st, 2002 07:39 AM

The site I metioned previously is a full 2 month course to be done at your leisure and it's free. <BR> In solo due mese ti parle Italiano!

Ronda Mar 31st, 2002 08:03 AM

Barb, I couldn't find the link at the www.florence.net site for the Italian lessons. More info please.

bella Mar 31st, 2002 08:35 AM

Why does no one try the site I mentioned, it's how I learned Italian

Grasshopper Mar 31st, 2002 08:50 AM

In addition to Bella's suggestion, you might want to look at Barnes and Nobel University. They have a quickie course for Italain for Travelers.

dan Mar 31st, 2002 10:38 AM

Well, I thought I did pretty well in Italian, but I don't understand Bella's statement. What does "In solo due mese ti parle Italiano" mean, and what are these constructions? I think you're trying to say, "In only two months you speak Italian", but I think "ti" should be "tu" and "parle" should be "parli". If this is something other than second person singular subject pronoun and present indicative tense, then please enlighten me. Not trying to be sarcastic -- maybe you know something I don't, so please share.

Barb Mar 31st, 2002 11:04 AM

Sorry! The link is www.firenze.net

bella Mar 31st, 2002 11:08 AM

No1 ti, tu + lei all mean "you"<BR>no2 parle or parli e lo stesso<BR> che cazzo c'e sempre qual'cuno!!<BR> Non rompere mi palle!!

Ronda Mar 31st, 2002 12:02 PM

Bella: I looked at the academic.brooklyn site as well. It looks really helpful and I have bookmarked it.

ttt Mar 31st, 2002 12:28 PM

to the top

dean Mar 31st, 2002 12:36 PM

Many cities have an Italian Cultural Center. Try the phone book and see if they have one and see if they have classes. We are about to take our third class in Washington DC and have been very happy.

x Mar 31st, 2002 12:42 PM

I'm sure Bella's trying to be helpful, but unfortunately I don't think she's written a single thing in Italian correctly... not even her "name" (I'm assuming she means "ragazza?")

bella Mar 31st, 2002 12:46 PM

that better "testa di cazzo" I learned Italian in Sicily!!

Parlo un Po' Mar 31st, 2002 01:09 PM

Yes ti, tu and lei all mean "you" but that doesn't mean they're interchangeable. Tu is nominative (used for the subject), while ti is objective (used for the object). If you said "parli" or "tu parli" (emphatic) it would mean "you speak" or "you are speaking" but "ti parli" would be reflexive, "you speak to yourself" or "you're speaking to yourself."<BR><BR>And parli and parle aren't the same either. The second person indicative of parlare is parli. There is no word parle in standard Italian in any tense, voice, or mood.<BR><BR>I hate to be so pedantic, but it really istn't nice to call other people "testa di cazzo" when they're right.

Parlo un Po' Mar 31st, 2002 01:11 PM

Sorry, I know I made a typo for "isn't" but that doesn't mean I can't conjugate parlare.

carol Mar 31st, 2002 03:29 PM

Bella is NOT a very good advertisement for the course she's recommending. Her Italian is riddled with errors. And do not blame it on Sicily, by the way.


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