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After lunch, with our jet lag drowsiness deepened by the dreary weather, we drove back to the B&B to relax and chat with Roberta.
I had reserved ahead, by e-mail, at La Libera in Alba, so we set out around 6pm with directions to the parking lots most likely to have free spaces provided by Roberta. Parking the car in Alba was a snap, that night and each time we visited. There is both free parking (outlined in white) and paid parking (blue outlines; get a ticket at the nearby machine and put the white slip inside the car, on your dashboard). After 7:30pm, parking is free. We meandered around Alba a bit, but since this was a Monday, many shops were closed. At an open tabacci, I bought a bag of Barattii & Milano hard candies. 7:30 found us at La Libera, at Via Elvio Pertinace, #24. http://www.lalibera.com/ La Libera is a sleek, contemporary restaurant adorned with handsome food-centric photos. A bouquet of artfully scattered grissini on each ivory-linen-draped table hints at the contemporary twist that Chef Marco Forneis gives to traditional Piemontese cuisine. Those breaksticks were excellent and we agreed that the first test of an eating place in these parts should be the breadsticks! (Surprisingly, we were served obviously packaged grissini only once the entire week!) Cruda di fassone battuta al coltello, or raw veal cut by hand and dressed with olive oil, salt, pepper, and lemon, is a classic of Le Langhe. I was determined to try as many traditional dishes as possible during the week. I also wanted to try that other quintessential Langhe dish: vitello tonnato. Although the carne cruda and the vitello tonnato are listed as two separate dishes on the menu (10 euro each), the friendly server did not hesitate to offer to mix half orders of each dish as an antipasto for me. Vitello tonnato—delicate slices of rare poached veal sauced with a blend of tuna, anchovies, lemon, capers, mayonnaise, and olive oil may not sound particularly appealing. But this dish, which reflects the traditional link of Piedmont to the coast, is a marvel! The Slow Food guide calls La Libera’s vitello tonnato “very good.” I would call it great! Here is a recipe; it would make an elegant party dish: http://www.saveur.com/article/food/Vitello-Tonnato The menu ventures into other regional territory, including Emilia Romagna and Liguria. Tortellini in brodo has been one of my partner’s favorite dishes ever since he first samped it in Bologna a few years ago. So when he spotted Raviolini di Gallina in Brodo on the menu, he did not hesitate. He also wanted to try another pasta, the Lasagnetta Gratinata di Asparagi e Burrata, lasagna with asparagus and burrata. Both of these dishes were excellent. It was on this rainy April night in Alba that I actually met a dish I did not like: The carne cruda. I tried several mouthfuls and just could not get past the raw meat texture. Noticing that I left more than half of the (half) portion on my plate, the server asked if I would like to try another dish before my secondi. I, too, opted for the excellent raviolini in brodo. After reading a recent New York Times article about the rising popularity of goat, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/dining/01goat.html and sampling it once at an Italian restaurant here in New York, I was eager to try it again and so was elated to find Capretto Nostrano Arrostito al Forno con Primi Asparagi on the menu (roast local goat with the very first asparagus of the season). What a revelation! I loved the flavor of the roasted meat; more subtle than lamb with a wonderful delicate flavor. Excellent!! We passed on dessert, but were treated to a complimentary plate of lovely cookies with coffee. With the meal we drank this bottle of Dolcetto Diano D’Alba 2007 from Bricco Maiolica (11 euro) http://www.briccomaiolica.it/english/dolcetto.htm With water and wine, the bill totalled 65 euro. Highly recommended! |
EKS, thank you, thank you, thank you for this report. I am having severe Italy withdrawals (I was there exactly a year ago).
I am really enjoying this report. Johanna |
Is goat a relatively common menu item in Piemonte? It's actually my favorite meat and I order it in Spain and Mexico (I've not been to other Latin American countries where I'd imagine it's similarly available) almost every chance I get. If I can get goat in Piemonte, I'll be even more excited to be there. Minimally, I know I can get it in La Libera--and I shall. Thanks. What else shall I eat? Tell me. Tell me.
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I agree that there are so many options on where to stay. Although, we were surprised how little information exists in guide books on this area of Italy. So I'm printing out everything from the internet which is where I do most of my research anyway. Thank you for the recommendation of the agriturismo of the Castello di Verduno.
We don't mind driving at night as long as we understand the directions, plus our car will have a GPS. We are starting in Munich and driving through Alsace wine region in France before entering Northern Italy and back up through Switzerland and Austria. I'm a little confused on the best market day as it seems different in each village. I'm arranging the schedule to arrive early on a Saturday. Did you go to any? Also, do you think we can just do a day trip to Turin or do we need to spend the night? Thank you, Nicci |
Yes, Nicci, let's find out about market days. Eks, hope you went to many and know where we can find the straight scoop on all of them. It would be nice to have something like the Patricia Wells France book that tells market days even for the tiniest towns. I try to arrange sightseeing days to maximize markets. And I too am interested in the amount of time recommended for Turin.
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Just briefly: Julie, yes, there is goat on quite a few menus. It was on the menu at Osteria del Vignaiolo and I think also at Trattoria della Posta. Looking back at this report I am astonished at the few dishes that I actually sampled. I will try to find out more about goat in Piemonte.
Nicci: If you do not care much about museums (Egyptian Museum, Cinema Museum, etc) you could do Turin as a day trip. But would you be driving? I am not sure I would want to drive there and back in one day with the traffic of weekdays. But as you now, we are squeamish drivers and I get a little anxious as navigator. It is certainly close enough in miles. I asked a local person if he took the train when he visited Turin and he chortled and exclaimed something like "ha ha, the trains--of course I don't take those!" So that tells you something! There is a large market in Alba on Saturday and there are also smaller markets in Alba every OTHER day of the week; we visited the Thursday market (actually fairly large even during this season) so following that reasoning, there would be Tuesday market as well. (This sounds confusing but it is how Roberta described it to me..I will report back on that and on other markets if I can find more information. We were there in a season when there was not much local produce in the markets (most came from further south) so I was not as dogged as usual in finding out about them) Julie we did not go to Pollenzo (I know: Shocking to miss the SlowFood capital) I had looked at Corte Gondina on TA before we decided upon La Favorita. It has a pool, which would be fabulous in hot weather. The other one that looks great (we saw the exterior) is in the gorgeous town of Cherasco: http://www.cardinalmazzarino.com/ More soon...I have to go to my own market!! |
You can look up market days for the tiniest towns here:
http://www.regione.piemonte.it/cgi-b...ti/dynIndex.pl It's worth noting that in most places non-food (i.e., junk) stalls outnumber food stalls. Also, many vendors go from market to market, so it hardly seems worth one's while to go to more than one. |
Zerlina that is a good point. At the Alba Thursday market there were, indeed, a lot of vendors selling those big tan pointy men's shoes and cheap women's underwear. Also, purple is BIG this year, apparently, because everyone--from cheap market stalls to upscale Turin shops--had light purple clothes in the window. But there were many food vendors, including quite a few of those mobile carts that roam from market to market. There was even one with Calabrese products--dried peppers, cheeses, salumi, etc. But Alba is so filled with food shops that the market did not exert the draw for me that it would have in a different season.
Thanks for that link! Julie: I took a look at the menu of Trattoria della Posta; it does not include a goat dish. But I did see it at least a few times at other places. Lamb and rabbit, and of course, beef, and pork, were also popular secondi, with duck, pigeon and goose a bit less common (results are from the limited ekscrunchy sampling). Also, please remember that "coscia" means leg; you will see this often on menus. I don't know where I've been all these years on the goat front. I think my initial hesitancy resulted from eating inferior, gristly goat meat in Mexico. In New York, I had goat at L'Impero (now Convivio) in a braise. But it was not until having the roast goat at La Libera that I became a convert! The roast meats are certainly one of the secondi to focus on in this region. I am rethinking my comment on the trains, above. While the local person may have disparaged the train system, much as I might scoff at the Long Island Railroad service, my guess is that there are decent enough train services to Turin. The Turin station is conveniently located within walking distance of the historic center. By train I think Turin would be a very easy day trip. |
We will drive to Turin rather than a train…perhaps on the way to our next destination, Verona.
I am mostly interested in food markets and visiting one or two is fine. Trying to justify the rush to get there early on Saturday from Como. We might want to take a cooking class, if we have time. Most that we have taken in other countries usually start with a trip to the local market. Did you run across any worth noting? We love cheese and we wondering if there's a cheese tasting route similar to the wines. I would like to visit the farms and possibly see the process. |
Nicci: That sounds like an excellent plan. Why don't you post your itinerary so I can understand exactly what the route will be.
One of the largest food markets in Italy is Turin's Porta Palazzo, open until 1pm every day and later on Saturday. Closed Sundays. Just north of the center; you can walk easily. Since we were in Turin on 25 April, a major Italian holiday, the market was closed. But just as good, if not better, is Eatialy, the Slow-Food "supermarket/enoteca" in the Lingotto area, south of the historic district. If you are interested in food you cannot visit Turin without stopping here. I will write the details in my report, but you do not need them--you just need to GO! Monday is closing day: http://www.eatalytorino.it/eatalytor...come_eng.lasso Now, are you asking about a class in Turin or in the Piedmont region? I did not take one but maybe we can find some names, if you think you will have time. |
ps. I just realized: Eatialy offers cooking classes (see the website) but they are in Italian. And I think you will want classes in English, right?
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You are too kind. I can do a search for English speaking cooking classes around Alba or Asti. I just thought that you might have come across a recommendation while on your recent visit.
This trip has been somewhat last minute and I don't have a wine route planned yet. We bought our ridiculously cheap air tickets about a month ago for $382rt non-stop both ways from Atlanta(our home) to Munich. We travel internationally once or twice a year and have been avoiding Europe because of the weak dollar. Although, we have wanted to get back to Italy since our marriage in Florence in 2001 followed by honeymoon in Cambodia and Thailand. Anyway, until a couple of days ago, we have been in the process of negotiating the sale of our home and house hunting since we close 4 days after returning from this trip. Luckily we are not moving for 4 weeks after closing. With one week until departure, I am in cram mode trying to secure plans. I greatly appreciate all of your comments and suggestions. You have been most helpful. |
Nicci: Roberta at Villa Favorita gives cooking classes. She speaks perfect English and I can attest to the fact that she knows how to cook! You could drop her an e-mail and see if you can arrage a market visit and a class. Her kitchen is large and well set up for classes.
One well-respected, more formal, cooking school in the region is that of Roberto Boggio in Revigliasco in the province of Asti. This information comes from my Fred Plotkin Italy guide; you could e-mail for information: http://www.scuoladicucina.it/ But since you really want a cooking lesson, not formal classes, my guess is that Sant Eufemia (which looks great, by the way) could arrange this for you. In a region like this, great cooks seem to be thick on the ground, so to speak! See if you can set up a market visit and a class. |
I also meant to post this restaurant/hotel option, for Jule V:
http://www.felicin.it/pagine/eng/albergo.lasso |
Eks, thanks for the restaurant rec. I tripped on the place when looking at lodging and thought it looked good. If you say so, it must be so. It goes on the list. Thanks.
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Julie: I did not eat there, but I did note it on my "possibles" list. It does look good. But then, so do so many places in this area! It is almost impossible to decide!
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After dinner, we wandered around Alba for quite a while searching for our car; we had forgotten the location of the parking lot! Finally, after much drenched searching, we stumbled upon it and made our way back to Villa Favorita; the drive takes about 5 minutes.
The next morning we awoke to more rain! Very dreary! Because of the poor weather, we really did not explore nearly as much as is our custom. Normally we (or rather, I) would be up at 7am, eager to begin the day’s wandering. But with the rain, we gave into the temptation to sleep late and have a leisurely breakfast and some computer time (one person wanted to check baseball scores while another, your faithful correspondent, was busily rifling through on-line menus of restaurants in Turin!). There is a free computer with high-speed internet in the front room, and this came in very handy during our visit. After another sumptuous breakfast, highlighted by fresh Roero strawberries and cream, we finally set off for Cherasco, about a 40 minute drive from the villa. I loved Cherasco! Dating in 1243, this walled fortress town on a high elevation at the confluence of two rivers, founded by the city of Alba as a defensive position against rival Asti, is built on a grid and surrounded by star-shaped ramparts. The perpendicular streets are lined with gorgeous medieval and Baroque palaces and churches. Cherasco is Italy’s snail capital and home to an institute of snail culture! An elaborate 17th Century triumphal arch guards one end of the town, a tribute built by a citizen grateful for remaining unscathed during the plague of 1630. (Brought to Venice by ships, this scourge reportedly decimated up to 70% of the population of present-day Northern Italy.) You can see photos of this beautiful town, and the arch, on the website of the commune: http://www.comune.cherasco.cn.it/ita/index.asp The 16th Century monastery in town is now being restored and is scheduled to open as a hotel sometime this year, according to their website: http://www.piedmontplaces.com/hotel/index.html You can see an old engraving showing the unusual star shape of the bastions and the grid plan here: http://www.piedmontplaces.com/attractions/index.html After a wander through the streets and some menu-reading (snails are much in evidence and there are several well-reviewed restaurants) and browsing in a few food shops, where the celebrated Baci di Cherasco, Cherasco chocolate kisses were much in evidence, we set off again, bound for our long-awaited lunch at Trattoria della Posta, in Monforte d’Alba |
OMG. I can't believe that I've never tumbled to what a fantastic foodie place Piemonte is. All those wines,
Eataly, SlowFood movement headquarters, and now Snails and Baci chocolates. I must have been under a rock. I remember a friend suggesting we go there and all I could say was, I've been to Aoste and didn't get very excited about it. Thanks so much for such interesting, informative "stuff." Now I'll quit gushing and just read as you keep posting. Thanks. |
TRATTORIA DELLA POSTA, Monforte d’Alba (a few km outside the town, in the countryside). Closed Thursday, and Friday lunch).
We arrived at Trattoria della Posta with high expectations, based on the multitude of reviews I had read during my research. We were not disappointed. This place fulfills every element that we could want in a restaurant—great local fare, warm service, lovely surroundings, no pretension of stuffiness. And prices that are most reasonable. I only wish that we had had time for a second meal here; we certainly would have returned but their scheduled closing days did not allow this. The restaurant occupies the ground floor of a country house; a few clues told us that the owners may live upstairs. There are at least three dining rooms, including the two front rooms which I think are the nicest—a couple of window tables offer a fine view. Furnished with antiques and an extensive library of wine- and food-related books, the restaurant is elegant but not at all ostentatious. Tables are large and there is ample space between them. The pace was only about half filled on the afternoon we were there. (But after lunch, the German couple at the next table proceeded to confer with the owner about a group dinner planned for late September; reservations are a must in high season) http://www.trattoriadellaposta.it/en...rroundings.htm Considering how much we had looked forward to our lunch here, we had a rather small meal: After placing our orders, we received complimentary crudi (raw fish) of swordfish carpaccio, lightly dressed with a lemony vinaigrette. For my antipasti, I chose Bagna Cauda., (15 euro) This was undoubtedly not the most exciting choice, but I was determined to sample as many Piemontese classics as I could, and there is probably no dish more representative of the cuisine than this preparation of raw vegetables accompanied by a warm, anchovy-laced dip (bagna cauda, or warm bath), a relative of the Provencal achoiade that reflects the historical links betweenPiedmont and France. Had I thought out my selection in a bit more depth, I would have realized that this dish would have been better ordered when the classic vegetables, especially the famous peperone (red peppers of Asti and Cuneo) and cardi gobbo (“hunchback” cardoons) of Nizza Monferrato, were in season. But although bagna cauda is a trademark dish of the region, it is not frequently found on restaurant menus, being more of an end-of-harvest extravaganza prepared at home. Nevertheless, it was delicious—a plate of red peppers, fennel, and endive arrayed the deep cup of bagna cauda. Although the vegetables were not in their prime, I could not resist dipping into the anchovy-and-garlic-laced “bath.” My partner, on this rainy day, chose the vegetable soup, a chunky puree presented in a handsome copper pot-- excellent. He proceeded to the agnolotti del plin, one of the two quintessential Piemontese pasta preparations—delicate “pinched” ravioli (usually made with rabbit) in a light butter sauce. Fabulous! I skipped a primo and followed the bagna cauda with one of the house specialties: Il Cosciotto d’Oca Ripieno del suo Fegato Grasso (25 euro) —roasted goose leg stuffed with its own liver. I had never tried goose before, but I will certainly try it again. Perfectly cooked. Delicious. For dessert: A molten chocolate cake with orange syrup (8 euro) Heavenly. With water and one glass of wine, the bill came to 74 euro. Clearly, this restaurant is an essential stop. In good weather, tables on the terrace offer a stupendous vineyard view. |
Ahhhhhh I realize ekscrunchy that you are Erica on Chowhound! So here we have a much more detailed report, thank you :) I am drooling with anticipation now! We leave in two days for our Piedmont trip. We have Trattoria della Posta already booked.
I am glad that Roberta at Villa la Favorita was so helpful to you, we also enjoyed our stay there very much on our last Piedmont trip. I am also looking forward to bringing home lots of goodies from the markets, hazelnuts are a great idea! We are indeed bringing an extra suitcase for bringing wine home but I hope to bring home more wine than just one bottle! Ok, back to read this again with more attention to detail... |
jczinn, where have you chosen to stay on your upcoming trip?
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Julie, we are actually staying closer to Acqui Terme, in a small town called Olmo Gentile, five nights at a B&B that looks lovely: Borgo Vallone (http://www.borgovallone.com) We had originally planned/hoped to stay at Baur B&B in Acqui Terme, but unfortunately it is currently closed while they are renovating; Diana of Baur B&B recommended Borgo Vallone and I totally trust her recommendation. We are staying in this area because I wanted to explore some new places and visit the coast one day (Camogli, Portofino.) But we will spend a day or two around Alba and the Barolo towns, for sure.
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JC: I will look forward to your report! That area should be a super base, since you can also venture to the coast.. If we had had better weather, we would have done a day trip to the coast near Savona which is only about an hour-plus or so from Alba.
There is just so much to explore around there that I feel as if we barely scratched the surface in 7 days. Here is a bit more: After lunch, we drove through the vineyard-covered hills to the tiny hamlet of San Rocco Seno d’Elvio, and from there, up the hillside to Podere Colla, the domain of Tino Colla and his niece, Federica. I cannot recommend this winery enough; Tino Colla is a charming man with deep roots in the Langhe and a passionate interest not only in the wines, but in the land that produce them. We had a walk through the vineyards, followed by a memorable tasting of Dolcetto, Barbaresco, Barolo, nebbiolo and pinot noir blends, and even the DOC Riesling that Sr Colla grows on Bricco del Drago, one of the three estates under the Colla name. Another highlight was Bonme, a small production wine imbued with absinthe. The setting of the tasting was equally fascinating because the tasting venue also serves as a mini-museum of old agricultural and wine-making tools and there is a story attached to each implement. For more information, here is their website. I would recommend a visit only for those with serious intent; as at most Piemont wineries, tours and tastings are conducted by the winemakers themselves. http://www.podericolla.it/default.htm |
Hi Ekscrunchy, so glad after all your reviews on Italy that you spend some time in Piedmont and a great write up, even if we are disapointed that you didn't stay with us!! BTW not to beat our drum too loudly, but we do informal cooking classes too, for thos ewho asked on this thread. Happy to find Piedmont's famous wine and food country so well represented.
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Tim, that is very sweet! If we had had more time I would have at least wanted to have a visit with you! I hope you are enjoying this report, and are not finding too many errors!
We really enjoyed our time in Piemonte and I look forward to visiting the Asti area sometime in the future! I want to thank you again for the tremendous help you have provided, both to me, and to many other Piemonte-bound travelers on this forum! For newcomers here: Tim's wife is reportedly a fabulous cook, so I would recommnd investigating the cooking classes (and the lodgings) offered at his very-well-reviewed agriturismo, Villa Sampaguita: http://www.villasampaguita.com/Live/home.cfm |
and thank you for your sweet words about us too. This year there have been very few posts on this forum about things to do with Piedmont and so your well written and detailed review is wonderful to remind readers of what us locals consider Italy's best food and wine area (there's a challenge)and your restaurant reviews are worthy of E-Gullet's forums:
http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?...3&showforum=39 I think you must have been here in April, which was very wet this year, almost every weekend rained, more then just April showers, but just when May came along the weather has changed and we are having clear blue skies and sunny weather with wonderful mountain view panorama's, I have posted some of our Facebook page at: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...a/196228155536 Your restaurant guides are spot on, the Osterie Vignaiolo is one of our all time favourites, the Trattorie della Posta always gets good reviews, although we have yet to eat there. La Libera sometimes gets mixed reviews from our guests and Profumo di Vino is new too us, we must try it, although ist so hard in Piedmont as there are so many good restaurants, in Treiso, as well as La Ciau del Tornavento people give rave reviews to Osteria dell Unione as well as Risorgimento, and head futher on the road to Barbaresco and you run into Vechio Tre Stelle, Antina, Rabaja and Antica Torre, to name a few. (BTW this May, every Friday you can experience Barbaresco a Tavola, when 12 local restaurants included all the above named are offering more then 20 types of Barbaresco 2006's). My comment on your review is that its too bad you had so little time in the region, there is so much to see and do, as well as eating and wine tasting. For those who don't know the area, we call the central Piedmont wine hills "the zone", not just the Langhe, but also the Monferatto South from Asti to Acqui Terme and centred on Nizza Monferrato, the Monferrato North which includes Cocconato and Moncalvo as far as Casale Monferrato, and the Roero, on the West side of the Tanaro river between Asti and Alba, centred on Canale. The Langhe is famous and trendy because of Barolo and Barbaresco, however the whole "zone" features countless little mom and pop osterie and trattorie as well as michelin-starred restaurants, innummerable wineries and loads of charming hill top towns and castles, almost any weekend there is a festival somewhere. And lets not talk about the famous white truffles from the "zone". When you say visit the Asti area, this is actually a misnomer, Asti is just up the road from Alba (20 minutes) and the centre of the "zone" as well as a quick hop to Turin, and the best placed town for visiting the whole area. Alba and surrounding towns(and hats off to Roberta for her wonderful hospitality at Villa Favourita)would be best if you only wanted to focus on the Barolo and Barbaresco areas, likewise the other towns mentioned for their areas. but wherever you stay in Piedmont, we hope that our magic rubs off on you. And you were in Cherasco and didn't stop off at Bra to visit the temple of Slow Food Boccondivino - shame!! But as I said too much to see and do. Last comment is that you will find Bagna Cauda served as an antipasto, howeveras a main dish is really a late fall and winter dish in Piedmont,and it really is a family thing where everyone sits around the table and dips into the bowl as you mention. Oh and you didn't get to try any fresh black truffles? We do have these in Piedmont too, just coming into season. Enough, I could go on and on. Ciao Tim |
eks and others interested in wine --
I did contact Gallo Winery in La Morra after seeing your note above regarding the possiblility of shipping. The answer that I got back was not what I was hoping to hear! Basically shipping to a private home in the US is a no go. If you take a chance and mark the box as being something else other than wine, you may get lucky. But if the box is opened for inspection, the wine will be confiscated. I think I would literally cry if a case of Barolo and Barbaresco was confiscated! Sampaguita, since you live there and have a great deal of knowledge, do you have any suggestions on this topic? Great info on the restaurants! Thanks for the preview! I have also now added Cherasco to my list of must-sees. FYI, we arranged to have a cooking class while at La Favorita. We will be cooking a three course meal with Rita, and have requested a lesson in making the agnolotti dal plin. Ciao! |
Thanks, Tim, for your comments and compliments. Stay tuned because I have more, which I will get to soon. We were there the third week in April and the weather was indeed, pretty bad, not only in Piedmont but throughout much of Italy. So it was impossible for us to escape the rain, even by driving to another region. We did have a couple of nice days at midweek, however.
Although we had a full week between Alba and Turin we did not even get to scratch the surface of the region and hope to return someday. Regarding bagna cauda: The Provencal dish related to bagna cauda is anchoiade; in my haste, I forgot the"n." Drbb: I am very impressed by your organization. But this is bad news, indeed, about the wine. I suppose that everyone here who mentions shipping wine has declared it as olive oil. I know in New York State we have the ridiculous three-tier system, but I did not know that all states had these arcane laws. Well, they need to get their tax money, right!? What state do you live in? I used to bring lots of wine home, but we can get so much here that I just do not bother much anymore. I certainly understand that you would not want to take the chance of having the wine confiscated. What about bringing one of those special wine-packs designed for airline travel? Or bring two of them! |
"Regarding bagna cauda: The Provencal dish related to bagna cauda is anchoiade"
I beg to differ. Bagna Cauda is also a Provençal dish (warm sauce) and anchoiade is always cold. |
Thank you, PV. I do think they are related, however, even if one is served warm and the other cold. There are quite a few food links to other areas, including the many obvious ones to Liguria.
Regarding the use of anchovies, one theory is that since there is comparatively little wine grown in Liguria, the Ligurians would travel over the mountains to Piemonte with casks of anchovies. They would empty these casks and fill them with Piemontese wine to take back to the coast. This would have given an unusual flavor to the wine. I will try to get back to this later today. |
Regarding bringing/shipping wine home, we used to bring home up to 16 bottles in luggage and carry on--that was before the new carry-on regulations, of course, and before the fall of the dollar! Now, we concentrate on bringing home only what is either unavailable here (small producers, or older vintages of big producers) or something that will hold a special memory (say of a producer we visited). As eks says, just about everything is now available here, and at pretty good prices if you look at sales at a place like Zachy's in Westchester, NY (where we buy most of our higher-priced bottles.) We bring along these great inflatable wine bottle packers by 3M (no longer made, as far as I know, but we bought them years ago and reuse them). And pack one small bag inside a larger one so that on the way home, we have one extra bag for wine and oil. Hopefully we'll bring home about 8 bottles this trip.
We leave today, whoo-hoo! Hope that summer weather Tim is talking about holds. Thanks EKS for the great reviews. |
Dear eks - We live in Louisiana , and yes the laws are quite archaic. There is much protectionism in regard to beer, wine and liquor distributors in this state. My husband and I were just introduced to a Baton Rouge couple who actually produce some wine in the Piemonte under their own label and import it, so I'm hopeful that maybe I can get some help there.
We have brought back as many as 12 bottles before the carry on restrictions, and as many as 8 in just checked luggage. We do buy wines that are either unavailable to us or that are memorable. In Baton Rouge, fewer wines are available to us of course than in a place like NYC. We have bought from Zachy's, Sherry Lehmann, etc., but it's always fun to have bottles from your trip. jkczinn- have a great trip and I will also look forward to your trip report!! |
"Regarding bagna cauda: The Provencal dish related to bagna cauda is anchoiade; " Since Piedmont and Provence were all part of the Kingdom of Savoy before the risorgimento (reunion of Italy) there are many cultural, food and language simularities on both side of the Cottine Alps.
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eks,
An EATALY was slated to open in Manhattan last year. Do you know if it ever did? You mentioned overhearing German tourists making future group reservations. One of my impressions of my time in Piemonte was that a lot of the menus and tourist infrastructure (big breakfasts, roasted meats, etc) was oriented toward German tourism. Did you have the same impression? For future visitors to Trattoria della Posta, the panna cotta there is the best I've ever tasted in Italy. |
regarding anchovies in Piemonte:
The story I have heard is that salt was so precious, and such a valuable and heavily regulated item of trade, that it was smuggled into Piemonte from Liguria under layers of anchovies. It was in this fashion that anchovies became introduced into Piemontese cuisine. Whether the empty barrels were filled with wine before returning to Liguria, I don't know. But the motivating focus of interest was Ligurian salt, not Piemontese wine. |
Zeppole: Yes, I heard something along those lines, too. But the Piemontese winemaker I spoke to is convinced that is was their wine that was the goal! Your version sounds more plausible.
I have to look into this because the reasons that regional preferences developed as they did is an interest of mine. Yes, we are supposed to have an Eataly in midtown, but it has not opened and I have read nothing in the past few months. But I am not so excited about it because I fear it would be just another gourmet store with sky-high prices and restaurants. Well, we will see and you can be sure I will report about it if it does open! I did not see any evidence of catering towards the German tourists. But we only stayed in 3 places; a look at the guest book at La Favorita revealed a mix of nationalities, many from English-speaking countries but also Europeans and a few Asians. But no Germans that I can recall. I would say that most of the (very few) foreign tourists we saw were French or German. Probably some of these were Swiss, however. Lots of roasted meat as secondi, but I don't think that is what you mean. But I have no doubt that in tourist season the area receives many German visitors. But surprisingly, most restaurants did not have translated menus; a few did have the English translation written on the main menu, but most did not. The guy at della Posta was involved in such a long conversation with the owner; he was at the next table so we could not help but overhear. He was planning a dinner for a large group (of Germans) and the debate went back and forth about which wines to serve, and how much he was going to pay per person. I thought he might be a tour operator. In the end, they were going to pay 55 euro per person, with wines and a set menu! I am sure the truffles were not included for that price! I did not have the panna cotta there, but I did have one of the reputed best panna cotta (panna cotti??) in Torino. I will report on that soon. It is a busy week so I apologize for taking so long.. |
I asked an Italian friend and basically there is no special Italian word for amuse bouche in the concept of a complimentary nibble that precedes the first course. They would still be antipasti according to her. Of course the drink that precedes the meal is an aperitivo, and perhaps that term has been extended to the nibbles that may go with it - ??
Gourmandise served with coffee are called dolcetti in some places, she says. ekscrunchy, where are you??!! I need my Piemonte fix! |
Drbb: I will write more as soon as I can; I am a little busy until tomorrow night. I am so glad you are enjoying the report--I love to "talk" travel!!
Thanks for the info on the amuse. I remember hearing at least two servers use a word like "appetiti." Maybe that is Piemontese slang. You will have to do the on-site research! More soon!! |
And here are a few interesting websites devoted mostly, or entirely, to Italian wine; the first is in English and the last two, in Italian:
http://vinowire.simplicissimus.it/ http://www.vinodautore.com/regioni/piedmont-12.aspx http://www.lavinium.com/ The next day, Wednesday, the weather began to clear. We thought of taking a ride to the coast but decided, in the end, to go only halfway, to the designer outlets just over the Ligurian border in Serravale Scrivia. I had had a taste of these huge outlet malls last fall when I had a highly successful shopping expedition from Lake Como to the outlets in Mendrisio, Switzerland (see my Liguria/Lake Como trip report for details) and wanted to investigate this popular venue which draws shoppers from Milan, Turin and Genoa. The Via Michelin directions were straightforward. Except that I managed to direct my partner to take the wrong highway to Genoa, so we lost a bit of time after making a wrong turn near Alessandria. The drive should take just a few minutes over an hour and the quickest way involves all highway driving, with a good bit of truck traffic. The roads in this area are so well-marked, however, that driving is quite easy and it would be virtually impossible to get truly lost on major roads (Please disregard previous comment about taking a wrong turn!) About 70 minutes after leaving La Favorita, we exited the A7 and, a few minutes later, following the signs to “Novi Ligure,” we parked in the immense and mostly empty lot and set out to do some bargain shopping. http://www.mcarthurglen.it/serravall...me.php?lang=en Serravale Scrivia’s faux Ligurian village, with mostly upscale shops hiding behind pastel painted facades and clusters of buildings separated by flowering walkways, is one of the most physical attractive malls I’ve seen. (I admit that my experience is rather limited, however). We had the place virtually to ourelves on this Wednesday April morning. Most, if not all, (there was no Todd or Hogan, for example) of the usual suspects were represented: Loro Piana, Gucci, La Perla, Malo, Prada, D&G, and two of my favorites: Bric’s (excellent buys on luggage and handbags) http://www.brics.it/ and McKenzy (which I had discovered in Medrisio; excellent buys on cashmere and cotton knit sweaters); http://www.mckenzy.it/ However, with the sun now shining for the first time since our arrival 4 days before, I could not work up all that much enthusiasm for the diligence required for outlet shopping. My partner enjoyed himself wandering through several sporting goods shops and found one offering a buy-one-get-one-free deal on leather sneakers (made not in Italy but in Vietnam, however). That was the extent of HIS shopping for the week. Due to the euro-dollar conversion rate, the prices were quite a bit higher here than they had been in Switzerland a few months ago so I could not get too invested in the prospect of bargain hunting. MAny shops, however, were offering sales and discounts on top of the usual outlet discounts. Less than 90 minutes after we arrived, we were on our way back to Alba, with two boxes of Reebok men’s sneakers (total cost: 29 euro) in the trunk. Although we took the highway back to Alba, there is another route that would allow a stopover in Acqui Terme; on retrospect, perhaps we should have explored that option. As embarrassed as I am about revealing that we spent half a day at an outlet mall, I am a thousand times as embarrassed about the blunder I made the following day! More soon, including dinner at an agriturismo in Verduno! |
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