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wordsmith1 Aug 13th, 2018 12:43 PM

Le Havre, France
 
We are stopping for a day from a cruise--anything special in Le Havre....shopping, sights?

kerouac Aug 13th, 2018 09:43 PM

Here are a few ideas: Le Havre - UNESCO World Heritage site | Any Port in a Storm

bilboburgler Aug 13th, 2018 11:08 PM

I saw all that concrete 45 years ago as a kid, now it looks even worse ;-) The bombing and fighting was terrible but what the planners did....

kerouac Aug 14th, 2018 01:21 AM

Well, it is now considered to be an architectural marvel.

bilboburgler Aug 14th, 2018 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by kerouac (Post 16777749)
Well, it is now considered to be an architectural marvel.

Well London's south bank centre carries the same "term" and it looks the same, ugly and really interesting for students of architecture :-) all I know is those winds blow down those long covered walkways like the devil. See also the architectural marvel that is Essex University.

JulieVikmanis Aug 14th, 2018 09:48 AM

I'd get a taxi and go to Honfleur 25 km, 34 min away. I find Honfleur to be one of the most beautiful little towns in Europe. Apparently a taxi is the only option if you arrive on Sunday, but if you have a bit of time and arrive any other day you can get to the Gare Routiere in Le Havre from your ship and then take a bus to Honfleur but you will want to check the schedule carefully, it isn't very frequent. I hope you can get there on a Saturday--their market day which makes the town even cuter and more fun. Frankly I advise people who are docked in Le Havre for a day on a cruise which then buses them to Paris, to skip the deadly Paris bus trip and go to Honfleur instead. Can do justice to Honfleur in a day (though I have stayed for for 3 or 4 several times and never get bored) but certainly not to Paris, especially when you wind up sacrificing 4 or more hours to the bus ride to get there--and then stay on a bus to drive around it. Sad.

StCirq Aug 14th, 2018 10:07 AM

I would hightail it to Honfleur also.

Envierges Aug 14th, 2018 10:48 AM

Agree with the Honfleur idea. However, if you're "stuck" in Le Havre the city, to me, was interesting architecturally and the art museum is a jewel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum...Malraux_-_MuMa

PalenQ Aug 14th, 2018 11:43 AM

Does cruise offer any extra excursions - Le Havre for a whole day? Honfleur and back yeah.

kerouac Aug 14th, 2018 01:12 PM

Honfleur is nice, but it probably wouldn't make my top ten list of coastal towns to visit. I have been there both in the nice season and also in January 2017 when it was frozen solid.

Honfleur | Any Port in a Storm

JulieVikmanis Aug 15th, 2018 03:03 AM

kerouac, thanks for the link to your wonderful post on Honfleur. I'm starting a new post to ask you to name your top ten list of coastal towns to visit. Promise I'll follow your advice. You've not misled us.

wordsmith1 Aug 16th, 2018 04:08 AM

Thanks for your info---may just do a short walk around

LancasterLad Aug 16th, 2018 06:56 AM

Honfleur.....but only because it's the best option in the area.

I did the LeHavre - Portsmouth P&O return crossing 49 times when I worked in Paris. On our final sailing from Le Havre my wife stood on the After end, and saluted France in the best way she could.....avec deux doights!

kerouac Aug 16th, 2018 08:13 AM

I must be thick because I don't know what that means (deux doigts).

suec1 Aug 16th, 2018 08:54 AM

We did a port stop there, well actually twice - both times we rented a car - my favorite excursion was to see the Bayeaux tapestry combined with the D-Day beaches. We also drove to Giverney from there as well as Honfleur. If you don't want to rent a car, you may want to "splurge" and do a ship excursion or try to find a private tour thru you roll call. We tried to find a way to do Honfleur by public transportation but in the end, it seemed too difficult.

LancasterLad Aug 16th, 2018 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by kerouac (Post 16779123)
I must be thick because I don't know what that means (deux doigts).

'Two fingers'.....though I suppose un doigt would have given my wife the same sad pleasure.

You might have gathered she didn't exactly fall in love with our 4 years In Paris. But she rarely got angry.....revenge was always sweeter!

kerouac Aug 16th, 2018 11:48 PM

I still have never heard that expression.

wordsmith1 Aug 17th, 2018 04:08 AM

Thanks much for the info!!

bilboburgler Aug 17th, 2018 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by kerouac (Post 16779123)
I must be thick because I don't know what that means (deux doigts).

deux doigts is what Brits do when Americans "give the finger"
two countries separated by a common language

burta Aug 17th, 2018 10:49 AM

Not sure where you're cruising. Le Havre was the second to the last stop for us on a British Isle cruise (round trip Southhampton). We actually disembarked in Le Havre, rather than go back to Southhampton. We rented a car and went to Honfleur for a few days from which we took daytrips to Rouen and Bayeux. Then we drove to Paris, stopping at Andelys along the way. We have been to France many times (although not as many times as we would like!). There are many stops along the way that you might like to make if you have not been that way before.

PalenQ Aug 17th, 2018 01:52 PM

deux doigts is what Brits do when Americans "give the finger"
two countries separated by a common language>

Well we Yanks also use two fingers for saying f you - 2nd and fifth (little finger) or middle finger but 2 doigts is common here - Brits don't use 1 doigt - middle finger?

LancasterLad Aug 17th, 2018 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by PalenQ (Post 16779846)
deux doigts is what Brits do when Americans "give the finger"
two countries separated by a common language>

Well we Yanks also use two fingers for saying f you - 2nd and fifth (little finger) or middle finger but 2 doigts is common here - Brits don't use 1 doigt - middle finger?

Of course we do, all a matter of choice really.

bilboburgler Aug 18th, 2018 01:02 AM

Brits don't use one finger unless they have been contaminated by USA film industry, so basically everyone under 30 does. Culturally a Brit uses 2 fingers, palm towards the user as Churchill did originally (though he turned it around at some point depending on if they had a cigar between them) with the movement towards back towards user only coming from the hippy generation in the US. Our local lads do the forefinger across the throat as a matter of joyfull exuberence, thanks Hollywood!

My Iranian school chums "did the finger" using the thumb with slightly vulgar thinking behind it.

kerouac Aug 18th, 2018 03:52 AM

Keeping us off topic, I finally had to look this stuff up. The French definitely do not speak the same hand language.


LancasterLad Aug 19th, 2018 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by bilboburgler (Post 16780021)
Brits don't use one finger unless they have been contaminated by USA film industry, so basically everyone under 30 does. Culturally a Brit uses 2 fingers, palm towards the user as Churchill did originally (though he turned it around at some point depending on if they had a cigar between them) with the movement towards back towards user only coming from the hippy generation in the US. Our local lads do the forefinger across the throat as a matter of joyfull exuberence, thanks Hollywood!

LOL. That's probably the reason why I've always stuck to two fingers.

menachem Aug 19th, 2018 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by LancasterLad (Post 16779995)
Of course we do, all a matter of choice really.

By now, Brexit seems like such a blessing, seen from the continent. Wish it were march 2019 already.

LancasterLad Aug 19th, 2018 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 16780495)
By now, Brexit seems like such a blessing, seen from the continent. Wish it were march 2019 already.

Yes, the EU is such a contended Federal multi-state isn't it?

As if there isn't enough discontent in the EU. There's currently all the potential for Romania to erupt in internal violence due to a corrupt and inept Government.

It'll take the EU to have 27[?] countries to all agree on what to do about it, which'll never happen. In the meantime carnage could ensue.

It's enough to turn Jean-Claud Juncker to drink.....oops to late to stop that!

Sorry for going off-topic.

bilboburgler Aug 19th, 2018 04:27 AM

I'm still a "Remainer" but you have to admit that the non-entities who are Presidents of Europe seem a bit limited both in influence and competence and we do seem to have to wait for either the German chancellor or the French president to finish their day job before they can come and fit in a bit overtime sorting out Europe.

Have a great Sunday


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